Posted on 10/19/2009 1:37:18 PM PDT by cc2k
The special election to fill New York's vacant 23rd congressional seat is perhaps the earliest test of the GOP's chances to reclaim the House in 2010. Yet the GOP candidate, Dede Scozzafava, has struggled to line up Republican support, and has taken a pummeling from conservative groups that assert she's liberal. The Club for Growth and Eagle Forum, among others, support her opponent, Doug Hoffman, who's running on the Conservative Party ticket.
Add North Texas' Dick Armey to the list of conservative stars backing Hoffman. The former House Majority Leader has confirmed to the Hoffman campaign that he'll spend Thursday with them, said Rob Ryan, a Hoffman spokesman. "He is with us almost all day Thursday," Ryan told me. "There will be a bunch of different events." Armey's endorsement of Hoffman is personal and wasn't offered on behalf of FreedomWorks, the conservative foundation he chairs.
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Markos Moulitsas, founder of The Daily Kos has endorsed Scozzafava. Dede Scozzafava has also been endorsed by NYSUT, the largest labor union in New York, and an affiliate of the National Education Association.
Scozzafava also holds these positions:
Scozzafava has also run in past elections on the Working Families Party (a progressive party associated with ACORN) line on the ballot.
This lady isn’t a RINO, she is a big “R” libeRal democRat.
There are also 17 RINOs in the house who have donated funds to this LibeRal democRat's campaign. They include Boehner and Cantor. I don’t have a full list, but I will be looking for it. These RINOs should be targeted for elimination in the primaries next year.
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Keep this third party stuff up and obama will win in 2012
Keep nominating liberals and the Republican Party will be the third party.
Excuse me, but how the **** does voting for a Conservative Party over a pro-gay, pro-abortion, socialist help Obama win in 2012?
Keep running liberals as Republicans and the same will happen.
Good for Dick Armey.
You are clueless. If Hoffman wins, he will caucus with the Republicans.
This is a race the GOP has done everything to lose.
Heck, who is Dick Armey against all the distinguished leftists she has backing her?
The Bushbot Republiczombies will not be pleased that some people are daring to support the conservative instead of the Republican (note that Markos Moulisas pointed out that the RNC-backed candidate is even more liberal than the Dem candidate!)
Ever hear of a guy named Ross Perot?
There is no doubt that she is liberal, she is more to the left than lots of dimwits.
Go Dick Armey. He seems to actually care about freedom and liberty. I’ve been getting his emails for a while. I don’t know how I got on his list but he has been a tireless supporter of freedom.
I’m glad to see that he’s a conservative, not just an R.
A vote for Dede Scozzafava will be a vote for Obama backing, regardless of party affiliation. Just how does that defeat Obama's agenda?
Yup! I hear this chicken little crap all the time but let me enlighten you a bit. There are a whole heck of a lot more "Conservatives" than there are either Republicans or Demoncraps. A third party known at the "Conservative Party" will end up blowing the doors off any other candidate out there; including baraq O bamah. Assuming of course he doesn't trump up some bogus excuse to declare martial law and do away with free elections altogether.
JMHO
On a national level, I agree. But in New York I am not so sure. It may be the smart strategy.
I have great respect for Dick Armey.
This is the right thing right now.
We have to light some firecrackers up the RNC’s butt.
What difference does it make if all we get in Obama’s place is a me-too Republican clone of him?
**Keep nominating liberals and the Republican Party will be the third party.**
Another McCain or the likes of Graham, Collins or SNOWE,
and I won’t be bothering to show up... GOP gonna make their bed with LIBSCUM.. they’re ON THEIR OWN.
Ever hear of a guy named Bob Dole? Or John McCain?
RINO-ism won't win in 2012.
You do mean to say “Good for the Liberals”, don’t you.
It is a garaunteed win for the the DEmocrats and liberals with this bs
The only way for the GOP to re-gain power on any level is to dump the leftist trash like that.
Now this certainly qualifies as an interesting turn of events. ;^)
A conservative cannot win up there, unfortunately RINO’s are necessary in local elections, NEVER AGAIN for national office.
Hoffman is a Republican running on the Conservative Party line.
Scuzzobama is a liberal democrat who was given the GOP line by ignorant party bosses.
This has nothing to do with Obama, other than the fact Dede will vote for his agenda.
Dick > Newt
Dem will get the seat
The Republican party may have inadvertently provided the real spark for a group that will replace it.
If so, most excellent!
Conservative party, watch out what slugs you allow in from the cold. Pretty soon you could have the same GOP under a different name.
RINOs need not apply. And more importantly, need not be taken into the new party.
If Joe Lieberman can win as an independent, why not Doug Hoffman as an independent?
**RINO-ism won’t win in 2012.**
GOP (Grandly Odd Progressives) may just as well nominate Olympia Snow for 12 so we can start planning the Funeral for the GOP right now.
According to the "leaders" of the GOP, a conservative "can't win" most anywhere.
It's a lie.
There are few places in America where in a three-way plurality race between two liberals and one conservative that the conservative can't win.
This race is helping to illustrate this fact very nicely.
You know what, I think you’ve touched on an important topic.
Look, you may be right. On the other hand, how is that Republican party working out for you?
If the RP would show that it had gotten religion, I’d support it. It hasn’t. It won’t. It’s dangerously close to complete irrelevance.
If I wanted to vote for a Democrat, I’d be a Democrat. I’m done voting for Democrats in the Republican party, and not a single one of them will EVER get another vote from me.
The leadership of the party, be it in Washington, D.C, the state capitals, or even the local parties, has just imploded in too many places.
Many of these people couldn’t tell you what a Conservative was if their life depended on it.
I’ll give you an example.
We’re in the fight of our live trying to block another massive government takeover of the private economy, namely health care. So what does Steele do? Why he endorses Mitt Romney to be the new voice of the party. This the same Mitt Romney that not only pushed through Romneycare in his home state, but wants to take it national.
How off key is that? I can hear the Conservative chorus, but someone is singing flat. That my friends is the head of the RNC, Michael Steele. He’s tone deaf. He’s just one of many Republican leaders who are.
They are unfit to lead any party that I wish to be a part of.
Keep supporting the shit the RNC keeps throwing at the wall and you won't be able to tell the difference anyway.
If Hoffman pulls this out or not the GOP will get the same message : The GOP is too conservative.
If Bill Owens wins, the GOP is too conservative.
If Bill Owens wins and ScuzzyLady is third, the GOP is too conservative.
The press releases are probably already written.
>> Keep this third party stuff up and obama will win in 2012 <<
We NEED the 3rd party candidate on this election because it could be seen as a litmus test and wake up call to the RINOs in the RNC to run some real conservatives.
If Hoffman wins by a wide margin it would WAKE up the RNC.
One of the few things New York does right is that the thriving third parties can run their own candidates or endorse the major party ones, allowing the voter to indicate that even if he supports the Republican candidate, for example, he is doing it through the Conservative line on the ballot. Or, if the GOP runs a liberal, they can run their own candidate.
When the NY GOP ran Pierre Rinfret in 1990, Conservative Party candidate Herb London came VERY close to beating Rinfret for second place, which would have meant that the Conservative Party would have replaced the Republican Party in having "Major Party" status in New York State. Anyone who doesn't think that that would have caught some attention is not playing with a full deck!
If the idiotic Right to Life party had supported the Pro-Life London instead of running their own candidate, Louis P. Wein, or if a quaerter of the voters for Wein had gone for London, London would have made it into second spot and furthered their agenda. If that had happened, the Conservative Party would have been moved up to the second line on the next ballot, they would have been able to have election commissioners in each county, etc.
So the problem wasn't a "third party" but a "fourth party." The lesson is to run your own candidate when the more major candidate doesn't support your views, but when he does, then endorse him.
Well, I’ll donate to any guy who can prove that point.
If they’re close enough, I’ll walk the sidewalks to help out.
Scuzzy doesn’t belong in the GOP, period. The GOP is better off with the Democrat winning this seat than her.
Go Hoffman.
Splits the “Conservative” vote in the general election.
The way to win is take the RINO out in the primary.
If the local party bosses do not allow a contested primary then work to change the local party bosses.
I’m in NC. Obama won NC by less than 25,000 votes. Barr got 25,000 votes in the general election.
After being beaten up by voting for RINOs all these years, I’m taken aback by those still foisting the “hold-my-nose-and-vote” strategy. There is change afoot and I don’t mean Baracky change. Tea Party and 912 groups are out there organizing by zip and precinct to make sure Conservative candidates are fielded and funded.
Democrat vs leftist
I couldn’t believe that I heard one of the talking heads on the Sunday morning talk shows mutter that Hoffman is closer on the issues to the person in office than Scozzafava?
That said, conservatives need to turn out in large numbers in the primaries for conservative candidates. There is a better chance of winning elections that way than going the third party route. Illinois Rinos are pushing Dillard for governor, yet there are some good solid conservatives also running.....
Seat held by GOP since 1871
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Wegonkikyow*ss, Newt!
Didn’t the NYGOP learn anything from Bloomberg?
Ever here of “Read my lips, no new taxes” and another “old guy” as the head of the republican ticket?
Straw-man arguments.
“....That said, conservatives need to turn out in large numbers in the primaries for conservative candidates. There is a better chance of winning elections that way than going the third party route. Illinois Rinos are pushing Dillard for governor, yet there are some good solid conservatives also running.....”
You said it brother - see my post # 39.
I make my fight in the primaries.
The RNC, NRSC, and NRCC deserve good kicks in the backs.
You know Gondring. Tha multi-party election system might be the ONLY thing I like about New York.
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