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Forrester claims the OS is dead (Say goodbye to Windows XP)
Fudzilla ^ | 10/19/2009

Posted on 10/19/2009 11:45:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

XP's long reign over the hearts and minds of corporates will end on October 22 when Windows 7 is launched, predicts analysts Forester.

Soothsayers in Forester's tarot reading division have pulled the Death card for Windows XP on the corporate desktop. Forrester’s Benjamin Gray said that businesses needed refresh aging IT infrastructure. There was also a predicted end to XP support and getting copies of the operating system was becoming trickier.

Windows 7 had an XP mode which means that most of the software that businesses have will run on the new operating system. This will improve the OS's chance of getting adopted early. He predicts that within 18 months of Window's 7's release, or with the release of the first Windows 7 service pack, will crumble.

Forrester said that the top five Windows 7 features that IT professionals need to prepare for are DirectAccess, which promises to simplify connectivity for Mobile users, BranchCache, which promises to improve branch access networking, BitLocker and BitLocker To Go, which promise to secure the data on hard drives and removable USB thumb drives, AppLocker, which promises to deliver more granular control of user applications and federated search, which promises to simplify access to data across local and remote resources.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computer; microsoft; vista; windows7; windowsxp; xp
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TITLE : Microsoft's Windows 7 Means End of XP for Business, Says Report
1 posted on 10/19/2009 11:45:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Hm. Hideously bad writing...

"Forrester’s Benjamin Gray said that businesses needed refresh aging IT infrastructure."

"He predicts that within 18 months of Window's 7's release, or with the release of the first Windows 7 service pack, will crumble."

Perhaps it's based on Reverse Polish grammar....

2 posted on 10/19/2009 11:47:57 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SeekAndFind

Not in this household.


3 posted on 10/19/2009 11:48:07 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

I don’t know if you have a choice on the matter a few years from now. Some friends of mine used to say that they’ll continue using Windows 95 for as long as it takes. Well guess what ? A few years later, they switched to XP.

Here’s what the Forrester report says :


Once Windows 7 enters general release, the ability of IT shops to deploy Windows XP will decline. Within 18 months of the release, or with the release of the first Windows 7 service pack, “the OEM licenses bundled with every PC will no longer carry downgrade rights to Windows XP.” This means, essentially, that deploying XP within an enterprise or SMB (small and midsize business) will require either falling back on unused Windows XP volume licenses or purchasing volume license copies of XP along with new PCs. That adds an extra step to the procurement process that IT administrators may be unwilling to take.

Support for Windows XP is also ending, which further complicates matters for any IT shop wanting to hold onto the older operating system. Extended support for Windows XP Service Packs 2 and 3 will end in April 2014, with no updates or patches offered after that date.


4 posted on 10/19/2009 11:50:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hope not as XP is much better that the present one.
5 posted on 10/19/2009 11:50:30 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Royal 100 Club is Acting the Same as the Roman Senate When the Republic Collapsed)
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To: Paladin2

I just bought a new Dell mini notebook for my wife. It came with XP SP3. I have no intention of upgrading my home systems (two laptops with the above, and one old Dell tower with Windows 2000). When it works, don’t mess with it...


6 posted on 10/19/2009 11:51:01 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: Paladin2

Not in our’s either. All four stay with the older, safer OS.


7 posted on 10/19/2009 11:52:15 AM PDT by benewton
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To: SeekAndFind

So, so you think the new OS will redeem them? A large swathe of the federal government computers and systems still run on XP, and thus provides a captive market for Microsoft.


8 posted on 10/19/2009 11:53:12 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: bcsco

I have a Delol mini too - primarily for travel for work. I bought it for the XP - my regular laptop has Vista and it sucks big time.


9 posted on 10/19/2009 11:53:30 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: r9etb
Incredibly bad writing.

Writer knows nothing about Tarot, just for starters. The trump "Death" is not a death card. Neither is the "Lightning-Struck Tower". You want a death card, the nine or ten of Swords will do the job.

The latter, btw, is not a card of violent death.

10 posted on 10/19/2009 11:53:57 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s dead, Jim.....................


11 posted on 10/19/2009 11:55:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: Paladin2

There isn’t any reason to upgrade an existing system to Windows 7 from XP, but there’s no reason to avoid it on a new computer.

I’m running the Release Candidate version of 7 on two machines, including a 4 year old laptop that wouldn’t run Vista. It works very well on both machines and seems as fast as XP on the old laptop. On a modern, dual core machine it’s very fast and has a lot of features that just aren’t on XP. The wireless networking is dramatically better than XP, especially when dealing with interference and intermittent signals.


12 posted on 10/19/2009 11:55:21 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: YOUGOTIT

Windows 98SE is better than Vista.


13 posted on 10/19/2009 11:58:26 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I still have machines on Win95, though most of the more frequently used ones have been switched to W2k. I used to build a computer a year, but my kids are through college now and have their own laptops (for which I don’t do much h/w support). One kid has an Apple and the other two WinXP. I have reloaded XP due to hard drive crashes and viral infections. The apps, not the o/s get the real work done.


14 posted on 10/19/2009 11:58:37 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Is that dead hand giving a gang sign?

Redmond Gangsta Disciples?


15 posted on 10/19/2009 11:59:31 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: mom4melody

I bought it for my wife who’s managing a much larger store now, and needs the PC support. We’ve only had it a week. She loves it so far. Microsoft may find fertile ground in business with Windows 7, but I question just how many private PCs will be upgraded, unless they are running Vista, and the owner is willing to lay out the cash.


16 posted on 10/19/2009 11:59:46 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Og goody. Another Microsoft ‘upgrade’. Since Vista went so well, I am sure this will just as surely be The Thing of the future


17 posted on 10/19/2009 12:00:08 PM PDT by the long march
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To: AnAmericanMother

i think you’ve been reading a bit too much into the article...and the tarot cards


18 posted on 10/19/2009 12:00:35 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: SeekAndFind

XP is no longer supported at my very large intracately linked software developer employer (ahem.)

Windows 7 is a dream though. I just installed it and love it. So does eveyone else I know of in this huge borg.


19 posted on 10/19/2009 12:00:46 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (President Obama got the Nobel Prize and my ass is still sitting in Afghanistan. Its not fair. - G.I.)
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To: MediaMole

they also rewrote the event logging for Win7.

check out eventvwr in a shell window.


20 posted on 10/19/2009 12:01:24 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: SeekAndFind

“He predicts that within 18 months of Window’s 7’s release,... , will crumble. “

eWeek hires illiterates who cannot form proper sentences?


21 posted on 10/19/2009 12:02:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: OneWingedShark
"Windows 98SE is better than Vista."

Why is that PCs got slower and slower from 1996 until now?

With a new PC with 4GB memory, I finally have a computer that operates faster than what I used in 1996. Win 7 is great. New computer is snappy. I'm more productive than I've been in a decade.

22 posted on 10/19/2009 12:02:42 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (President Obama got the Nobel Prize and my ass is still sitting in Afghanistan. Its not fair. - G.I.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A friend of mine has been reading up on Windows 7 informed me the kernel is a combination of Vista and XP.


23 posted on 10/19/2009 12:03:09 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
According to Kim Komando, only two of the versions of Windows 7 have the XP mode.

I guess that means there are multiple versions to nickel and dime you to death, as is the MS modus operandi.

24 posted on 10/19/2009 12:04:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: rahbert
LOL! I never noticed that before!

That particular set of cards was drawn back in the early 1900s by Pamela Colman Smith, so if it's a gang sign it's entirely accidental (but I'm sure the readers would say it's Universal Memory or some such nonsense).

25 posted on 10/19/2009 12:05:04 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: ari-freedom
Nope, just backing up my point that the writer is displaying his complete ignorance.

I gave up reading cards many years ago - a relic of my misspent hippie youth.

26 posted on 10/19/2009 12:05:55 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: bcsco

Both my desktop and laptop run XP, but I bought Windows 7 during the July window when the disks were running $40.

My laptop, an aging Dell Inspiron, is suffering from the weight of XP patch after patch after patch. My desktop, also into the crotchety stage of life, will need replacing first. Installing 7 on my laptop will help me through the learning curve, especially since I don’t use it as often as my desktop.


27 posted on 10/19/2009 12:06:08 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: r9etb
Hideously bad writing...

I figured it out. He predicts IT make for get XP when giving at Windows with a Service Pack for 2010 before shifting doorknob kimono corn syrup regret simple aluminum.

28 posted on 10/19/2009 12:06:44 PM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: r9etb

Uh-oh. I’m running Windows 2000 in my garage PC. Fedora up!


29 posted on 10/19/2009 12:07:11 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I’ve been running a pre-release windows 7 for over a month now. So far no problems at all, none. It’s better then XP and WAY better then Vista.

Windows users should not be afraid to make the switch.


30 posted on 10/19/2009 12:08:19 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Sloth

Ahhh, flazzicle.


31 posted on 10/19/2009 12:08:51 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Bullish

Will Windows 7 run legacy applications like Microsoft Office 2000?


32 posted on 10/19/2009 12:12:48 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: YOUGOTIT
The rumor is Windows 7 is way better than Vista (they screwed up with Vista so, they came out with a new OS). Kind of the same thing they did with Windows 98 and 98SE.

I'm not in a rush to switch, though. My old beater machine is still running so why blow the $$$?

I'm just glad I didn't get Vista on my machine.

33 posted on 10/19/2009 12:14:13 PM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are Point-of-Sale systems still running on Windows 2000. Win XP will see many years of service after Win 7 is released. A few months ago, it was still retailing at the same price as Vista Ultimate.


34 posted on 10/19/2009 12:14:23 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Kieri
My laptop, an aging Dell Inspiron, is suffering from the weight of XP patch after patch after patch.

I read that loud and clear. I've finally turned off automatic update, and I've often wondered whether I'd be better off rolling back to my SP3 install without all the subsequent updates.

35 posted on 10/19/2009 12:14:42 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: Bullish
Same here, 7 is going to reopen a lot of eyes, Vista will die off in a year as well as XP.

I have 7 on a system here, Vista on a few others, and XP on one. The 7 is faster, runs almost all of the XP, software and all the games(so far), without a hitch.

VISTA, I have to have a shaman come in any time I want to load something new on it, in the hopes of a good install.

36 posted on 10/19/2009 12:16:37 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: bcsco

Theres no reason why it shouldn’t.


37 posted on 10/19/2009 12:18:56 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: rahbert
Theres no reason why it shouldn’t.

I was just curious. I read upthread that Windows 7 is built on XP and Vista kernels. So, I wondered whether there were Vista components that would interfere with legacy software.

38 posted on 10/19/2009 12:23:12 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: bcsco
I hope this helps answering your question.... Link
39 posted on 10/19/2009 12:23:28 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm due for a new puter. I'll ask our large company IT guys. They usually don't approve any new technology for about 2 years.
40 posted on 10/19/2009 12:26:07 PM PDT by McGruff (Go rogue baby, go rogue!)
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To: Bullish
Well I hope 7 does turn out to be a great OS. IMO what is killing Microsoft is this mentality that they are going to force the consumer to use their product. I'm sorry to see they are still using this proven failed tactic to deploy their new operating system. What it tells me is that they have no confidence in the new product selling itself. Microsoft started using this tactic back when they had the clash with Netscape. Instead of taking Netscape on with the idea of simply producing a better browser with IE they tried legal and any other means to stomp out Netscape. Microsoft quit innovating with the Netscape debacle and they have been behind the eight ball ever since.
41 posted on 10/19/2009 12:27:01 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: SeekAndFind

So long, XP
We hardly knew ye!

Sorry for being so merciless and cruel
in making fun of you
when you were released.

If only I had any idea what
Vista had held in store.....


42 posted on 10/19/2009 12:27:49 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll go whole hog on Windows 7, even on my older 32 bit laptop with a cheap sempron it simply oozes eficiently with a good deal of speed and efficiency;I had downloaded the iso Release candidates for both 32 and 64 bit systems. My 64 bit systems scream now and they are not even top of the line...just imagine what the gaming monster machines are going to do with this OS. 64 bit is now on the map!


43 posted on 10/19/2009 12:28:09 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Spirochete
There are still many systems running 95, 98, and Millennium. (well, maybe not millennium...)

Those OS's allowed direct hardware calls, where 2000, XP, etc.....don't.

For that matter, I know of many plants running one flavor of DOS or another. Same reason.

44 posted on 10/19/2009 12:28:36 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Bullish
In a nutshell: "In Windows 7, Microsoft will break from the Windows' norm by breaking previous API compatibility, offering new API frameworks as a native solution, and providing support for legacy frameworks (COM, ATL, .NET Framework, etc) through monolithic libraries designed to provide the functionality of all previous revisions of the modules in question. This extends/replaces the WinSxS philosophy, providing every single function, past and present, in fully comprehensive libraries. This should allow the majority of legacy applications to run perfectly, while still retaining native performance for applications compiled specifically with the Windows 7 platform in mind. It should also be possible for applications produced with previous versions of Visual Studio to be directly recompiled into native code using the new API frameworks."

Thanks!

45 posted on 10/19/2009 12:30:55 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: Paladin2

I have one laptop still running Windows 95 to be able to handle projects involving legacy applications, i.e. DOS. I get some projects for upgrading some earlier Modicon PLC’s, which can only be accessed via the old Modsoft (runs in a DOS environment). Even if I am upgrading the system, I still need to access the code in the old system so I can at least match the functionality.


46 posted on 10/19/2009 12:32:48 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: r9etb

Outsourced writer?


47 posted on 10/19/2009 12:33:09 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll go whole hog on Windows 7, even on my older 32 bit laptop with a cheap sempron it simply oozes eficiently with a good deal of speed and efficiency;I had downloaded the iso Release candidates for both 32 and 64 bit systems. My 64 bit systems scream now and they are not even top of the line...just imagine what the gaming monster machines are going to do with this OS. 64 bit is now on the map!


48 posted on 10/19/2009 12:34:44 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: SeekAndFind
promises to deliver more granular control

What the heck is granular control? Did they pack sugar in it?
49 posted on 10/19/2009 12:41:44 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind
Wow.

What horrible writing.

Why do people who can't write properly insist on publishing their messes?

50 posted on 10/19/2009 12:50:59 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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