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GPS Causing Truckers to Crash Into Bridges (NY Dems Seeking Payoffs Get It Very Wrong Again!)
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Posted on 10/17/2009 2:28:05 PM PDT by MindBender26

(As you read the article, remember it comes from the Dem mindset that GPS causes accidents, guns kill people, etc.)

ALBANY, N.Y. — New York state wants to crack down on truckers who rely on satellite devices to direct them onto faster but prohibited routes and end up crashing into overpasses that are too low for their rigs.

Gov. David Paterson on Wednesday proposed penalties including jail time and confiscation of trucks to come down on drivers who use GPS — global positioning systems — to take more hazardous routes and end up striking bridges.

In New York, a truckers' group called the proposal unfair and unwarranted.

Karin Kennett of the New York State Motor Truck Association said "requiring all trucks in the state that are using GPS to buy an enhanced device goes too far."

"It places an unfair and unwarranted financial burden on every law-abiding trucking company doing business anywhere in New York at a time when our state claims to be trying to improve our business climate," Kennett said.

"GPS is the heart of it," one NY official said, "Absolutely ... other states will be looking at Gov. Paterson's issue."

"This sort of culture of just following the GPS and almost ignoring the road signs has created this public hazard," Paterson told reporters.

"It's only a matter of time before someone is killed or a truck carrying chemicals or explosives hits a bridge," he said.

The bill would increase penalties for illegally using parkways and require all large commercial trucks to use GPS devices that route them away from restricted roads. It would also stick trucking companies or their insurance carriers with the bill for repairs and cleanup after bridge strikes.

The bill could hit the Legislature as early as January.

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The bottom line is that GPS devices don't cause accidents; people do. Guns don't kill people; people do.

Every bridge or underpass has a height limit sign. All truckers have to know is the height of their truck. If Number A is less than Number B, stop, go another way.

This is not driven by GPS. Truckers have had map books for 100 years, and yes, shortcuts were shown on them long before GPS was invented.

This is all just a huge scam to make truckers buy some very expensive new GPS, the manufacturer of which is undoubtably paying off the Dems.

Dem slogan: "Regulate everything, so you can tax it, and get payoffs too."

1 posted on 10/17/2009 2:28:06 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26
Gov. David Paterson on Wednesday proposed penalties including jail time and confiscation of trucks to come down on drivers who use GPS — global positioning systems — to take more hazardous routes and end up striking bridges.

Can't this idiot as governor see what he is creating?

2 posted on 10/17/2009 2:31:34 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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3 posted on 10/17/2009 2:33:52 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: MindBender26

The problem is that there is no warning at the entrance to the highway or parkway. There should be a device at the entrance to stop the trucks before they enter. Such an easy solution.


4 posted on 10/17/2009 2:35:13 PM PDT by diefree
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To: EGPWS
Can't this idiot as governor see what he is creating?

Well, the man has two strikes against him right from the start. First, he's an idiot Dem as you say. Secondly, he's virtually blind (no sight in one eye and limited vision in the other). So no, he can't see, either politically or visually, what the issue is. Perfect for being head-of-state for New York, if you're a Dem I mean...

5 posted on 10/17/2009 2:37:45 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: EGPWS

Let’s see now, what will $399 BUY?

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/ProductDisplay?partNumber=05711345000P&storeId=10153&sName=Car&psid=SHOPPING01&vName=Computers+&cName=GPSSystems&catalogId=12605&sid=IDx20070921x00003d

Or, we could give dimocraps ten trillion dollars....


6 posted on 10/17/2009 2:39:03 PM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: MindBender26

FORMER TRUCKER.

Every truck(ok, 99.9999999%) has in the cab a book called “LOw Clearance”.. it lists EVERY Bridge, overpass, train trestle, etc that has a vertical clearance of 13’6” or LESS.

ALL overpasses in NY are marked 1 FOOT LESS than actual Measurements.

Paterson... stuff your bridges up your ...


7 posted on 10/17/2009 2:39:57 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: diefree
The problem is that there is no warning at the entrance to the highway or parkway.

There are in Arizona. All the driver has to do is pay attention.

8 posted on 10/17/2009 2:40:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: jessduntno

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9 posted on 10/17/2009 2:40:10 PM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: MindBender26

Maybe they should dig a trench for the road under each bridge that has been crashed into so they meet the height standards.


10 posted on 10/17/2009 2:43:26 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: MindBender26
..just Paterson trying to introduce relevancy
11 posted on 10/17/2009 2:44:12 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: EGPWS

“Can’t this idiot as governor see what he is creating?”

No, actually, he is legally blind.


12 posted on 10/17/2009 2:45:12 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: gwilhelm56
FORMER TRUCKER.

Then you've heard this:

A trucker misses the turn-off before the low bridge and gets stuck under it. Cars are backed up for miles.

Finally, a police car pulls up. The cop gets out of his car and walks around to the truck driver, puts his hands on his hips and says, "Got stuck huh?"

The truck driver says, "No, I was delivering this bridge and ran out of fuel."

13 posted on 10/17/2009 2:46:09 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: gwilhelm56
ALL overpasses in NY are marked 1 FOOT LESS than actual Measurements.

How can they get away with that?!

14 posted on 10/17/2009 2:47:11 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: MindBender26

GPS devices do not drive vehicles.


15 posted on 10/17/2009 2:50:56 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: pnh102
How can they get away with that?!

It's a safety measure. The actual distance can vary depending upon ambient temperature, snow on the road, repaving, etc.

16 posted on 10/17/2009 2:51:09 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: MindBender26

It seems to me that the truckers could read signs that warn of a low clearance.

17 posted on 10/17/2009 2:52:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: bcsco
Perfect for being head-of-state for New York, if you're a Dem I mean...

My point made perfectly.

18 posted on 10/17/2009 2:52:54 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jeff Chandler

**The truck driver says, “No, I was delivering this bridge and ran out of fuel.”**

Mine was .. delivering this bridge but I can’t seem to find the ADDRESS!!


19 posted on 10/17/2009 2:52:55 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: pnh102

so the road signs and bridge signs are lies? lol. govt at wrk


20 posted on 10/17/2009 2:53:14 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: EGPWS

“Can’t this idiot as governor see what he is creating?”

OWCH!


21 posted on 10/17/2009 2:54:13 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

**It’s a safety measure.**

Actually, they’re too dayumed CHEAP to change the SIGN after they repaved, fixed a Pothole.. paved over the raccoon, etc.


22 posted on 10/17/2009 2:54:48 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: MindBender26

That’s MORONIC.


23 posted on 10/17/2009 2:55:23 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: MindBender26

In other words, Patterson wants a law against stupid. Good luck with that.


24 posted on 10/17/2009 2:57:38 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom." --Charles Krauthammer)
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To: gwilhelm56
Truckers have been ventilating trailers in Chicago for years.

What if the made all bridges 14 ft clearance. Oh that would be too hard....

25 posted on 10/17/2009 3:00:23 PM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: Slings and Arrows

**Patterson wants a law against stupid.**

Well, it will EMPTY OUT ALBANY, pretty damn QUICK!!!


26 posted on 10/17/2009 3:00:49 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: gwilhelm56
Truckers have been ventilating trailers in Chicago for years.

What if the made all bridges 14 ft clearance. Oh that would be too hard....

27 posted on 10/17/2009 3:01:14 PM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: diefree

The issue comes down to speed. If the expressways were better, meaning more lanes, higher posted speed limits, and fewer speed traps and weigh stations, the truckers would stay on the interstates and not use GPS to cut time and reduce the citation hazard. Remember speed traps are “revenue enhancement traps”

The NYS Thruway (I-90 & 87) is a nighmare. Two lanes, lots of traffic and many police....no thanks. I’ll chance it on a two lane.


28 posted on 10/17/2009 3:02:11 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: diefree; MindBender26

There needs to be no warning. No need to re-invent the wheel. No need for new regulations. We do have a pretty great system in place already. States publish this information and map companies use it in making their maps. Evey road in America is marked on a trucker’s map, as having restrictions, or not. In addition, there is plentiful, inexpensive, trucking aware, software on the market already. All of it, in current versions, interfaces with a standard GPS unit. Even the non trucking software can be modified by the user adding notes and/or warnings along a road or a complete route.

There is NO legitimate excuse to hit a bridge.

As well, in the front few pages of every Rand McNally Trucking Atlas map book, is a table of all States and their individual restrictions, height, weight, length, width, bridge capacities, etc. and laws that differ from Federal Reg.s, and addresses and phone numbers to contact if in doubt.

Some Cities, such as Chicago, even have special 800 numbers for truckers to call for safe directions.

The reasons bridges get hit is because something has changed, i.e. road construction that brings the road surface higher, a new bridge was built to replace the old one, a pedestrian bridge was added (and they, generally, need not be entered in the database), and, mostly, n00b drivers.

There are, practically speaking, no “real” truckers on the road any longer. They’ve been replaced by the “new breed” of steering wheel holders. The “real” ones that are left are looking for a new profession, or retirement.


29 posted on 10/17/2009 3:04:36 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: papasmurf
No, actually, he is legally blind.

He's a democrat, right?

His shoe size fits his foot then.

30 posted on 10/17/2009 3:04:41 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: MindBender26

Blaming the dumb GPS! As usual, the wackos blame the THING, not the person. Liberals never make people take responsibility for their actions. Blame the thing. Sue the manufacturer.
Judging from what I’ve seen with GPS’s, the damn things are really stupid! Following them blindly is really dumb! People have got to use some intelligence when using the accursed things!


31 posted on 10/17/2009 3:04:41 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: MindBender26

ALL TRUCKS OVER 53’ IN LENGTH ARE REQUIRED TO NOW HAVE A PERMIT AND ARE ROUTED BY THE NY CITY AND STATE DOT, THEY PICK YOUR ROUTE, IF YOU DIVIATED FROM IT YOU ARE FINED BIG TIME, GUESS WHO SENDS THE TRUCKS ON PARKWAYS AND TO BRIDGES LESS THAT 12’6”....THATS RIGHT THE STATE, SAME IN NEW JERSEY.


32 posted on 10/17/2009 3:05:54 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: jessduntno

Have you sent that link to the Gov and his staff?


33 posted on 10/17/2009 3:06:20 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind
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To: Ouderkirk

More time, more Fuel, higher costs for transportation,, higher costs at the MARKET. Cost of living in NY is so low that another price increase is NO PROBLEM... geez.

To follow what NY wants to do.. for me to get home would take 2 hours,12 Gallons of Fuel.. and I could STILL get a ticket for being on an Illegal road.


34 posted on 10/17/2009 3:06:58 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: gwilhelm56

LOL. Those have long since been discarded. I haven’t seen one in many years.

First 20 or so pages of Rand-McNally has all of that and more.


35 posted on 10/17/2009 3:06:58 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: MindBender26
The bottom line is that GPS devices don't cause accidents; people do. Guns don't kill people; people do.

Take the tools away from the people that the people produced in the first place and blame the people for being ingenious enough that produced them.

Kinda' unconstitutional isn't it?

36 posted on 10/17/2009 3:10:59 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Rumplemeyer

Not exactly. All truck/trailer combination over 75’ require permitting. Trailers exceeding 53’ can get a toll road only permit. As well, on the East West tollway (I-90) Super doubles (tractor w/ 2 48’ trailers) are legal.


37 posted on 10/17/2009 3:11:22 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: MindBender26

They should require every trucker to do as J.B. Hunt does.

Go under low bridges at night. That way no one sees them. LOL


38 posted on 10/17/2009 3:13:04 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: EGPWS

I thought their shoe size was the same as their IQ.


39 posted on 10/17/2009 3:14:11 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: EGPWS
It would also stick trucking companies or their insurance carriers with the bill for repairs and cleanup after bridge strikes.

I would agree with that. There is no excuse for not knowing the overhead heights of bridges and overpasses on your route.

40 posted on 10/17/2009 3:16:28 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (No to Crap -n- Trade)
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To: papasmurf
I thought their shoe size was the same as their IQ.

Bottom line...the shoe fits.

41 posted on 10/17/2009 3:16:53 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“Stand up and take a bow! Let em see ya!”


42 posted on 10/17/2009 3:21:10 PM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: Dust in the Wind

“Have you sent that link to the Gov and his staff?”

The Gov would never read it...hmmmmmph...


43 posted on 10/17/2009 3:21:49 PM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: gwilhelm56
ALL overpasses in NY are marked 1 FOOT LESS than actual Measurements.

So everyone knows that you can ignore the height signs, since they are wrong.

44 posted on 10/17/2009 3:26:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: trumandogz

Yes, but in New York state, low clearance signs indicated clearance from curb level back in the day (perhaps it has changed since I last drove thru the state) but my 13’6” requirement to clear was never marked properly, so, an underpass was a puckering experience each time I had to clear one. HOWEVER !! GPS or No, it is still up to the driver to slow and test his clearance before proceeding.


45 posted on 10/17/2009 3:28:53 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (Sunspots are so passe.)
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To: gwilhelm56

Tempting...


46 posted on 10/17/2009 3:29:21 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom." --Charles Krauthammer)
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To: PAR35

**ALL overpasses in NY are marked 1 FOOT LESS than actual Measurements.**

**So everyone knows that you can ignore the height signs, since they are wrong.**

In order to go from A to B.. you must either be a LIBERAL who believes the article or you are a RON PAUL LIBTARD.
HOW EFFING STUPID CAN YOU BE TO SAY IGNORE?????


47 posted on 10/17/2009 3:30:50 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: EGPWS

Did you mean the pun on Gov. Patterson? if so, congrats and very subtle.

....Bob


48 posted on 10/17/2009 3:32:06 PM PDT by Lokibob (When handed lemons...Refuse to sign for them. Life's lemons can't be delivered without a signature.)
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To: papasmurf

I am not amused. I’ve heard them all, twice. JB and the boys just keep on rollin’ while the rest are parked with a for sale sign in the window.


49 posted on 10/17/2009 3:33:16 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (Sunspots are so passe.)
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To: gwilhelm56
HOW EFFING STUPID CAN YOU BE TO SAY IGNORE?????

There are many units that are 'chopped and channeled' by those who did...8^)

50 posted on 10/17/2009 3:35:19 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind
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