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Russian historian arrested in clampdown on Stalin era
guardian.co.uk ^ | October 15, 2009

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:43:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

A Russian historian investigating the fate of Germans imprisoned in the Soviet Union during the second world war has been arrested, in the latest apparent clampdown on historical research into the Stalin era by the Russian authorities.

Mikhail Suprun was detained last month by officers from Russia's security services. They searched his apartment and carried off his entire personal archive. He has now been charged with violating privacy laws and, if convicted, faces up to four years in jail.

Suprun had been researching Germans sent to Russia's Arctic gulags. A professor of history at Arkhangelsk's Pomorskiy university, his study included German prisoners of war captured by the Red Army as well as Russian-speaking ethnic Germans, many from southern Russia, deported by Stalin. Both groups ended up in Arkhangelsk camps.

"I had been planning to write two books. I need another two or three years before I can finish them," Suprun told the Guardian today. The historian – who described his arrest as "absurd" – said he had signed an agreement with local officials not to talk further about his case.

But the arrest has provoked outrage in Germany and among leading historians. It comes amid Kremlin attempts to rehabilitate Stalin and to clamp down on independent historical research – with political repression during the Soviet era and victims of the gulag system now taboo topics.

Today the historian and writer Orlando Figes described Suprun's arrest as unprecedented, and part of a "Putinite campaign against freedom of historical research and expression". Figes, professor of history at Birkbeck college, London University, added: "[It's] potentially quite alarming, if it means that the regime intends to clamp down on the collection of personal data about the Stalin terror."

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TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communismkills; gulag; putin; revisionisthistory; russia; sovietunion; stalinism; stalinisttactics; supremesoviet

1 posted on 10/15/2009 1:43:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Anybody who studied the Eastern front knows why Putin would arrest this guy. I am still surprised since it is pretty common knowledge the Soviets treated German and Axis POWs horribly. Some 90,000 Germans surrendered at Stalingrad and less than 10,000 made it back to Germany after the war. To be fair, Stalin was brutal to his own people and the Nazis treated Russian POWs worse than dogs.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 1:46:25 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Maybe a thousand years from now Russia will join Western civilization.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 1:46:34 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: Tailgunner Joe

As they say in Russia, “Those who do want to relive history, rewrite it.”


4 posted on 10/15/2009 1:47:12 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The judge said five to ten but I say double that again
I’m not working for the clampdown
No man born with a living soul
Can be working for the clampdown
Kick over the wall ‘cause government’s to fall
How can you refuse it?
Let fury have the hour, anger can be power
D’you know that you can use it?


5 posted on 10/15/2009 1:47:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Melchior

Maybe a thousand years from now Communism will finally be snuffed out as Nazism was.


6 posted on 10/15/2009 1:48:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The character assassination of Rush Limbaugh is worse than what the Left accused Joe McCarthy of.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And there are many in the West who *still* deny that the Soviet Union is back.I guess allowing themselves to be ruled by psychopathic thugs is in the Russians’ blood and thus,it will always be the case.
7 posted on 10/15/2009 1:48:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
charged with violating privacy laws

So that's how Russia protects Russian criminals!

8 posted on 10/15/2009 1:49:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Maybe a thousand years from now Communism will finally be snuffed out as Nazism was

As long as there is someone who has a crumb more than someone else there will always be some idiot with too much time on his hands to theorize about the injustice of it and then a whole bunch of morons to follow him. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

9 posted on 10/15/2009 1:50:38 PM PDT by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: C19fan
it is pretty common knowledge the Soviets treated German and Axis POWs horribly.

They treated Allied POWs pretty shabby, too.

10 posted on 10/15/2009 1:53:54 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Iron curtain of Communism is returning to mother Russia.How long before we get iteration two of the Soviet Union?


11 posted on 10/15/2009 1:55:23 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the Dogs.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“What we are seeing is the rebirth of control over history,” said Rauf Gabidullin, of Arkhangelsk’s movement for human rights. “The majority of Russians don’t have any idea of the scale of Stalin’s repression. Those in power are from the KGB. They don’t want people to know what their KGB predecessors were doing, or its huge scope.”

Back in the USSR, you don’t know how lucky you are boy...back in the USS...back in the USSR.


12 posted on 10/15/2009 1:56:06 PM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

50 years from now anyone investigating Obama’s real birth certificate will get the same punishment -—or worse.


13 posted on 10/15/2009 2:00:07 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

mark


14 posted on 10/15/2009 2:02:38 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“A people separated from their history are easily persuaded”, supposedly Marx.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 2:10:33 PM PDT by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hmmm, state authorities using a privacy law against someone who exposed something they didn’t like. Seems awfully familiar, and I’m not talking Hitler or Stalin. Something more recent, something right here in the US.

Oh yeah, here it is; http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/11/acorn-watch-the-baltimore-city-state%E2%80%99s-attorneys-office-warped-priorities/ (ACORN busting bloggers facing possible wiretapping charges).

Gee, the similarities are shocking, just SHOCKING, I say! /SARC


16 posted on 10/15/2009 2:11:16 PM PDT by piytar (Zero pimping propaganda on all SRM channels at once: Big Brother in 2009! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Who says communism is dead in the New Soviet Union?


17 posted on 10/15/2009 2:20:11 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Jackboots.


18 posted on 10/15/2009 2:26:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The USSR did not fall. It’s currently just catching its breath, getting ready for a comeback.


19 posted on 10/15/2009 2:31:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The Soviet Union (USSR) was dissolved. All the Jews that wanted to leave have left. They have instituted a democracy, privatized most of the country, passed a flat tax, have had 3-4 different elected presidents so far. Their population is whittled down to 140 million and now call themselves Russia.

We have Acorn thugs with their patron in the WH. We have Al Gore, Sharpton and Jesse, the MSM, and now the bigots in the NFL. Times have changed for the better for Russians, with 90% approval for Putin. Times have changed for the worse for us.

psychopathic thugs.. ? Little strong don't you think? Lets fix our own problems and others fix theirs.

20 posted on 10/15/2009 2:47:45 PM PDT by duckln
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To: duckln

It’s not as if the Russians were angels before the Bolsheviks took over.


21 posted on 10/15/2009 2:48:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: duckln
Just keep whistling past the grave yard....
22 posted on 10/15/2009 2:50:35 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: C19fan

>To be fair, Stalin was brutal to his own people and the Nazis treated Russian POWs worse than dogs.<

They treated their own POWs horribly too.

I’m reading The Gulag Archipelago right now. The author describes how Russian POWs were shot upon being released and returned to the motherland. (They didn’t want word getting out about how much nicer Europe was compared to life under the Soviet regime.)


23 posted on 10/15/2009 3:08:10 PM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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To: C19fan

To be really, really, really fair, the peoples neighboring russia were very well aquainted with, and lived in fear of its barbarity.
And guess what the Nazi’s could certainly be brutal to their own people.
At least until PC and HD legislation makes the knowlege of atrocities other than Nazi unspeakable here in the USA, we can read that the russians still silence citizens who investigate their crimes.


24 posted on 10/15/2009 3:47:33 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Now that we brought up Russia, everyone better get on the band wagon and Call for HITLARY to GET HE H—L of Russia and stop playing with our lives. It was COMMUNIST Madamn Notsobright that signed and old Russian tready with the consent of the Clintons that would stop us from having a missile defense. THANKD TO PRES.GEO.BUSH HE WENT FORWARD AND GOT OUR MISSILE DEFENSE UP AND RUNNING AGAIN. NO COUNTRY, NO LEADER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD NOT WANT A MISSILE DEFENSE, OBOZO STOPPED THE MISSILE DEFENSE FOR EUROPE AND NOT HITLAR IS IN RUSSIA, STABBING US IN THE BACK AGAIN. RUSSIA IS BUSY WITH CHEVEZ AND THE IRANIAN NUT CASE PLANNING FOR SOMETHING, SELLING MISSILES AND NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR WANTING TO ONCE AGAIN TAKE OVER MANY OF THE SOME COUNTRIES BUT EVEN THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO SATIFY RUSSIA THESE DAYS, THEY WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING WE HAVE AND ALSO TO STOP OUR MISSILE DEFENSE, HITLARY HAPPENS TO BE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB. HITLARY A LONG TIME AMERCAN HATER NEEDS TO GET OUT OF RUSSIA AND STOP FUNDING HER TREASONIST TOUR THAT SHE IS ON.
CONGRESS MUST STOP THE FUNDING OF HITLARY ALONG WITH THE CZARS.
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT THAT BEAST IN A CAGE AND KEEP HER THERE BEFORE HER TERRORIST BUDDIES, THE ONES THAT FUNDED HER SENATE SEAT, THE ONES SHE VISITED ON HER LISTENING TOURS. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NEEDS TO CALL FOR HITLARY NOT TO LEAVE THIS COUNTRY AGAIN AND NO MORE BACK STABBING DEALS WITH FOREIGN COUNTRIES. LOCK HER UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY ALONG WITH THE KENNEDY CLAN. THANKS TO JOE KENNEDY CHEVEZ HAS PLENTY OF MONEY TO BUY MISSILES, CHEAP OIL FOR THE KENNEDYS WHILE THEY SOCKED IT TO US. THEY GAVE A FEW PEOPLE OIL, A TAX RIGHT OFF, THEY DO NOTHING WITH OUT GETTING SOMETHING IN RETURN.
25 posted on 10/15/2009 4:08:13 PM PDT by rebapiper
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To: PapaBear3625
Your right there and Hitlary is just the person that will make it happen.
Where is Pres.Bush to speak out and tell the American people WE CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT A MISSILE DEFENSE.
obozo has got everyone busy with obozocare on their minds and nobody is paying attention to Hitlary and her treasonist tour that will get us all killed. Hitlary wss part of a communist group when she was in the senate the first time and she seems to be very much involved with her communist friends again, doing their dirty work again. This time she has the power to bring us to our knees. China almost owns us now and Russia and China want us to give up the US dollar. IF this nut case, American hater Hitlary makes her deals with Russia and we no longer can defend ourselves we will have to give up the dollar. obozo is DEVIRTING THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM HITLARY and Russia with the obozocare insurance that nobody wants.
26 posted on 10/15/2009 4:20:59 PM PDT by rebapiper
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To: nkycincinnatikid

>russians still silence citizens who investigate their crimes.<

As far as I know, Germany at least came to terms with their brutality and preserved for posterity historical items relating to it.

Meanwhile, back in Russia, these “dissidents”(people only trying to tell the current or historical truth)are still arrested or killed under mysterious circumstances.

Russia may not be as backward as they used to be, but they are not to be trusted under any circumstances as far as I’m concerned.


27 posted on 10/15/2009 5:02:04 PM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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