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Second American Revolution—Part 2
Independent Individualist ^ | 10/19/09 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 10/19/2009 7:41:42 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: Hank Kerchief

There are many good points in the article. However, the author seems to believe that the only choice is between a hot war and a producer strike or series strikes of some sort. Solutions are not limited to just these two choices.

The author also seems to think that it would take a very large percentage of the population to effect a Revolution... Not so - our own American Revolution had less than 25% of the population as original active participants and/or strong - outspoken supporters.

Producer strikes could and would certainly be helpful... However, a big trucker strike would bring on Federal Intervention that most truckers would not confront.

What would work (especially if repeated) is a MASSIVE - beyond massive March on DC. And I mean MASSIVE... up to three or four million people.

The 9/12 March on DC was impressive... I believe there were at least one million people there. I have never seen anything like it in my life. It did have an effect - just not enough.

The secret to the next March on DC is more organization and many more people... PLUS we do one thing - WE DON’T LEAVE!!!

We end our Sunday Protest Demonstration at dusk and just STAY... No amount of DC Police, and or military can remove millions of people who do not want to be moved...

If there was forceful removal attempts it would backfire... there would be a million cameras and video cams on hand - plus media coverage... beamed up live to satellite.

If we Marched on DC and STAYED - standing in the streets several million strong, then sit down, stop traffic through Monday, Tuesday and or longer our demands would be met.

This would of course be non violent, civil disobedience, interlocked arms when necessary, lots of beating drums , loud bag pipes, noise, patriotic music, loud speakers and more ...

It would shake the government to its core. Velvet Revolutions do work... recent history proves this to be so.

(Yes - I know the government beat up a bunch of veterans nearly a century ago... but that was then and this is now... they didn’t have several million cell phones with cameras on hand then... and 24/7 Cable News. Any sort of violence against protesting Americans would only draw tens of thousands more to the streets to replace any that actually get hauled away).


21 posted on 10/19/2009 8:13:31 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Travis McGee

Perhaps of interest.


22 posted on 10/19/2009 8:18:37 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Hank Kerchief
I regard war as an evil thing. No good has ever come from any war.

The author should read the Old Testament sometime. War was one of God's tools; He used it to accomplish His good purposes.

I've been using an example time of a month, or two weeks, because I am convinced the consequences of the strike will so terrify the parasites, that in less than two weeks they will be screaming for the striker's demands to be me

Way to tip your hand, fella! Now our opponents know how long they have to hold out in order to outlast us.

No, this is a bad idea.
23 posted on 10/19/2009 8:21:22 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ShadowAce

I don’t under stand what you mean.

Can you elaborate a little more please?

Thanks Ken


24 posted on 10/19/2009 8:25:29 AM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: kennyboy509

He can’t spell common words.


25 posted on 10/19/2009 8:27:35 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Hank Kerchief
I regard war as an evil thing. No good has ever come from any war.

Including the formation of this country, apparently.

26 posted on 10/19/2009 8:29:32 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Well, please don’t take him seriously. (I notice the word is corrected in the original. Looks like an editing mistake to me.)


27 posted on 10/19/2009 8:29:39 AM PDT by jswift
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To: ShadowAce

What common words can’t he spell?


28 posted on 10/19/2009 8:38:06 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

Oh my, if we could all only get along........ src/


29 posted on 10/19/2009 8:39:39 AM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: Hank Kerchief

He spelled “martial” as “marshal”


30 posted on 10/19/2009 8:39:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Hank Kerchief

We are witnessing the ‘death spiral of the welfare state’.
If we’re lucky it’ll be resolved in 5 years. Typical predictions are around 10 years, but we could loose an entire generation if the American citizen does not give up the Big Lie, that the government can fix ‘it’.
Our Democracy based on individual liberty is being replace with ‘corporatism’ or authoritarian central planning.
Yesterday, Paul Krugman commented on the ‘mystery factor’, the factor that eludes the Obama Administration as to why the economy isn’t improving. They are poor judges of human nature.
With all the many flaws President Bush had, he understood what drove the economy. The revenue collected by the US government was unprecidented.
The current economic condition is a result of loss of faith and confidence with our government.


31 posted on 10/19/2009 8:40:28 AM PDT by griswold3 (You think health care is expensive now? Just wait till it's FREE!)
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To: Hank Kerchief

“Marshal law”? Are you referring to parade marshals, fire marshals, or US Marshals?


32 posted on 10/19/2009 8:41:39 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: ShadowAce

“This guy’s an idiot. If he doesn’t know what ‘martial law’ is, how can we take him seriously?”

Yeah, he loses all credibility with that.


33 posted on 10/19/2009 8:43:23 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: B-Chan; Hank Kerchief
“Marshal law”? Are you referring to parade marshals, fire marshals, or US Marshals?

Marshall Dillon

Marshall Dillon, of course.

34 posted on 10/19/2009 8:44:13 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: ICCtheWay

If the gov. can ignore over one million people, what makes you so sure they can’t/won’t more ? As for the media, do you think for one moment you’ll get a fair shake ? Solution, I don’t know, but I do know that if you took the numbers you voice, and on April 15, refuse to send in your taxes for a period of time, or everyone asking for an extension, you could bring the beast to it’s knees.The producers are the ones who pay the taxes and who have this power to STOP this give away of our Nation. IMHO


35 posted on 10/19/2009 8:47:36 AM PDT by gunner03
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To: Hank Kerchief
I regard war as an evil thing. No good has ever come from any war.

...except for the birth of the United States of America.

...and the defeat of Nazi Germany.

...and the defeat of Imperial Japan.

...and the end of slavery in America.

...and halting the spread of Communism in many parts of the world.

All I am saying is give war a chance. :-)

36 posted on 10/19/2009 8:48:50 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: ShadowAce

He spelled “martial” as “marshal”

Of course you are only assuming he meant “martial.” (You fogot the period at the end of your sentence. Should we not take you seriously?)

But “marshal” is spelled correctly, so it’s not a misspelling.

Perhaps you meant to say he chose the wrong word. Oh, no, that could not be possible, since you apparently don’t make any mistakes.

(Just teasing.) ;>)

Hank


37 posted on 10/19/2009 8:53:42 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

What are the producers going to feed their families with if they go on strike? Most of them live paycheck from paycheck.

This is what brought down the Soviet Union. In part, because the Cold War played a huge role in bringing it down as well, and there is no direct analiogy to it today with respect to powers that be in the US. But what played a part and is akin to what the author is suggesting, was a lack of interest in work. It was not a strike. In the Soviet Union you could not organize a strike anyway, you’d end up in jail. But everyone in his own mind made the uncomplicated calculus and he realized that while some level of effort is required for survival, hard work is not required, and is in fact reducing the very chance of survival. So people worked, but not very much, just enough not to be caught in sabotage. Workers went to their factories and played dominoes. Doctors only provided quality care to whoever bribed them. Plumbers and electricians expected cash in hand, or no repairs were done.

Something similar will be happening in the US: producers will produce just enough not to get fired, and because everyone will have that attitude, very few producers will actually be fired. The only hard work that will be done will be on the cash basis in the underground non-taxed economy. But strike, no, there won’t be one.


38 posted on 10/19/2009 8:55:49 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: ShadowAce

American Rveolution - created the world’s best democratically elected representative government in the world.

The Civil War - the beginning of the end of slavery in our country and although it took many more years of struggle our country finally achieved racial equality.

World War I and II - stopped the evil forces of fascism and imperialism from taking over the entire world.

The first Gulf War - pushed Saddam Hussein back into Iraq after invading neighboring Kuwait.

The War in Afghanistan - started because our country was attacked by forces of Al Qaeda which were operating in this country at the time in concert with the Taliban. Ongoing but with the intention of freeing the Afghan people from the yuranny of the Taliban, 25 million people.

The War in Iraq - opened a second front against Al Qaeda and terrorists in general in order to split their forces. Freed another 25 million people so that they could determine their own path to freedom, liberty, peace and justice.


39 posted on 10/19/2009 8:56:05 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TChris

Rule by James Arness?


40 posted on 10/19/2009 9:07:04 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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