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DOJ rejects Handel appeal
AJC ^ | 2:48 p.m. Friday, October 16, 2009 | Aaron Gould Sheinin

Posted on 10/16/2009 12:13:49 PM PDT by Dacula

The U.S. Justice Department has denied Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel’s appeal of its decision to reject Handel’s plan for verifying voters’ citizenship.

Handel, a 2010 Republican gubernatorial hopeful, asked the department in August to reconsider its decision to reject the system.

The Justice Department in May said the verification program is frequently inaccurate and has a “discriminatory effect” on minority voters.

The decision meant Georgia had to halt the citizenship checks, which Handel launched in 2007 in response to the Help America Vote Act. That federal law required states to verify voters’ identity, but not necessarily citizenship.

Handel said Friday she is considering her options, which could include suing the Justice Department in federal court.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ballotstuffing; bhodoj; citizenship; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; dncbrownshirts; electionfraud; georgia; georgiavotefraud; illegalaliens; injusticedepartment; karenhandel; noncitizens; stolenelection; unamerican; verifying; votefraud; voters
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Karen has been protecting the rights of legal citizens and this ruling is wrong.
1 posted on 10/16/2009 12:13:49 PM PDT by Dacula
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To: Dacula

What’s next for Handel then?


2 posted on 10/16/2009 12:15:02 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Dacula
That federal law required states to verify voters’ identity, but not necessarily citizenship.

I had to laugh. But it ain't funny.

3 posted on 10/16/2009 12:16:59 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Dacula

The Bummer DOJ is a “dodge” all right.


4 posted on 10/16/2009 12:17:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Dacula
"which could include suing the Justice Department in Federal Court"

It all seems so futile, when the Courts are packed with those more concerned with the "rights" of minorities (including ILLEGALS), than the negative affect that illegally-cast votes whereby they cancel out the value of American Citizens who are honest, and LEGAL.

5 posted on 10/16/2009 12:17:15 PM PDT by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: Dacula
Try doing ANYTHING without legal ID. These libs are freakin’ illogical. I think that they are just laying the groundwork for all of the illegals being made legal. Good-bye USA.
6 posted on 10/16/2009 12:17:48 PM PDT by JPG (Obama...a 24/7 nightmare.)
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To: traditional1

“affect” should be “effect” (my bad)


7 posted on 10/16/2009 12:18:04 PM PDT by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: Dacula

The state of Georgia should go with their plan and let the DoJ sue them in court.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 12:18:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Dacula

why protect the vote of citizens? the DOI-department of Injustice


9 posted on 10/16/2009 12:18:16 PM PDT by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Dacula

What does the justice department suggest, to make sure illegal immigrants are not voting?


10 posted on 10/16/2009 12:18:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Georgia should ignore the DoJ.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 12:19:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Dacula

What’s “state’s rights”?


12 posted on 10/16/2009 12:19:47 PM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's mob minion - Mob Name: Hatman the Hitman)
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To: Dacula

I wonder who’s in charge of DOJ?


13 posted on 10/16/2009 12:23:31 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Red Steel

While I share that sentiment, the DOJ that couldn’t be bothered over a series of decades to help fix this problem, would be on Georgia officials within 24 hours after they tried to fix it on their own.

We have a fine mess on our hands.


14 posted on 10/16/2009 12:24:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Dacula
This is INSANE. How much more craziness can our republic take? You don’t have to be a citizen to vote?

Let’s start talking RECALL, IMPEACH, or INDICT.

15 posted on 10/16/2009 12:24:46 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: hattend

The Voting rights Act of 1968”, should be repealed. It has out lived its usefulness.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 12:26:34 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: Dacula

It is going to get interesting next year when the rest of Real ID kicks in and you need an amazing amount of documentation to renew your drivers license, etc. Non-citizens have NO RIGHT TO VOTE. And their participation in elections is a distortion of our system of government. ACORN has been active in Maryland registering illegals to vote and fighting off attempts to prevent their participation in elections. Their voting definitely affected the outcome of the last two elections there. I believe when the history books are written (if they are allowed to be written) the electoral fraud that ACORN has accomplished will be shown to have produced skewed election results where ever it has operated.


17 posted on 10/16/2009 12:29:55 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: hattend
"What’s “state’s rights”?"

This is why some people (including me) wanted the Voting Rights Act of 1965 to expire. That act gave the DOJ oversight (for lack of a better term) authority over a number of Southern states with respect to their voter laws. Essentially, for a court to rule with Handel here, they're going to have to rule at least part of the VRA is unconstitutional. The chance of that happening, for all sorts of reason, is slim and none.

Bush shouldn't have signed that extension. But, he did. So, we're stuck with it.

18 posted on 10/16/2009 12:30:42 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; PhiKapMom; justiceseeker93; freekitty; Free ThinkerNY; GOP_Lady; nutmeg; ...

The “concerned” in the government won’t even verify if the voter is alive; many dead are rising up from their graves to vote. Wonder who the dead are voting for?


19 posted on 10/16/2009 12:33:41 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes, I wonder. /s


20 posted on 10/16/2009 12:37:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

An opera? A magnum opus? Maybe some advertising jingles to keep the money coming in?


21 posted on 10/16/2009 12:37:28 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Dacula

Obama lost Georgia by 200,000 votes. Maybe Holder sees Georgia as a possible pick-up state in 2012 if enough fraudulent votes are cast for his boss.


22 posted on 10/16/2009 12:40:28 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yep. And Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck are voting too.


23 posted on 10/16/2009 12:42:13 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Dacula

Ignore the federal fascists. The racist “justice” department has been looking for a fight. Give it to them. Time for the states to step in the ring and start punching.


24 posted on 10/16/2009 12:42:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: La Lydia

“Real ID kicks in...”

The states nullified the Real ID act and refused the federal mandate.

See? When states get together and say no, the federal fascists back down.


25 posted on 10/16/2009 12:50:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: Dacula

Then it must be racist to ask for an ID when cashing a check or using a credit card.


26 posted on 10/16/2009 12:55:01 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Dacula

Let’s all grumble and not do a damn thing about it.


27 posted on 10/16/2009 12:59:10 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: sergeantdave

I don’t know about federal fascists, but I do know what the law says. Trust me. Come next year, the federal government is imposing huge, new requirements on state driver’s license issuers to get “compliant” with federal law. You will be required to show valid identification, a Social Security card and two separate documents proving you have a valid address in the state where you are applying to get a driver’s license. If you already have a driver’s license in that state, you will still need to present proof of identification (like a birth certificate), a Social Security number (that they will verify) and proof of residential address when you renew your license. Since October, 2008, new residents of states have already been required to provide this information. A current driver’s license will not be accepted as proof of identification, or proof of residential address. By 2017, a federally compliant card will be required to board an airplane or get into a federal building.


28 posted on 10/16/2009 1:00:30 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: St. Louis Conservative

The courts .


29 posted on 10/16/2009 1:04:56 PM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Dacula

GA will take the dispute to the courts.


30 posted on 10/16/2009 1:06:24 PM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Little Bill
Although there were some serious voting wrongs that needed to be corrected, the Voting Rights Act of 1968 now allows southern states to be treated as occupied territory. It also serves as a machine to create large numbers of votes for Democrat candidates under the guise of Civil Rights.
31 posted on 10/16/2009 1:06:34 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: La Lydia

i would like to see Karen Handel stand up against the Feds and take a stand like Sheriff Joe.


32 posted on 10/16/2009 1:07:35 PM PDT by Dacula (Evil succeeds when good men do nothing. Lets do something.)
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To: Dacula; AuntB

“Karen has been protecting the rights of legal citizens and this ruling is wrong.”

It’s wrong but, not surprising. Just as in Arizina, the Feds are hasseling Sheriff Joe’s methods fo crime prevention.

HOW THE HELL CAN ONE *VERIFY* SOMEONE’S IDENTITY WHEN THEY ARE USING STOLEN OR FAKE ID??


33 posted on 10/16/2009 1:09:48 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Dacula

End section 5.


34 posted on 10/16/2009 1:17:09 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: Dacula

35 posted on 10/16/2009 1:27:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: St. Louis Conservative; ncalburt

Yes, court is the next option.

As a general rule, one needs to “exhaust administrative remedies” before commencing a lawsuit such as the one that she will probably file.

That is in all likelihood why she went through with her appeal to the same body that originally denied her application.


36 posted on 10/16/2009 1:28:10 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Red Steel

Agreed!

Molon Labe!


37 posted on 10/16/2009 1:41:00 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: Verginius Rufus

In 2012 he’d need 400,000 votes. The moderates, and even the traditional Dems, are deserting this guy in droves.


38 posted on 10/16/2009 1:44:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Dacula
Handel loses appeal on "Baroque" copyright.


39 posted on 10/16/2009 2:01:06 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: La Lydia

“Since October, 2008, new residents of states have already been required to provide this information.”

Nope. Got a license as a new resident of SC and didn’t have to provide any of that stuff. I just told you, states are nullifying the Real ID act and refusing to comply. Your state may be caving but it doesn’t mean all states are following the crumbs.


40 posted on 10/16/2009 2:05:33 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: Dacula

Wait, I thought that the Supreme Court had already blessed the voter ID law in Georgia. Am I wrong?


41 posted on 10/16/2009 2:16:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: sergeantdave
I am surprised you didn't have to any proof of citizenship, since all states have required at least a birth certificate and Social Security card for some time. I think I will do some looking into that. What DMV office did you get your license from?

Perhaps you are in the military, or perhaps your DMV office is run by scofflaws. The DMV I go to is so full of non-English speakers that I am grateful for the service they provide by screening them. I was born in this country, I have a valid passport, a SS card and a phone and cable bill. I have no problem with providing proof that I am a legal resident of my country and my state. I guess SC doesn't have the problems we have with illegals. Virginia requires proof of state residency, Maryland doesn't, so illegals tend to travel there to get their licenses. Seven of the 9/11 hijackers had illegally obtained drivers licenses from Virginia, so my state is a little touchy. Hope the next plane into a building isn't piloted by someone with a fake SC drivers license. But, as I said, next year things are gonna change.

42 posted on 10/16/2009 2:23:00 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The Bummer DOJ is a “dodge” all right.
+++++++++++++

DOJ no longer.
DOJ = DOI = Department of Injustice...from the New Black Panther case, to lack of action on ACORN/COI to any number of things...their purpose over there is to obfuscate and cover up the bammy Chicago machine corruption radicals gone national.


43 posted on 10/16/2009 4:53:49 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Let’s all grumble and not do a damn thing about it.
+++++++++++++++++

Did you hear about the 9/12 March on DC? :)

Go Tea Partiers!


44 posted on 10/16/2009 4:56:27 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: FreedomPoster

In 2012 he’d need 400,000 votes. The moderates, and even the traditional Dems, are deserting this guy in droves.
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And he lost GA by 200K votes to a candidate like McLame...give us a decent candidate GOP - PuhlEEEEEEEEEEEASE?


45 posted on 10/16/2009 4:58:26 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: La Lydia

You’re really laying it on thick, La Lydia.

The fact that SC doesn’t require a cable bill and phone bill means we’re giving licenses to terrorists who will fly airplanes into nursery schools? Gimme a break! And our DMV employees are scofflaws?

Care to back that up with some facts, or are you suffering from female FEELINGS?

Just because you live in a shithole state run by fascist democrats doesn’t mean we all bow down to the democrat’s fascist gods and FEEL the need to be protected by cable bills.

If showing your fascist democrat DMV a cable bill, a phone bill and passport makes you FEEL safe, welcome to your delusion.

You want to cheerlead for the federal fascist ID law, go for it. But don’t come around me and expect a pat on the back.


46 posted on 10/16/2009 7:56:33 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: sergeantdave

Care to back that up with some facts, or are you suffering from female FEELINGS?
________________________________________

Was that your male feelings talking ?????


47 posted on 10/16/2009 9:30:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Dacula

Just wait till the court says you can’t verify nationality in Nationalized Healthcare. :)


48 posted on 10/16/2009 9:53:41 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Dacula

“WHAMMIES FOR EVERYONE” ...


49 posted on 10/16/2009 11:49:13 PM PDT by dodger
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To: JPG

I would think that ultimately the case would get to USSC.


50 posted on 10/17/2009 6:52:29 AM PDT by dools007
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