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Three questions for ... Theodore Olson
SF Chronicle ^
| 10.18.09
Posted on 10/18/2009 1:16:28 PM PDT by trumandogz
Of all the lawyers who might have challenged California's ban on same-sex marriage, one of the least likely candidates would seem to be Theodore Olson: a high-ranking Justice Department attorney under Ronald Reagan, U.S. solicitor general under George W. Bush, and lawyer for Bush in the Bush vs. Gore case that decided the 2000 presidential election. But when a federal judge in San Francisco held a critical hearing last week in a suit by two same-sex couples challenging Proposition 8, they were represented by Olson and David Boies, his courtroom adversary in Bush vs. Gore. Before the hearing, Olson talked with Chronicle staff writer Bob Egelko about the case.
Q: How did a conservative Republican like you come to support gay rights?
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: boies; homosexualagenda; prop8; tedolson
To: trumandogz
I have a question. What would Barbara think?
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:19:56 PM PDT
by
Regulator
(Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
To: trumandogz
Theodore Olson as in Ted Olson? Freeper from way back (late 90s) and Barbara Olson’s husband?
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:21:08 PM PDT
by
mnehring
To: trumandogz
With the composite of the current Court, Olson and Boies will have the the votes of Stevens, Ginsburg, Bryer, Sotomayor and most likelyKennedy, who wrote the majority opinion in Lawrence v. Texas.
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:21:21 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: trumandogz
I was really surprized and saddened when I heard earlier in the year that Olson was going to represent the plaintifs in this case.
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:21:40 PM PDT
by
FrdmLvr
("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
To: Regulator
My question is . .why are you doing this (honest answer expected) . . . how much you being paid? . . . and who’s paying you?
To: trumandogz
Bay area upbringing, Berkely Education=train up a young child in the way he should go and when he is older, he will not depart from it.
This is helping the gays push their agenda in the face of the rest of us. Legal unions are one thing--gives them all the legality they could wish for. Marriage is quite another.
I wonder what his deceased wife, Barbara, would think.
vaudine
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:25:22 PM PDT
by
vaudine
To: trumandogz
Just another loafer wearing, lib republican elitist.
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:28:39 PM PDT
by
Oldpuppymax
(AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
To: trumandogz
Morality to lawyers is written $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
To: vaudine
While I am not sure of the opinion of Barbara Olson, I am quite sure of the opinions of Justices, Stevens, Bryer, Ginsburg, Kennedy and Sotomayor.
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:29:25 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: mnehring
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:34:02 PM PDT
by
Prov3456
To: trumandogz
Hired guns.
They don’t do it for kicks.
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posted on
10/18/2009 1:50:48 PM PDT
by
Iron Munro
(Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
To: trumandogz
And lawyers wonder why they’re as deeply despised as they are.
To: mefistofelerevised
Morality to lawyers is written $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4 No,I think morality to lawyers involves more than $4. ;-)
To: trumandogz
I think he has one or two sons and maybe one of them is gay.
To: trumandogz
"if individuals love one another and want to live in a stable relationship recognized by the state as a community and a family, that strikes me as a conservative value" By that definition, pedophilic "marriage" is A-Ok, as is polygamy and incestuous marriage. Why not bestiality? Love is love, right?
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posted on
10/18/2009 2:19:42 PM PDT
by
montag813
(During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
To: vaudine
Legal unions are one thing--gives them all the legality they could wish for. Marriage is quite another. I disagree. They are virtually one and the same - or soon will be.
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posted on
10/18/2009 2:41:51 PM PDT
by
fwdude
(It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
To: montag813
I believe by “individuals” he is referring to adult consenting humans.
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posted on
10/18/2009 2:51:16 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: A_Former_Democrat
Yer weird
Maybe you should reconvert back...
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posted on
10/18/2009 3:59:53 PM PDT
by
Regulator
(Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
To: Regulator
Thanks.
Maybe you didn’t realize I was talking about Ted, not you?
To: trumandogz
I believe by individuals he is referring to adult consenting humans. Right, such as brothers and sisters or fathers and daughters.
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posted on
10/18/2009 4:43:36 PM PDT
by
montag813
(During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
To: A_Former_Democrat
Well, let’s say it wasn’t obvious...maybe I haven’t had enough caffeine today
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posted on
10/18/2009 6:34:33 PM PDT
by
Regulator
(Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
To: montag813
We have laws against incest and there does not seem to be any organization challenging those laws.
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posted on
10/18/2009 6:55:46 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: trumandogz
We have laws against incest and there does not seem to be any organization challenging those laws. And what legal principles underlie those laws? If it is religious or tradition, that is gone with an Olsen-favorable ruling. If it is proceation, that is also gone, since the Olsen case seeks to invalidate procreation as a legal precedent for "marriage". Strip those away and I see nothing to prevent an easy challenge to both incest laws and incestuous matrimony.
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posted on
10/19/2009 8:30:27 AM PDT
by
montag813
(During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
To: montag813
I am opposed to gay marriage.
However, Olson is going to argue that Prop 8 violates the Equal Protection Clause and this Court will but that argument and overturn Prop 8.
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posted on
10/19/2009 1:37:25 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: trumandogz
However, Olson is going to argue that Prop 8 violates the Equal Protection Clause and this Court will but that argument and overturn Prop 8. I agree and believe the Supreme Court will follow suit, due to Kennedy's defection. However I also believe that my incest and polygamy landmines can be utilized to trip up the momentum ad absurdum.
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posted on
10/19/2009 2:18:28 PM PDT
by
montag813
(During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
To: trumandogz
So how many other Republicans are going to surrender, after taking so much $ and votes from conservatives?
What do we do then?
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posted on
10/19/2009 3:33:21 PM PDT
by
Dumb_Ox
(http://twitter.com/kevinjjones)
To: Dumb_Ox
My take on this is that Olson knows he will win this case at the SCOTUS and will not only have that notch on his belt, but will be known as an attorney that won a major SC case that was not in line with his political ideology.
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posted on
10/19/2009 4:58:47 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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