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Chester City firefighter suspended over decal
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | October 16, 2009 | Joelle Farrell

Posted on 10/16/2009 12:46:55 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A Chester City firefighter was suspended without pay yesterday for refusing to remove an American flag sticker from his locker.

James Krapf, an 11-year veteran of the department, could face more days of suspension if he does not remove the sticker, Fire Commissioner James Johnson said.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: americanflag; decal; firefighter; sticker

1 posted on 10/16/2009 12:46:55 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

WHere is my country?????? It’s gone.


2 posted on 10/16/2009 12:47:45 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

This is simply outrageous.


3 posted on 10/16/2009 12:49:33 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

“Anybody who finds the American flag offensive shouldn’t be working there,” Krapf said yesterday.

AMEN!

Colonel, USAFR


4 posted on 10/16/2009 12:49:34 PM PDT by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: Ann Archy

Time to reform it.
Secession followed by reformation,
and a strict ideological immigration policy.


5 posted on 10/16/2009 12:50:41 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Hey just put an obomo sticker next to it - that would solve everything.


6 posted on 10/16/2009 12:51:14 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

A childish zero-tolerance one size fits all rule by a childish commissioner.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 12:54:07 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

But,,, I just saw the other day that we have a new flag, and it supercedes the old one.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 12:55:54 PM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I’m sure rainbow flag stickers are ok though since they show the department commitment to diversity, right? Sigh.


9 posted on 10/16/2009 12:58:20 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

He had an American flag decal? He should take that to the Supreme Court. No wait! We should ALL wear American flags in support/ like the Danish King and the Jewish stars.

This is disgusting.


10 posted on 10/16/2009 1:01:13 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

He had an American flag decal? He should take that to the Supreme Court. No wait! We should ALL wear American flags in support/ like the Danish King and the Jewish stars.

This is disgusting.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 1:01:32 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

12 posted on 10/16/2009 1:02:46 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
This one should be OK , though!


13 posted on 10/16/2009 1:04:08 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

So much for being the Cradle of Liberty.


14 posted on 10/16/2009 1:05:37 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Firefighters can post personal items inside the lockers, but the outside must remain "free of alteration," according to the directive.

I couldn't put stuff on the outside of my locker in the Marine Corps or High school. It's defacing government property..............

15 posted on 10/16/2009 1:06:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: mrmeyer

good point. if they’re going to bash America, then its time to bash them on ALL their fronts using the same tools they use.

we should start pushing the fact that we are offended by the rainbow/pro-homo stickers, the malcom X/militant black stuff, che/mao stuff on display at work.

or how we are offended when they force us to hide our religious affiliation and religious holiday displays in schools other public areas.

or how they attack us for daring to succeed.

personally, i’m offended by all the homo comedy and gratuitous homo scenes in movies, tv shows and commercials. very annoying.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 1:08:56 PM PDT by sten
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I worked for a subsidiary of PECO which is a part of EXELON, the most PC Utility in the Country. I had the flag on my safety helmet, as did every Operator in my Department.


17 posted on 10/16/2009 1:19:27 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
This flag, however....

.... would be OK.

18 posted on 10/16/2009 1:20:36 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Or this one....
 


19 posted on 10/16/2009 1:24:21 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Fire Chief needs a pike pole stuck up this ass.

Just sayin


20 posted on 10/16/2009 1:25:32 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Or maybe even this one....
 


21 posted on 10/16/2009 1:25:57 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Dude! mind the bandwidth!


22 posted on 10/16/2009 1:26:38 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

As long as the rule against having anything on the outside of lockers is really being enforced across the board, then I have no problem with this. As long as nobody was allowed to put an Obama campaign decal on their locker, etc. If there’s “no decorations on outsides of locker” rule that is actively enforced, then he shouldn’t have anything on the outside of his locker. If he’s allowed to have something when it’s against the rule, then others will insist they can also break the rule by having decorations of their choice, and there will be lawsuits from those who are miffed that this man’s idea of an appropriate decoration got a pass, while their own choice didn’t. It’s not like there’s an anti-flag campaign going in this department: “The flag is stitched on their uniforms, hangs on their trucks, and flies on a pole out front.” Note that this guy also had a union sticker and a sticker depicting a truck on his locker, and both of those were ordered removed as well.


23 posted on 10/16/2009 1:34:21 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: I see my hands

Understood!


24 posted on 10/16/2009 1:34:27 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: I see my hands

Apparently the Philly firebro’s don’t like American flags. What does the African flag look like?


25 posted on 10/16/2009 1:38:27 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Chester is Philly South. A cesspool of Obamanites. James Krapf is considered evil there. His position will be taken by a affirmitive action 110 lb. angry woman who finished last in the fire fighter test. Social justice in action.


26 posted on 10/16/2009 1:41:03 PM PDT by dancusa (Czars Czuck)
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To: Ann Archy
"Banning all materials from locker doors was the simplest way to avoid bickering among the staff, Johnson said."

Logical.

27 posted on 10/16/2009 1:42:42 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

The policy seems to be “no decorations on the outside of the lockers.” It’s not like it’s everything is allowed *but* the US Flag. Of course, this policy was prompted by some dummy who put up something offensive.


28 posted on 10/16/2009 1:46:35 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Stupid.)
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To: MrB

Really?

I mean I sized it down to 250 x 500.

It looks fine on my screen. Not big at all.

So... did it come accross way too big for your monitor, or are ya funnin’ me?


29 posted on 10/16/2009 1:47:19 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Oh, I see your misunderstanding. I used to have that same idea, that if I sized it down, it’s “smaller” - yeah, it’s smaller on the screen, but if you look at the properties of that particular image, it’s still 1.6 MEG.
Big, bytewise; small screenwise.

And the bytes are what count for those with slower connections (it also loads Jim’s servers).

I’m not trying to be the bandwidth police - I post a facetious image here and there as well. Just making you aware of the load and the “actual” size.


30 posted on 10/16/2009 2:01:19 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MrB

Well, the old saying is true.

About learning something new everday.

Thanks for this info. Really.


31 posted on 10/16/2009 2:09:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Ann Archy

So we all call and demand he be allowed to keep the Flag!

Chester city, Pa fire dept.


32 posted on 10/16/2009 2:14:40 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Freddd

1-610-447-7700

open M-F til 4.30 pm Eastern time.

Call and demand he be allowed to keep the flag on his locker!

They have been without a contract for over a year!


33 posted on 10/16/2009 2:18:20 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

It would be nice if his firefighter brothers would take a stand and put flag decals on their own lockers.....


34 posted on 10/16/2009 3:40:23 PM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: verity

OH yeah......The AMERICAN FLAG USUALLY BRINGS OUT THE BICKERING THESE DAYS!!! Geesh Louise.....it’s the SYMBOL OF OUR COUNTRY!!! If ANYONE COMPLAINS.....TOUGH TOENAILS!


35 posted on 10/16/2009 4:06:43 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

It figures. He is supposed to have an obama-Biden 08 sticker there.


36 posted on 10/16/2009 4:12:07 PM PDT by sport
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To: Ann Archy
You have to appreciate the dilemma in today's society. One exception opens the door to court challenges for other exceptions.

Nevertheless, I agree with you that this is deplorable.

37 posted on 10/17/2009 6:30:44 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: verity

Common Sense is GONE....GONE.....and FREEDOM is not far behind!!


38 posted on 10/17/2009 6:34:53 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Is this the place....

City of Chester, Pennsylvania

39 posted on 10/17/2009 6:38:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

That looks correct.


40 posted on 10/17/2009 7:50:09 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama lies, Freedom dies)
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