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Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
sciencedaily.com ^ | 01/27/08 | sciencedaily

Posted on 10/19/2009 10:48:08 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

A new study finds that the development of bullous lung disease occurs in marijuana smokers approximately 20 years earlier than tobacco smokers.

A condition often caused by exposure to toxic chemicals or long-term exposure to tobacco smoke, bullous lung disease (also known as bullae) is a condition where air trapped in the lungs causes obstruction to breathing and eventual destruction of the lungs.

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1 posted on 10/19/2009 10:48:10 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

A government induced problem. If it were cheaper, you could make tea or brownies without worrying about efficiency.


2 posted on 10/19/2009 10:49:13 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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Patients who smoke marijuana inhale more and hold their breath four times longer than cigarette smokers. It is the breathing manoeuvres of marijuana smokers that serve to increase the concentration and pulmonary deposition of inhaled particulate matter – resulting in greater and more rapid lung destruction.

This paper is published in the January 2008 issue of Respirology.


3 posted on 10/19/2009 10:49:18 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

If it kills people faster, then there will be less people to insure....


4 posted on 10/19/2009 10:49:31 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: TornadoAlley3
Well I guess I'll take that as good news:) although it doesn't fit with today's news agenda.
5 posted on 10/19/2009 10:50:58 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: TornadoAlley3

This can’t be true. All the FReeper potheads have told be that pot is good for you.


6 posted on 10/19/2009 10:51:08 AM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: TornadoAlley3
Patients who smoke marijuana inhale more and hold their breath four times longer than cigarette smokers.

If it was legalized cheaper, users would not be so apt to "hold it in" in order to get more bang for your buck.

7 posted on 10/19/2009 10:51:27 AM PDT by Fast Ed97 (Is it bad when you start to miss the Clinton years?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Good thing Barry isn`t going to enforce drug laws anymore/sarc off

http://s399.photobucket.com/albums/pp77/coiledspring/?action=view&current=obama_youth_04.jpg


8 posted on 10/19/2009 10:51:38 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: TornadoAlley3
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers

I got the muchies now.....and cotton mouth, WTF?

9 posted on 10/19/2009 10:52:30 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: TornadoAlley3

So it’s intrusive to tax fast food because too many folks are fat but it is OK to condemn folks for using MJ because it destroys their lungs?


10 posted on 10/19/2009 10:53:28 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: Fast Ed97

Yes, and if it were cheaper and legal I bet less people would us it!


11 posted on 10/19/2009 10:54:21 AM PDT by NeilGus
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To: TornadoAlley3

Dope smoke, unlike cigarettes, is generally not filtered.


12 posted on 10/19/2009 10:55:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I'm wondering how they separated the pot induced damage from the tobacco induced damage, since every pothead I've ever know was also a cigarette smoker.
13 posted on 10/19/2009 10:55:21 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

It might explain the shortage of older people at the Libertarian Party conventions.


14 posted on 10/19/2009 10:55:50 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

It also has to do with growing up.


15 posted on 10/19/2009 10:57:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Is it really "news" to report that inhaling burning material - ANY burning material - is bad for the lungs?
16 posted on 10/19/2009 10:58:13 AM PDT by gdani (I just want to be left on this block of ice...)
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To: All

I see lawsuits....Where the gov made it legal without informing folks of the risk....


17 posted on 10/19/2009 10:58:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Puppage

The most popular word amongst potheads is....

‘ere


18 posted on 10/19/2009 10:59:42 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: TornadoAlley3

A government study to be sure. The last thing I read concerning pot and cancer was from a medical journal that stated there were no confirmed cases of cancer caused by pot alone in the U.S. That was about 2 years ago. Pot smokers who also smoke tobacco are another story though.

The assumptions that the smoke is held in the lungs up to 4 times longer is from data in the 60’s and 70’s when pot was much less stong than it is today. Most pot smokers don’t hold it in their lungs that long anymore since pot is a lot stronger, no need to hold it in that long.

Yes, I know quite a bit about it, a dear friend who has M.S. smokes it all the time, and I did enough of it in my heyday.


19 posted on 10/19/2009 10:59:59 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: TornadoAlley3
Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows
Science Daily ^ | 4/17/07 | American Association for Cancer Research

Posted on 04/18/2007 4:20:10 PM EDT by Teflonic

The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.

They say this is the first set of experiments to show that the compound, Delta-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), inhibits EGF-induced growth and migration in epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) expressing non-small cell lung cancer cell lines. Lung cancers that over-express EGFR are usually highly aggressive and resistant to chemotherapy.

THC that targets cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2 is similar in function to endocannabinoids, which are cannabinoids that are naturally produced in the body and activate these receptors. The researchers suggest that THC or other designer agents that activate these receptors might be used in a targeted fashion to treat lung cancer.

"The beauty of this study is that we are showing that a substance of abuse, if used prudently, may offer a new road to therapy against lung cancer," said Anju Preet, Ph.D., a researcher in the Division of Experimental Medicine.

Acting through cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2, endocannabinoids (as well as THC) are thought to play a role in variety of biological functions, including pain and anxiety control, and inflammation. Although a medical derivative of THC, known as Marinol, has been approved for use as an appetite stimulant for cancer patients, and a small number of U.S. states allow use of medical marijuana to treat the same side effect, few studies have shown that THC might have anti-tumor activity, Preet says. The only clinical trial testing THC as a treatment against cancer growth was a recently completed British pilot study in human glioblastoma.

In the present study, the researchers first demonstrated that two different lung cancer cell lines as well as patient lung tumor samples express CB1 and CB2, and that non-toxic doses of THC inhibited growth and spread in the cell lines. "When the cells are pretreated with THC, they have less EGFR stimulated invasion as measured by various in-vitro assays," Preet said.

Then, for three weeks, researchers injected standard doses of THC into mice that had been implanted with human lung cancer cells, and found that tumors were reduced in size and weight by about 50 percent in treated animals compared to a control group. There was also about a 60 percent reduction in cancer lesions on the lungs in these mice as well as a significant reduction in protein markers associated with cancer progression, Preet says.

Although the researchers do not know why THC inhibits tumor growth, they say the substance could be activating molecules that arrest the cell cycle. They speculate that THC may also interfere with angiogenesis and vascularization, which promotes cancer growth.

Preet says much work is needed to clarify the pathway by which THC functions, and cautions that some animal studies have shown that THC can stimulate some cancers. "THC offers some promise, but we have a long way to go before we know what its potential is," she said.

Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by American Association for Cancer Research.

20 posted on 10/19/2009 11:00:27 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: HospiceNurse
This can’t be true. All the FReeper potheads have told be that pot is good for you.

No, we're not claiming that it is as beneficial as mother's milk may be, but we do have a God-given right to pursue happiness...& we intend on doing so regardless of what the law says.

21 posted on 10/19/2009 11:00:33 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The drug warriors would love it if pot was worse than tobacco. Unfortunately for them, it isn’t.


22 posted on 10/19/2009 11:00:37 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: marstegreg

Maybe we can get all Obama voters to smoke lots of pot. I would like it if - I say give em as much as they can smoke. Hope & Change. Let ACORN hand out bales of dope to dopes.


23 posted on 10/19/2009 11:01:29 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Libertarians by an large are okay but dope smokers are loons.


24 posted on 10/19/2009 11:02:49 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: The_Victor

Very interesting point, that I would have to agree with.


25 posted on 10/19/2009 11:03:08 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Interesting collection of studies on the linked webpage showing the research is all over the place. I don’t think a lot of the research can be believed one way or the other because so many people are still “in the closet” and real long term data is difficult to collect given the situation that people don’t want to incriminate themselves.


26 posted on 10/19/2009 11:03:48 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Teflonic; Frenchtown Dan

Oops, I forgot to ping Teflonic about quoting his post.


27 posted on 10/19/2009 11:03:58 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: ChrisInAR

Pursuing a God-given right to be an idiot.

Go for it dude & dudettes!


28 posted on 10/19/2009 11:04:21 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: The_Victor

really

most folks I knew who were smack pot heads were never tobacco smokers.


29 posted on 10/19/2009 11:04:52 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I used to hear that a Marijuana cigarette was the equivalent of smoking a pack of cigarettes, and the pot smokers called it bunk. Regardless of who was right, pot should be safer, maybe put in a pill form that can be swallowed, put in tea or coffee, snorted up the nose, chewed like gum, applied as a skin patch or inserted as a suppository. This is post-America, where the dangers of pot need not prevent people from enjoying their favorite pastime.


30 posted on 10/19/2009 11:05:33 AM PDT by pallis
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To: mysterio
The drug warriors would love it if pot was worse than tobacco. Unfortunately for them, it isn’t.

Weighing in with an obligatory mention of alcohol. The "grown-up" drug of choice.

31 posted on 10/19/2009 11:05:38 AM PDT by gdani (I just want to be left on this block of ice...)
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To: The_Victor

I know what you mean. I was a tobacco addict for 20 years, & the quitting process was4 & 1/2 months of pure hell. But when I go w/o smoking weed, it doesn’t bother me one bit. It seems to me that the WRONG drug has been made illegal in this case.


32 posted on 10/19/2009 11:05:44 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

LOL...


33 posted on 10/19/2009 11:06:10 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: marstegreg
If it kills people faster, then there will be less people to insure....

Unfortunately they will demand everyone else pay for their healthcare resulting from their own poor life decisions.

34 posted on 10/19/2009 11:07:33 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

It depends on the grade of dope one smokes, a couple of good hits of high grade and your in orbit. The bottom line is, don’t overdo it. If people had limited themselves to a half pack of cigs per day the whole tobacco holocaust would not have happened and we wouldn’t have these inane stupid smoking laws we have now.


35 posted on 10/19/2009 11:07:43 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Obamanos!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Paving the way for massive taxation when they legalize it. Can’t let someone get out from under the tax man.


36 posted on 10/19/2009 11:08:00 AM PDT by calex59
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To: TornadoAlley3

No sympathy here for the potheads.


37 posted on 10/19/2009 11:08:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: manc
most folks I knew who were smack pot heads were never tobacco smokers.

In order for the sturdy to have any validity the researchers would have to find exclusive users of each product. They must exist, but I was just thinking back on everyone I've ever known who smoked weed, and they all smoked cigarettes. Just my own experience.

38 posted on 10/19/2009 11:09:17 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: The_Victor
I'm wondering how they separated the pot induced damage from the tobacco induced damage, since every pothead I've ever know was also a cigarette smoker.

I primarily used tobacco in it's smokeless form (Copenhagen), but I did smoke cigarettes also regularly for 27 years. During that time, I frequently had sinus infections, congestion, and a persistent cough. I quit all tobacco almost 3 years ago and have been almost completely free of those symptoms.

I'll leave to the reader's imagination to figure out the relevance of my comments to this topic.

39 posted on 10/19/2009 11:09:40 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: pallis

Get a vaporizer.


40 posted on 10/19/2009 11:09:58 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Frantzie
Can't be leftists smoking pot because none of them are happy.

Here's a real scientific study conducted with hundreds of patients:

Study: Pot users happier
November 17, 2005

A new study conducted by researchers at the University at Albany, State University of New York concludes that marijuana users are less depressed.

In what was the largest-ever study of marijuana and depression, daily or weekly marijuana users had fewer symptoms of depression than non-users. Marijuana users were also more likely to report positive moods and fewer somatic complaints such as sleeplessness.

Not only does marijuana not cause depression, it looks like it may actually alleviate it,” said Mitch Earleywine, co-author of the new study and associate professor of psychology at the University at Albany.


41 posted on 10/19/2009 11:10:16 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: manc
smack pot head

Smack pot heads? As in heroin? What is a smack pot heat?

42 posted on 10/19/2009 11:10:24 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: bmwcyle
"A study finds..."?

What study? Performed by whom? Paid for by whom?

Who were the subjects and how were they assembled? What were the double-blind controls employed (if any)?

Our government has a long and undisputed history of creating "scientific" reports on the dangers of marijuana, all of which are complete bullsh*t. Their film "Reefer Madness" is a cult classic of absolute fabrications and phantasmagorical distortions about the effects of weed smoking. I know people who have smoked weed for over 50 years, and the general public is far less healthy than they are.

I also know that Thomas Jefferson wrote that, among his most treasured memories was sitting on his back porch in the evening, looking out across the marsh, smoking "hemp."

Hmmm. What a radical wasteoid, huh? If it weren't for being addicted to weed, he probably could have made something of himself, huh? Effing imbeciles.

;-/

43 posted on 10/19/2009 11:11:16 AM PDT by Gargantua (Sarah Palin: The only Republican to take on Zer0bonehead and WIN!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

They should put it in suppository form.


44 posted on 10/19/2009 11:12:12 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (He or she that hesitate are lost.)
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To: rhombus
What is a smack pot heat?

The name of my new band.

45 posted on 10/19/2009 11:13:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Let me see now.

Marijuana is not as bad as alcohol, health-wise.

Alcohol is not as bad as tobacco, health-wise.

Tobacco is only 1/4 as damaging as marijuana.

I have some cognitive dissonance going on here, so pass the Bushmill’s and a fine cigar.

46 posted on 10/19/2009 11:14:28 AM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: Lazamataz

nice... it’ll be all the rage. ;-)


47 posted on 10/19/2009 11:15:07 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: gdani

Love the smell of hickory burning, though, as I barbecue my pig meat.


48 posted on 10/19/2009 11:15:45 AM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: Gargantua
Wait... is the Government saying there's settled science out there again? Go for it Climate Change drug warriors.
49 posted on 10/19/2009 11:18:14 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: The_Victor
I'm wondering how they separated the pot induced damage from the tobacco induced damage, since every pothead I've ever know was also a cigarette smoker.

Interesting, because I've had the opposite experience. Most of the true potheads I've ever known have been some of the most adamant anti tobacco zealots I've ever met.

50 posted on 10/19/2009 11:22:13 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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