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House Republicans may face a ‘civil war’ over Scozzafava bid (GOP sides with ACORN, Daily Kos)
The Hill ^ | Oct. 15, 2009 | Reid Wilson

Posted on 10/17/2009 6:40:43 PM PDT by ellery

The House GOP conference is bitterly divided over a centrist New York Republican’s run for the House seat vacated by Army Secretary John McHugh.

Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, who backs abortion rights and has voiced support for gay rights, has drawn a challenger from the right who is running on the Conservative Party line. And though House leaders have urged conference members to donate, many have pointedly refused to back Scozzafava.

The Club for Growth, Concerned Women of America, former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) and evangelical leader Gary Bauer have all endorsed Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate.

The divide could foreshadow bigger troubles ahead for a party that hopes to make big gains in the House in 2010 and dreams of taking back the majority. Some members think that will be impossible as long as the party is divided over supporting centrist candidates.

“The Hoffman campaign is a real revolt against the Republican establishment and leadership, not just in New York but nationally,” said a conservative GOP congressman, adding that Scozzafava’s candidacy “could set off a civil war inside the Republican Party.”

Just 17 members — about 10 percent of the GOP conference — have written checks to Scozzafava’s campaign. They include House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.), National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Pete Sessions (Texas) and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is in charge of recruiting candidates to run next year.

Notably absent from that list is Rep. Mike Pence (Ind.), the Republican Conference chairman. Pence, the former chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, has refused to endorse Scozzafava.

“I don’t think this is an NRCC problem. This is a much broader Republican problem,” the conservative lawmaker added. “The inability of the Republican coalition to coalesce is going to be a huge challenge for us in 2010.”’

In an effort to prove Scozzafava can attract conservatives, Sessions pushed Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) to step up and endorse her. After his announcement, Hensarling took shots from some prominent conservative blogs and media outlets, with some going so far as to lob unfounded charges about Hensarling’s personal life.

Leadership aides blame those incidents on Pence, and say his decision not to endorse Scozzafava harms cohesion.

“It breaks down the leadership team when we all can’t be together,” one leadership aide said. “When you see a good guy like Jeb Hensarling step into the fray to take that bullet, you kind of scratch your head and say, ‘Do we really want a Republican majority, or are we in it for something else here?’ ”

Hensarling declined to be interviewed about his endorsement of Scozzafava. A spokesman said he had nothing to add to his statement, issued last Friday.

A second GOP congressman said his party’s leaders should be glad to welcome a female candidate with the background to win a district in a part of the country where Republican strength has declined.

“It’s hard to fathom that anyone in our elected leadership, especially after the past two election cycles in the Northeast, would be so tepid in supporting adding another woman to the House Republican Conference,” the congressman said.

But others defend Pence’s decision to stay out of the race. The conservative House GOP member said Scozzafava’s positions put her so far out of the Republican mainstream that, were she to win, she could do damage to the entire party’s brand.

“A lot of people in the conference are having a hard time [supporting Scozzafava]. This is somebody who’s for the stimulus package, for cap-and-trade, for card-check,” the conservative said. “We’re on the verge of losing that race up there because we’ve got a candidate who can’t hold the Republican coalition together.”

A Pence spokesman refused to comment on his decision not to back Scozzafava.

Don Seymour, a Boehner spokesman, did not indicate his boss saw any friction within party leadership.

“We’re pleased with the support Dede has received from leadership and members of the conference,” Seymour said.

A spokesman for Scozzafava’s campaign said it is happy with the support it has received.

“On Election Day, we’re going to be in a position to win this race,” said Matt Burns, a campaign spokesman.

The number of Republicans in Congress backing Scozzafava will rise in the coming days.

On Wednesday, 11 House Republican women hosted a lunch for Scozzafava. And Wednesday night, most of the House GOP leadership, including Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, Sessions, conference Vice Chairwoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.) and conference Secretary John Carter (Texas) hosted a fundraiser for Scozzafava at the home of ex-Rep. Nancy Johnson (R-Conn.).

Scozzafava was nominated by the chairmen of the local county party, and is competing for a district with about 46,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats. However, it gave President Barack Obama 52 percent of the vote in 2008.


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1 posted on 10/17/2009 6:40:43 PM PDT by ellery
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To: ellery

Also see: DC-Based Republicans Put $650K Toward Candidate Backed by Kos, ACORN, AFL-CIO, SEIU, Planned Parenthood and NARAL

http://race42008.com/2009/10/17/dc-based-republicans-put-650000-toward-candidate-backed-by-daily-kos-acorn-afl-cio-sieu-planned-parenthood-and-naral/


2 posted on 10/17/2009 6:41:29 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

Centrist?????


3 posted on 10/17/2009 6:41:58 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: rabscuttle385

ping


4 posted on 10/17/2009 6:42:09 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

I know—what a joke. This GOP candidate makes Harry Reid look centrist.


5 posted on 10/17/2009 6:43:04 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

America does not want RINOs.


6 posted on 10/17/2009 6:44:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: ellery

Scuzzyflava is NO centrist


7 posted on 10/17/2009 6:46:31 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: ellery

When Gary Bauer supports you, it is usually “the kiss of death”!


8 posted on 10/17/2009 6:47:11 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: ellery

“The House GOP conference is bitterly divided over a centrist New York Republican’s run for the House seat vacated by Army Secretary John McHugh.”

It’s time for Mourning in America...


9 posted on 10/17/2009 6:47:53 PM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - StoEven in the United States Senate, that august body p The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: ellery

There’s nothing “centrist” about an openly pro-abortion and pro-gay Republican in a district that generally votes Republican and would easily elect a conservative candidate.

This is insane.

And what’s obvious is that, once again, it is a LEADERSHIP problem. Except for Pence, all of the leaders are INSANE.

“Just 17 members — about 10 percent of the GOP conference — have written checks to Scozzafava’s campaign. They include House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.), National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Pete Sessions (Texas) and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is in charge of recruiting candidates to run next year.”

All of those idiots have got to go. They don’t deserve leadership positions, because they are incapable of leading.

It’s either that, or start a new party. These jackasses have blown the past two elections, failed to discipline traitors like Olympia Snowe, and now reveal that they are themselves traitors.

This simply cannot go on. Once again, they are racing the Democrat party to the bottom. Straight into the sewer.


10 posted on 10/17/2009 6:48:04 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ellery

Donate directly to Hoffman if that is your desire; don’t donate to the GOP. You can’t control where your money goes when you donate to the national Republican organizations and it ends up going to candidates that conservatives would never support personally.


11 posted on 10/17/2009 6:48:10 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: ellery
"competing for a district with about 46,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats. However, it gave President Barack Obama 52 percent of the vote in 2008."

The option was a rino, they stayed home.

12 posted on 10/17/2009 6:48:23 PM PDT by ocr1 (Get with the program GOP, the game has changed forever, we dont like RINOs)
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To: ellery

If there was any doubt the GOP is screwed up, the fact that they would give MONEY to someone who sides with the Daily Kos and ACORN, well then this proves it


13 posted on 10/17/2009 6:48:25 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ellery
Just 17 members — about 10 percent of the GOP conference — have written checks to Scozzafava’s campaign. They include House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.), National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Pete Sessions (Texas) and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is in charge of recruiting candidates to run next year.

Some names to kick out of office.

Hensarling should feel it too, he should have known better.

14 posted on 10/17/2009 6:48:46 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: ellery

Funny this. The GOP thought because they are not rats, us stupid idiot conservatives would fall in line.

I do blame McHugh though, for taking a job with this socialist administration. In fact, I blame all rinos that join this administration. They might be conservatives, but by taking a job with 0 they are turning their backs on us.

I also blame the local GOP for picking some idiot that should be running for a seat in San Fran, where that crap might fly, not in a more conservative district. Utter incompetence.


15 posted on 10/17/2009 6:48:58 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: WellyP

The RINO’s are always trying to divide the GOP. They may finally get their way. The GOP RINO’s can keep their 10%


16 posted on 10/17/2009 6:49:51 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: ellery

Anyone see any RATINGS about Scozzafava, I thought I read some today...but I can’t find it for the life of me.. All I remember reading was couldn’t decide who was more moderate.. Her or Joe LIeberman.


17 posted on 10/17/2009 6:50:05 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: ellery

Since when does the RNC takes sides in primary elections by funneling donor dollars to their hand-pick handmaiden?


18 posted on 10/17/2009 6:50:18 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: ellery; rabscuttle

If any election makes me think of Rabs, this is it.


19 posted on 10/17/2009 6:50:24 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: Truth29
Hoffman's page with donation link.
20 posted on 10/17/2009 6:50:48 PM PDT by ocr1 (Get with the program GOP, the game has changed forever, we dont like RINOs)
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To: ellery

Hey, party “leadership,” we tried your “centrist” (aka RAT-lite) approach with McCain and it failed miserably. FAILED. MISERABLY. No more excrement sandwiches and it isn’t because I don’t like bread.

My only regret about Sarah Palin’s part in 2008 was that her being on the ticket masked what an abject failure a centrist-centrist duo would have been. But God love her, we got to know Sarah and in fact her preventing the Obama landslide that was coming before she was placed on the ticket helps us refute the “mandate” claims of the Kenyan.


21 posted on 10/17/2009 6:52:13 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: gwilhelm56
Her conservative rating is 12 or some such. Lieberman is 15.

Hoffman wrote something for the Malkin site

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/17/a-message-from-ny-23-conservative-candidate-doug-hoffman/

22 posted on 10/17/2009 6:53:11 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: ellery

The Stupid Party expands its brand.


23 posted on 10/17/2009 6:54:15 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Steelfish

What primary? Was there a primary? I thought she was chosen by the local GOP council to be the candidate in the special election.


24 posted on 10/17/2009 6:54:40 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: ellery
“A lot of people in the conference are having a hard time [supporting Scozzafava]. This is somebody who’s for the stimulus package, for cap-and-trade, for card-check,”

???

I don't understand.. Why would anybody with an ounce of decency support this liberal socialist scumbag?

25 posted on 10/17/2009 6:54:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Maybe this will be the beginning of the END of that species, the rino
26 posted on 10/17/2009 6:55:11 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: ellery

Dede. So charming. So stupid.


27 posted on 10/17/2009 6:55:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: rabscuttle385

The present scuttle.


28 posted on 10/17/2009 6:56:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: ellery

No more RINOS!!


29 posted on 10/17/2009 6:57:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: GeronL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2353744/posts

this one too.. also talks of her endorsement by Daily KOS..

been looking but couldn’t find the damn link.


30 posted on 10/17/2009 6:57:25 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: Cicero

I agree 100%. The GOP leadership doesn’t care if the GOP wins or loses, as long as they personally stay in the good graces of the DC cocktail party circuit. Nothing is going to change until the GOP leaders (who think they’re in safe districts) are thrown out of office and sent home with their tails between their legs.


31 posted on 10/17/2009 6:58:48 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery
Just another example, if we needed any, of the GOPs' tone-deaf leadership in Washington. The fact that this candidate is backed by the WFP and is still endorsed by the GOP is simply mind boggling. If we can't clean house of these idiots sometime soon, it may well be time for a new party to replace the GOP.
32 posted on 10/17/2009 7:01:08 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The DemocRat Party is no longer an American political party.)
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To: ellery
TO
info@gop.com
ricktyler@newt.org

DC-Based Republicans Put $650K Toward Candidate Backed by Kos, ACORN, AFL-CIO, SEIU, Planned Parenthood and NARAL

I left the Democrat Party and joined the Republican Party with Ronald Reagan

I left the Republican Party when you nominated Juan McAmnesty

I voted for Sarah Palin

However If you continue to back Scozzafava, I will no longer and may never vote for a Republican again

You will have become the party of murder, perversion & thugs.

/signed


33 posted on 10/17/2009 7:03:25 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: ellery
New Republican marketing slogan:

WE'RE THE GOP. WE DON'T GET IT!

34 posted on 10/17/2009 7:04:51 PM PDT by clintonh8r (My country. Not my government.)
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To: ellery

I have no love for Scozzafava. What I am trying to say is Bauer is like TOXIC DEBT! He supports people and they almost always LOSE! Would someone please shut him up!


35 posted on 10/17/2009 7:05:11 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: NonValueAdded

This Scozzofava woman isn’t even RAT light—she literally racked up a more leftist voting record in the NY State Assembly than many NY State democrats.

Kos of the Daily Kos endorsed her over the democrat in the race!

http://www.rbguy.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/1/788504/-NY-23:-The-most-liberal-candidate-leads-%28and-its-not-the-Dem%2529


36 posted on 10/17/2009 7:08:15 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

I would say she is anything but a conservative. I can see this senario over and over again perfected by such RINOS as McCain. They give us all this crap about being Republicans and walk right over and vote with the other side.

Bi-partisanship; my fanny. Nope, we Americans want real Americans as our Congress people.


37 posted on 10/17/2009 7:11:14 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ellery

Conservatives need to take a stand. Any Republican who does not endorse Hoffman gets NO conservative support EVER again. Get on the phone. Contact your Representatives and Senators, tell them if they do not come out actively for Hoffman you will never do anything for them again. Let’s get these two faced cowards to show some principles and take a stand for what is right for America.


38 posted on 10/17/2009 7:11:35 PM PDT by detective
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To: NewHampshireDuo

If she were centrist, it wouldn’t be so bad, but she is left of many blue dog DemocRats.


39 posted on 10/17/2009 7:12:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: ellery

I sure don’t want my money going to Scozzafava! I’ll keep it right here in my wallet, Mr. Steele!


40 posted on 10/17/2009 7:14:10 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: ellery

I think the split is beginning...


41 posted on 10/17/2009 7:14:46 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Resident Obama: Not a President, not a Citizen, living here but from somewhere else...)
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To: ellery
My only (minor) problem with this is that Hoffman should have ran as a Republican, and that would have solved the 3rd party dilemma. But IMO the party leadership would have still backed Scozzfava anyway given their history of backing RINOs over conservative candidates, especially since this lady was hand-picked by the establishment.

Republicans are in for a rude awakening if they think they're going to exploit the success of the Tea Parties and voter anger at Obama & the Democrats socialist policies. This is why Christie in NJ, and now McDonnell, are seeing their respective races tightening up. I truly believe that 2010 will be a watershed year in politics.

42 posted on 10/17/2009 7:17:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: detective

Exactly.


43 posted on 10/17/2009 7:17:57 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

44 posted on 10/17/2009 7:19:58 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: ellery
‘Do we really want a Republican majority, or are we in it for something else here?’

This quote really explains the lackadaisical attitude the GOP has. It's all about winning and getting a seat at the trough, never mind fighting for the people and what you believe in.

45 posted on 10/17/2009 7:20:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: ellery

the oldest con in the world is “Good cop-Bad cop”.....that’s the Republican-Democrat con...the Republicrat Con.......


46 posted on 10/17/2009 7:21:33 PM PDT by mo
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t think he had the option of running as a Republican. As far as I know, because of the special election, the GOP central committee picked the candidate. So the only way for a conservative to get on the ballot was to run on another line.


47 posted on 10/17/2009 7:22:14 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: ellery

“The divide could foreshadow bigger troubles ahead for a party that hopes to make big gains in the House in 2010 and dreams of taking back the majority.”

EXACTLY why this needs to be nipped in the bud immediately.


48 posted on 10/17/2009 7:23:29 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Sarah Palin - Supports a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens. "path to citizenship" IS AMNESTY)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hoffman tried to run as a republican. Because it’s a special election, the state GOP (reportedly in consultation with the national GOP) selected the GOP candidate. They turned Hoffman down and hand-picked Scozzafava; Hoffman then agreed to run on the third-party Conservative ticket, while still remaining a declared republican.

http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/507595.html?nav=5008

http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/507934.html?nav=5008


49 posted on 10/17/2009 7:23:58 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He can’t run as a Republican. The Republican leaders anointed Scuzzy as their candidate.


50 posted on 10/17/2009 7:26:17 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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