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Swine flu hits hard, early — claims 11 more kids (More detailed than most articles)
Associated Press ^ | Oct 16, 2009 | LAURAN NEERGAARD

Posted on 10/16/2009 6:41:48 PM PDT by decimon

Swine flu is causing unprecedented illness for so early in the fall — including a worrisome count of child deaths — and the government warned Friday that vaccine supplies will be even more scarce than expected through this month.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: claims; flu; h1n1; hard; influenza; kids; swineflu; swinefluvaccine; vaccine
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Some of this is poorly written or edited. For instance, "The virus doesn't spread to humans who eat pork." must not mean that eating pork is preventative.
1 posted on 10/16/2009 6:41:49 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

That’s a picky police point; I wonder if the statistics on the main are misleading.


2 posted on 10/16/2009 6:42:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: decimon

The swine flu is a weak strain of flu. The problem is the body’s reaction to it. People with strong immune systems have more trouble with it because the immune system overreacts. Those with underdeveloped (not weak due to pre-existing conditions) immune systems have been just fine. I would bet that the children who have died are day-care kids. They have been exposed to so much and have great immune systems. The body’s reaction to the flu is almost like an auto-immune disorder.


3 posted on 10/16/2009 6:47:21 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: decimon
About 6 percent of all doctor visits are for flu-like illnesses, levels not normally seen until later in the fall. The CDC's Dr. Anne Schuchat (SHU'-kit) says, "These are very sobering statistics."

Global warming (not)

4 posted on 10/16/2009 6:47:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: goodwithagun

If normalized for prevailing temperatures (not just calendar date), I wonder what the toll from ordinary flus would have been.


5 posted on 10/16/2009 6:48:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: decimon
Manufacturer delays mean 28 million to 30 million doses, at most, will be divided around the country by the end of the month, not the 40 million-plus that states had been expecting

If this had been the case under the Bush administration, the MSM would have been calling for his head.

6 posted on 10/16/2009 6:50:33 PM PDT by kabar
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To: goodwithagun
The swine flu is a weak strain of flu. The problem is the body’s reaction to it. People with strong immune systems have more trouble with it because the immune system overreacts.

You are spouting utter unscientific nonsense. Immune system overreaction is why the Spanish flu was so deadly.

7 posted on 10/16/2009 6:51:57 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Beware of CDC info. If you look at flu deaths, they are deaths from flu and pneumonia. In other words people had pneumonia, got the flu as a secondary infection, then died. The American Lung Association has the data on how many people die each year from just the flu.

The vaccine does no good to those who are already immuno-compromised. In fact, it could make their conditions worse. As for me and my family, we will have no vaccines and will not take Tamiflu (side effects are frightening).


8 posted on 10/16/2009 6:52:26 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: AndyJackson

Really? What is the real reason then?


9 posted on 10/16/2009 6:54:58 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: kabar
“If this had been the case under the Bush administration, the MSM would have been calling for his head.”

President Bush was on top of the stockpiling of Tamiflu based on fears over the Avian flu and others. Note - if you have H1N1 you need to get on the Tamiflu within 48 hours of the onset of symptoms. If one has the flu now, they almost definitely have H1N1 as the seasonal flu hasn't started yet.

10 posted on 10/16/2009 6:55:07 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: decimon
One of the worlds great athletes gets sick.

LeBron Returns to Practice After Presumed Swine Flu

'Most reports of civilians catching swine flu include a high temperature, scratchy throat, and the worst aches they've ever felt. Jackson admitted that those were the symptoms he had been feeling, spending two days in bed and drinking a gallon of water a day.

"I can't remember ever being that sick," he said.

James said that he felt same symptoms, orchestrated the same routine and believes he has recovered. He said he believes he caught the bug from his teammates at practice, many of whom have been sick, too.'

11 posted on 10/16/2009 6:56:06 PM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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To: goodwithagun

“The swine flu is a weak strain of flu. The problem is the body’s reaction to it. People with strong immune systems have more trouble with it because the immune system overreacts. Those with underdeveloped (not weak due to pre-existing conditions) immune systems have been just fine. I would bet that the children who have died are day-care kids. They have been exposed to so much and have great immune systems. The body’s reaction to the flu is almost like an auto-immune disorder.”

You obviously know nothing about the immune system, so please stop spreading such nonsense.


12 posted on 10/16/2009 6:57:33 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Perhaps because everyone is freaking out about the slightest symptoms?

Internationally renowned vaccine researcher Dr. Sherri J. Tenpenny found that 70-80% of the sniffles, fevers and body aches generally characterized as “the flu” between 1999-2004 were not caused by influenza viruses, but by other organisms not covered by a vaccine.

Dr. S. Tenpenny, Annual Number of flu deaths: it’s a guess, accessed Jan 2008 at http://www.whale.to/a/ten12.html


13 posted on 10/16/2009 6:59:10 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Kirkwood

Your comment suggests you know everything about the immune system. Please enlighten us all. I got my info from this doctor: http://painreleaseclinic.com/

He has been treating me and my family for years.


14 posted on 10/16/2009 7:01:21 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Take it from a person who is recovering from it - you are wrong.

In terms of strength, it’s not the worst flu I ever had - that was during the winter 94-95 season when I was IN BED IMMOBILE for 8 days straight.

But this is far worse than the common cold or slight allergic reaction - my temp peaked out early this morning(Friday morning) about 2 am at 102.1 degrees.
I’m very familiar with my usual temps and BP, etc, my normal temp at that time of day is 96.8-97.3

SO!!

All usual precautions!
Lots of fluids, I esp recommend reconstituted frozen lemonade (I mix it like 2.5 or 3 to one, when I’m sick, which is rare, it’s more like a food to me than a drink
The old true blue standbye chicken soup Hey, it works, and is soothing on the respiratory track
more fluids

eggs!!!! Eggsactly the kind of protein your body needs to beef up your immune system - if you are all that dang worried about your cholesterol, eat some eggs today, and tomorrow eat have a bale of alfalfa or whatever
saline nasal spray - you don’t get alot of dates when you wake up in the morning with this crusty stuff around your nose...
chloroseptic because you WILL have a sore throat..
cough drops

Vit E
Vit D
Vit C
Vit B6
zinc
magnesium

have some ice cream around all milk dairy products help in clearing out congestion

I like to have some fresh fruit around grapes plums whatever...

a gorgeous redhead is optional but I couldn’t find any on sale at Walgreens...


15 posted on 10/16/2009 7:05:11 PM PDT by djf (Some people are proud. Some people are curious. I'm proud that I'm curious!!)
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To: BGHater

It does seem to be true that people are getting sick early this year.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 7:05:16 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
and the government warned Friday that vaccine supplies will be even more scarce than expected through this month.

In other words, "run out NOW and get-it-while-you-can!" I may end up eating my words, but this sounds like a pitch to get people to stampede the doorways to get the vaccination when they know many people are leery of it and avoiding it.

17 posted on 10/16/2009 7:05:43 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: goodwithagun
On Tuesday we have 18% of our student population out due to illness. (No confirmed cases of H1 to date - although a couple of the kids I know had fevers up to 104)

On Wednesday we went down to 14% and Thursday 13%.

18 posted on 10/16/2009 7:06:34 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: goodwithagun

You state you don’t believe CDC info and then you cite a doctor whose entire article is filled with CDC statistics. You don’t even read the articles you cite! What does that say about you?

Just from reading one post of yours it is obvious you know NOTHING about the immune system, nor are you capable of understanding the basic statistics regarding the incidence or prevalence of H1N1.


19 posted on 10/16/2009 7:08:54 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: goodwithagun
You got your info from a chiropractor?
20 posted on 10/16/2009 7:09:17 PM PDT by Ditter
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