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David Beckham named one of U.S.'s biggest sporting flops as he celebrates England victory
daily mail ^ | October 16 2009 | Chris Johnson and Paul Thompson

Posted on 10/16/2009 8:58:45 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

The Los Angeles Galaxy star came in the top ten of what one U.S. magazine called the biggest 'busts, choke artists'.

U.S. based Maxim magazine said Beckham's move to the Los Angeles team was nothing short of a 'catastrophe'.

After all the publicity about his £125m move, it said the former Manchester United star has failed miserably to make football - or soccer as it is called in the US - more attractive to fans.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 3rdworldkickball; athletes; beckham; losangeles; soccer
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1 posted on 10/16/2009 8:58:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
people do not understand that soccer is different. a player can be one of the best in the world and hardly ever score a goal.

americans will never warm to it. i love the world cup and cannot wait to get up reaaaaaaallllly early to watch it.

2 posted on 10/16/2009 9:00:43 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Laying SOCCER’s American failure at Beckham’s feet is a little disingenuous. Soccer has long floundered in the US, and using one man to jump-start it is an error in planning as much as execution.


3 posted on 10/16/2009 9:01:33 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Isn’t soccer kind of like a bad version of keep-a -way?


4 posted on 10/16/2009 9:05:38 AM PDT by stevecmd
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To: thefactor
a player can be one of the best in the world and hardly ever score a goal.

No wonder all the socialists love it. That about sums up their entire world view right there.

5 posted on 10/16/2009 9:07:10 AM PDT by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: thefactor
They took a look at wins:

The magazine points outs that attendances at LA Galaxy games are down by nearly 25 per cent - and the team wins more frequently when Beckham is not in the starting line up.

6 posted on 10/16/2009 9:07:40 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Disgusted.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don’t know, maybe he hasn’t been such a bust...after all, fake injuries and sales of orange slices are up...plus the crowds at Chuck E Cheese are getting larger.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 9:09:15 AM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

they are confusing correlation with causation. he ain’t what he once was, but beckham is still a great player. especially in any league in the US.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 9:09:41 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Whoa, that's an awful load to try to lay on Beckham. It wasn't Babe Ruth who made baseball popular, it was the other way around.

That said, the game would be improved literally if we were to incorporate the old Aztec rules. Losing team gets sacrificed.

9 posted on 10/16/2009 9:10:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The rest of the world will never understand how displays of pansy ass behavior faking injuries on every bump could somehow turn Americans off. Not surprising considering the rest of the world is a bunch of pansy asses.


10 posted on 10/16/2009 9:10:54 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Billthedrill

sorry - “literally” = “considerably” - need more coffee.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 9:12:00 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SJSAMPLE

The only thing that will save soccer in the USA is the enormous influx of Third Worlder’s.


12 posted on 10/16/2009 9:12:10 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Shouldn’t blame Beck. He was poorly used. At this point in his career, Beckham is a specialist. But the popularity of Soccer in America is growing by leaps and bounds. The LA Galaxy is currently in first place in the MLS Western Division, so who cares about whether people think Beck was a bust.


13 posted on 10/16/2009 9:13:15 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: riri
"No wonder all the socialists love it. That about sums up their entire world view right there."

Over in Britain, it's a Class thingy. Blue Collar plays Soccer, White Collar plays Rugger (Rugby Union, not Rugby League!)

Flame away Brits!

14 posted on 10/16/2009 9:14:40 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Sir Gawain
The rest of the world will never understand how displays of pansy ass behavior faking injuries on every bump could somehow turn Americans off. Not surprising considering the rest of the world is a bunch of pansy asses.

Heck, someone here on FR once told me that all that falling on the ground crying was actually brilliant strategy that helped a team stop a shift in momentum and rest it's players.

15 posted on 10/16/2009 9:15:46 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Sir Gawain

...Plus most of the world doesn’t have 4 MAJOR competing sports in the country. Football, baseball, basketball and hockey? Where would soccer fit? Other countries don’t have to deal with all that competition. In Europe you have soccer...soccer...and some basketball...then some more soccer.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 9:17:19 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I guess they’ve never heard of Ryan Leaf across the pond?


17 posted on 10/16/2009 9:17:59 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: Sir Gawain; JRios1968

And Oguchi Onyewu’s injury was just a pansy fake, huh?


18 posted on 10/16/2009 9:18:21 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
the former Manchester United star has failed miserably to make football - or soccer as it is called in the US - more attractive to fans.

I remember my soccer team watching movies in the mid-70's about Pele and how he was going to bring the glorious international sport of soccer to us ignorant, provincial Americans.

19 posted on 10/16/2009 9:19:43 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: SJSAMPLE

All true. But it was also preposterous of Beckham and Posh to think their star power alone would make soccer relevant to Americans.

They did seem to conduct themselves as though they fully expected that Beckham’s soccer experience would not even miss a beat in being transferred from England to America.


20 posted on 10/16/2009 9:20:34 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

The problem with that explanation is that it’s not true. If a player is on the ground injured the rules state that the game cannot stop until there is a natural stoppage in the game, such as a ball played out of bounds, goal kick, etc.


21 posted on 10/16/2009 9:22:11 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“...has failed miserably to make football - or soccer as it is called in the US - more attractive to fans....”

With the likes of the Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, or Niners, who needs the other kind of football?


22 posted on 10/16/2009 9:22:43 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

In the USA, Soccer is the sport of the future......and always will be.


24 posted on 10/16/2009 9:26:12 AM PDT by Sterm26 (Philadelphia Phillies -2008 World Series Champs and going for a repeat!)
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To: riri

Its hilarious how clueless your statement is. Hilarious as in, Im laughing AT you, not with you.


25 posted on 10/16/2009 9:28:54 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Obadiah

I’ve seen plenty of soccer games, and I clearly recall the refs stopping play several times to check on an apparently injured player.


26 posted on 10/16/2009 9:32:07 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: safeasthebanks

Hmmmk. It’s still a varmebruder sport.


27 posted on 10/16/2009 9:37:58 AM PDT by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: Billthedrill

Well, considering the bread and circus mentality of what we’re seeing with this administration and this congress, that’s not outside of the realm of possibility in our life time, I’d say.


28 posted on 10/16/2009 9:38:26 AM PDT by twigs
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To: thefactor

After watching an EPL or La Liga match, watching the MLS is like watching Instruction League baseball.


29 posted on 10/16/2009 9:39:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Trailerpark Badass
The referee must adhere to the following procedure when dealing with injured players:

• play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if a player is, in the opinion of the referee, only slightly injured

• play is stopped if, in the opinion of the referee, a player is seriously injured

-FIFA Laws of the Game

So a player cannot merely feign an injury to rest or to stop the momentum (advantage) of the opposing team.

30 posted on 10/16/2009 9:43:18 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: thefactor

I understand it. I just don’t like it.

Hockey can be low scoring too but that is a sport I can enjoy watching in person even if I don’t go out of the way to watch on tv.


31 posted on 10/16/2009 9:44:58 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Obadiah

LOL, OK.


32 posted on 10/16/2009 9:45:56 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Wayne Gretzky jumped started hockey fandom, almost by his lonesome.


33 posted on 10/16/2009 9:47:23 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Berlin_Freeper

When a Manchester United, Real Madrid or FC Barcelona come here to play an exhibition game, the games always sell out here. So I believe that soccer can find an niche, but the problem is that it won’t happen until our teams can compete with the great European teams. So you have a “Chicken or the Egg” situation. The best way to do it, is to form alliances with the big Euro clubs, essentially making the MLS a minor league for the Europeans, some MLS teams are already doing this, ala “Real Salt Lake” with Real Madrid.

So when Manchester United wants to develop their young players and give them playing time before they crack the lineup, have them play here. Since the hardcore soccer fan in this country already is following the European teams, you get that tie-in.


34 posted on 10/16/2009 9:47:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Obadiah

When I see the fake and insincere injuries that seem to heal themselves miraculously it repulses me as an American. It is the antithesis of our core values. We don’t reward fakers, cheats and liars. Oh wait, we do. Never mind.


35 posted on 10/16/2009 9:48:18 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I bet 'Arry would have been better if he chose to play for West Ham United instead of forging ahead with the band.


36 posted on 10/16/2009 9:50:08 AM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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To: stevecmd
Isn’t soccer kind of like a bad version of keep-a -way?

American football, basketball, hockey...

37 posted on 10/16/2009 9:51:11 AM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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To: Chet 99

I don’t agree.
I’d need facts/figures to show that he dramatically improved hockey game attendance or tv viewership. Hockey was already a well-established North American sport at the time. Not at the level of the NFL, NBA or baseball, but established nonetheless. Gretzky just put a youthful face on a game that was seen as a “Gordie Howe” kind of thing.


38 posted on 10/16/2009 9:52:51 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: riri

And you’re still clueless. Funny how that works out...


39 posted on 10/16/2009 9:53:04 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Given the threatened boycott of the NFL on these threads, maybe Rush will boost soccer in the USA ;)


40 posted on 10/16/2009 9:55:35 AM PDT by EDINVA (Obama CAN'T see the Olympics from his back porch !)
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To: safeasthebanks

Ok, then. Ya seem a little more emotionally invested in the topic than I. Have a nice day.


41 posted on 10/16/2009 9:57:19 AM PDT by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Anybody that thinks soccer isn’t growing in the USA isn’t paying attention (because they aren’t interested anyway).

Since I moved to this country (from UK) in 1987 I’ve seen things go from no soccer on TV at all, to occasional midnight EPL games, a regular EPL schedule, MLS growing, Fox Soccer Channel...etc. - now I’m seeing Fox Sports Detroit have games, ESPN, ESPN2 - with multiple live games on each of them.

No, I don’t see soccer becoming the top sport as is everywhere else...as mentioned we have 4 other sports.

fyi...the new Seattle team is getting huge crowds...it IS getting momentum. I’d like to see a team here in the Detroit area...we could certainly use any new business we can get.


42 posted on 10/16/2009 9:58:25 AM PDT by fuzzylogic
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All
Beckham was not going to do to soccer here in the US what he did in Europe. And IMHO he is irrelevant to the game. Also, the anti-soccer comments are asinine, over and over and over again. She shoots, she scores! GOALLLLLLLLLL
43 posted on 10/16/2009 9:58:31 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support Our Military or Leave)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

They should just took that money and Paid people to sit through that torture instead of bringing that Poodle to play here.


44 posted on 10/16/2009 10:00:16 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: riri

a player can be one of the best in the world and hardly ever score a goal.

No wonder all the socialists love it. That about sums up their entire world view right there.

Yup. I'm friends with a Norwegian who just can't understand my utter distain for soccer. It is deeper than just not liking a sport, it goes against the grain of something elemental in all good Americans.

45 posted on 10/16/2009 10:04:48 AM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: riri

And yet YOU were the person that had the 5th comment on this thread...please stick to posting on threads on which know something about the topic, although I realice that may mean we never hear from you again.


46 posted on 10/16/2009 10:06:27 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

I think you mean...

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...cracks me up when they say it for a whole minute, I don’t get how they do it in one breath!

I believe they’re measuring Beckham by the wrong metrics. He wasn’t supposed to come here and score a hundred goals. He’s a ball deliverer and spot shooter...and still a very good one. I see plenty of kids wearing “Beckham” shirts...and there’s still larger attendance wherever he plays. Job done, goal accomplished.


47 posted on 10/16/2009 10:08:00 AM PDT by fuzzylogic
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To: safeasthebanks

I can see ya being all worked up since no one over the age of 10 actually plays your sport but have hope, the Commies are in charge now, I am sure futball is about to surge.


48 posted on 10/16/2009 10:10:35 AM PDT by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: Trailerpark Badass; dfwgator; I Buried My Guns

I love soccer, you see, it’s always been my dream to play for an Italian club, like Barcelona. :^)


49 posted on 10/16/2009 10:13:15 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: thefactor
americans will never warm to it. i love the world cup and cannot wait to get up reaaaaaaallllly early to watch it.

I don't know about that - a lot of us played it, and I think that it isn't too hard for hockey fans to enjoy as well.

50 posted on 10/16/2009 10:14:04 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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