What's the big deal? These guys wear berets too.
Posted on 10/19/2009 4:45:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking
When Charlton Heston held up a replica Revolutionary War musket, and said "From my cold, dead hands," at the NRA Convention in 2000, he was not the first to use those words in that context, but his use is certainly the most famous. It was a powerful speech that Heston gave, delivered with both the solemnity and the fire one would expect from one of the few actors capable of pulling off the role of Moses.
Much has changed since that speech, including the now much more politically correct NRA. Can anyone imagine the top of the NRA hierarchy now promising to fight to the death against any attempt to disarm the citizenry? How could they? With a mantra of "enforce the laws on the books" what happens when a law calling for confiscation of some type of firearm goes "on the books"? No--today's NRA is much too concerned with appearing "reasonable" to say anything so confrontational (although they're not averse to making a buck from it).
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
AM, could you please remove “Examiner Bio” from the title. Cut and paste glitch. Thanks.
NRA = Not Really American. The NRA has said time and tiem again that they are for the “hunting purposes of firearms”.
I dont own a gun but listening to Heston and watching this Obamanation sweeping the country I have to get myself one.
Been thinking about a 20 gauge shotgun and a rifle of sometype. The 20 gauge so my wife can fire it easily.
I refuse to idly sit back and watch the destruction of the Constitution.
So am I.
“You can read the full article and the author gets paid by page views.”
Does he have a prominent link to FR on his BLOG??
Nope. But we’re better off since he takes the time to write what he does. Seeing he gets a little ad revenue (I have no idea what they get paid per hit) seems a small price to pay.
And he’s not using content we generated, we’re using his.
Nelson T. “Pete” Shields, president of Handgun Control, Inc.: The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.
Everyone note how they plan to incrementally disarm the law-abiding.
Good article
“And he’s not using content we generated, we’re using his.”
We’re not “using” sh*%...
You’re holding out his tin cup for him while we try to raise enough money here to keep the lights on.
No, thanks.
The leftist media and politicians are scared to death of the NRA. Those lawsuits cost the NRA millions. There have been a half dozen lawsuits based on Heller with the Second Amendment Foundation.
Anyone remember Morton Grove? There is no longer a gun ban in that city because of the NRA.
Remember the Katrina victims? The NRA and the SAF sued.
goa = AWOL The goa still hasn’t lifted a finger for any progun legislation or lawsuits on their own.
So do it already. Time's a-wasting.
FR isn’t funded by clicks, it’s funded by US! If some Freeper has already contributed this quarter, what’s the big deal if they also click on over to this guy’s page so he can get something for what he did. It doesn’t actually cost them anything. You don’t want to read the whole article, don’t click. Sheesh.
Yes, the NRA has been doing better of late, probably because of criticism like this. There’s still a lot of their past decisions that are awfully hard to accept, but I do give credit where due.
Don’t pawn off BLOGS as News/Activism and then beg for hits.
Post the article in the proper forum and let it stand on its own.
Sheesh....
Please provide the direct quote, the source and the venue (magazine, paper, official statement), please. I’d be very interested to see proof of this statement made by the NRA time and time again.
Fair enough. And BTW I’m not “begging for hits”. It’s information I thought had value and deserved wider exposure, which is why I posted it here. Again, because I thought it had value, I thought it would be fair for people to read the article at the author’s site, so he can be compensated and so it will be worthwhile to him to continue to post commentary I find worthwhile.
Now you may have a point about it being opinion as opposed to news, especially WRT this particular article, so posting in Blogs might make sense. I’m just in the habit of posting in News/Activism, so I tend to hit that button first (and you’ll have to admit, “Activism” is relevant to the article).
Nice article - thanks for posting. Hard to believe this came from Seattle!
I made the mistake of thinking it was “the right thing to do” to join this organization about a year ago. What an education. I get tons of junk mail, each piece wanting my money, but far worse I get calls every few weeks at my unregistered number at home.
Each time, I listen to the guy start in on his rant about some new legislation and how Mr. LaPierre needs my help, i.e. $, to combat this latest threat to our freedoms. It’s a different legislative threat each time, a brand new hole in the dike that must be plugged with an expensive new finger each time. What a waste of time, money and effort. It’s not the proper strategy to employ against a determined oppressor. I usually just hang up now after increasingly shorter time spans.
I’ve been meaning to write a letter to this joker and ask, in exchange for any further support from me, if he would be so kind as to issue a line-in-the-sand statement on our behalf to the government, outlining the final-straw legislative attempt it would take for him to encourage his membership to exercise the original purpose of the Second Amendment.
I doubt he would.
Thanks. It’s actually St. Louis, although there’s a guy in Seattle that writes about gun rights issues for Examiner.com as well.
Still lots of 20-gauge. Lots of trouble and pretty expensive to find any caliber of rifle or handgun ammo I actually shoot.
Likewise, reloading supplies.
Me too.
The NRA might misidentify the quarry.
;-)
“Don’t pawn off BLOGS as News/Activism and then beg for hits.
Post the article in the proper forum and let it stand on its own.
Sheesh....”
Is that a rule on FR, or are you just bossy? Lighten up. Seems so trivial.
BTW, like your screen name.
--too many of the ignorant out there don't seem to realize that the NRA has to deal with the real world of Washington, DC (and the California and New York state legislatures,either of which could have the entire budget of the NRA expended on them with little results), not some fantasy land where sturdy yoemen armed with 03A3's, SMLE's and Moisin-Nagants stop UN-sponsored Bulgaro-Peruvian tank columns advancing toward the Mississippi River--
BS. Back that up with a source or reference, or be know to all here as a liar.
Let me guess, your a GOA member.
“or be know to all here as a liar.”
Wow, you’re such an authroity. Second, you’re not that important. Go do your own research.
I politely requested supporting evidence for your claim in post 16. Be a good Freeper and please supply proof.
From his bio:
A former paratrooper, Kurt Hofmann was paralyzed in a car accident in 2002. The helplessness inherent to confinement to a wheelchair prompted him to explore armed self-defense, only to discover that Illinois denies that right, inspiring him to become active in gun rights advocacy. He writes a gun rights blog, called Armed and Safe.
“Be a good Freeper and please supply proof.”
Why don’t you drama queens go search google for “NRA hunting purposes” and have a good time, and try to keep up with the rest of society. Next thing you know you’ll be wanting us to explain what a liberal is.
Let's not forget NRA's support for concealed-carry, and it's role in the greatly-increased number of states that have "shall-issue" CCW.
I’ll give you a perfect example of how effective the NRA is. Earlier this year there was a bill that was going to be put forth to give DC statehood. An Amendment was going to be attached to it to gut DC’s idiotic gun laws. The Bill never made it to the house floor because it was let known that if you voted against that amendment it would affect your NRA rating. This ensured that the bill never made it to the floor and was killed in committee.
Basically, the NRA saved us from the unconstitutionality of DC getting full representation in the Congress. Name another 2nd amendment organization that has that clout?
Please don't expect me to source that, go do your own research. If you can't prove me wrong, then based on your own rules, we all should take it as fact.
“Let’s not forget NRA’s support for concealed-carry”
The NRA was completely absent here in Colorado when we were fighting for our CCW. Which States are you referring to that the NRA gave CCW support?
NRA supported the McCarthy/Dingell bill, now known as NICS. That, alone, dooms the NRA in my book. The NRA stomped on personal rights.
The NRA went further and wrote and backed HR2640 to restrict veterans with any mental problems coming back from the war to also be denied firearms purchasing rights via the NICS system.
The NRA pushed for Project Exile in cooperation with the Brady Bunch. Project Exile started in Richmond, Virginia, in 1997, and moved prosecution of gun offenses to federal court rather than in state court where they belong. The NRA stomped on State’s rights.
Charlton Heston, the NRA’s poster boy, was the original pusher of the 1968 Gun Control Act. Yep, before he joined forces with the NRA he was a major pusher against gun ownership. So, before you get all teary eyed and turned on by seeing his “From my cold dead hands” photo, just remember, he single handedly took many of your rights from your hands.
The NRA backed off Eric Holder and Sonia Sotomayor. The NRA got mouthy during the Obama campaign and gave hope they might actually grow a pair, but then they backed off completely on Obama anti-firearm nominees.
Let’s face it, the NRA NEEDS these liberals, because without them what would be scaring you into donating to the NRA?
The NRA was completely absent here in Colorado
when we were fighting for our CCW.
Which States are you referring to that the NRA gave CCW support?
Or you are repeating the talking points of the RMGOA. The Colorado Shooting Sports Association, state affiliate You might want to ask Tony Fabian, president of CSSA, what took place. Or ask Ken Chlouber, a Republican state senator from Leadville. I and hundreds of others signed a copyYou are extremely ignorant of the CCW fight in Colorado.
of the NRA lead the fight.
or Doug Lamborn, my Congressman or David Schultheis
of the bill at the Denver FoNRA
dinner for Ken Chlouber.
” state affiliate
of the NRA lead the fight.”
The CSSA stood tall but just because they are an NRA affiliate does not mean the NRA gets the credit. Weak, damned weak.
So, tell us, what EXACTLY did the NRA do for the CCW issue in Colorado? We know what the CSSA did, tell us what the NRA did to earn their money.
First, as the NRA state association, CSSA is the sanctioning body of all official NRA firearms matches in Colorado.NRA-ILA CHIEF CAUTIONS AGAINST INTERNET MISINFORMATIONAdditionally, CSSA is the chief state pro-gun lobbying force at the capitol. Since 1999, CSSA has been instrumental in defeating every anti-gun bill introduced at the General Assembly, and has worked to get pro-gun legislation like modifying the law pertaining to carrying firearms in your vehicle and pre-empting Denver’s “stop and confiscate” ordinance in 2000. CSSA and its members played a major role in finally passing meaningful uniform concealed handgun permit legislation in 2003, making Colorado the 33rd “shall-issue” state in the U.S.
Tony Fabian President, CSSA state affiliate of the NRA
Katrina victims got rusted clubs back.
Oh, one more thing I forgot to mention in my other post, HR2640 is the McCarthy/Dingell bill...
So why has the NRA made concessions at every step of the way? Why couldn’t they have just said “no” from the beginning? We could still be purchasing new full autos at this time.
What's the big deal? These guys wear berets too.
When did I make mention of the GOA?
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