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Lester Brown says ‘we can’t afford to let the planet get much hotter’ (barf)
newjerseynewsroom ^ | 10/12/09 | STEPHEN LEAHY

Posted on 10/15/2009 7:09:40 AM PDT by listenhillary

UXBRIDGE, CANADA — Lester Brown says his views sometimes appear extreme - because the mainstream media largely doesn't understand the urgency and challenges in avoiding catastrophic climate change.

The founder and president of the Washington-based Earth Policy Institute, he is also considered by many to be one of the world's most influential thinkers.

"It looks like I'm a radical because the mainstream media aren't reflecting the reality of our situation," Brown says.

A farmer from the eastern U.S. state of New Jersey, Brown entered the U.S. Civil Service in the 1960s, becoming an expert on foreign agricultural policy before leaving to found the Worldwatch Institute in 1974.

The winner of many awards and honorary degrees, Brown is the author of 50 books. In 2001, he founded the Earth Policy Institute to provide a roadmap for achieving an environmentally sustainable economy.

His most recent book is "Plan B 4.0: Mobilizing to Save Civilization", the fourth and perhaps most urgent version of the Plan B series, available for download at the institute's website. In Plan 4.0, Brown calls for carbon emissions cuts of 80 percent by 2020.

"We cannot afford to let the planet get much hotter," he explains simply.

IPS environmental correspondent Stephen Leahy recently spoke with Brown on the launch of his new book.

IPS: You are calling for global carbon reductions of 80 percent by 2020. That's far, far more than what any country is proposing to do right now.

LESTER BROWN: Political leaders look at how much of a cut in emissions is politically feasible. At the Earth Policy Institute, we looked at how much of a cut is necessary to avoid the most dangerous effects of climate change.

Already the massive Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets are melting at accelerating rates. If they melt completely, it would raise sea levels by 12 meters (39 feet). Mountain glaciers around the world are shrinking and at risk of disappearing, including those in the mountains of Asia whose ice melt feeds the continent's major rivers during the dry season.

To stabilize the climate and keep future global temperature rise to a minimum we need to keep the concentration of CO2 (carbon dioxide) to 400 parts per million.

IPS: Is such a huge global reduction in emissions even possible?

LB: It will take a worldwide mobilization at wartime speed. First, investing in energy efficiency will allow us to keep global energy demand from increasing. Switching lighting to LEDs (light emitting diodes) and use of smart sensors like motion detectors could reduce the amount of electricity used in lighting by 90 percent.

Then we can cut carbon emissions by one-third by replacing fossil fuels with renewable energy sources for electricity and heat production. In a few years time, Texas will quadruple its wind energy output to 8,000 megawatts. And it plans to grow to 40,000 megawatts, the equivalent of 50 coal-fired power plants. The rate of change is breathtaking.

A further 14 percent cut in emissions would come from restructuring our transportation systems and reducing coal and oil use in industry. Ending net deforestation worldwide can cut CO2 emissions another 16 percent. Last, planting trees and managing soils to sequester carbon can absorb 17 percent of our current emissions.

None of these initiatives depends on new technologies. We know what needs to be done to reduce CO2 emissions 80 percent by 2020. All that is needed now is leadership.

IPS: Most people, including our political leaders, don't seem to feel any sense of urgency or danger about climate change. What will motivate this wartime mobilization?

LB: Change is happening already and it's accelerating. Carbon emissions in the U.S. are down nine percent this year and it's not just due to the recession. I doubt that a new coal plant will be built in the U.S. in future - 22 are being closed or converted this year alone. When rising sea levels become more evident, then people will act.

This is bit like the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. There were years of widespread discontent before the fall that festered and engaged many people at the local level and then seemingly overnight there is a political revolution that changes everything. We are moving towards this kind of tipping point.

IPS: What other signs do you see that we are reaching a tipping point?

LB: I see a change in socializing patterns. At one time, getting a driver's license or owning a car was the key to social interactions for young people. That's changing. In Japan, socialization now happens through the internet and new car sales are in decline. Even in America, the car fleet is shrinking and bike use is going up.

I also see a lot of value searching going on: what are the health affects of cars and our commuting lifestyles? How can we build complete streets with sidewalks, bike lanes that are safe for everyone? The economic downturn has also shifted thinking, I think we will emerge as a much less materialistic society.

IPS: Will this be enough to restructure the world's economies?

LB: I don't know. In the end, the race to save civilization is between social-political and natural tipping points.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; carbontax; climatechange; co2; globalwarming; lesterbrown
80 percent CO2 reduction in 11 years? Ummm...
1 posted on 10/15/2009 7:09:41 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

I think we need to go with the message that in fact, it’s too late....that the opportunity to reduce emissions has passed.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 7:10:37 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: listenhillary

The Copenhagen conference is in December. Look for an increase in the number of stories on climate change and the end is near.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 7:11:36 AM PDT by kabar
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To: listenhillary

Anyone I have met from Uxbridge can pretty much be ignored. They all seem to be rabid elitist socialists.


4 posted on 10/15/2009 7:12:21 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: ConservativeDude
The founder and president of the Washington-based Earth Policy Institute, he is also considered by many to be one of the world's most influential thinkers.

Ummm, define many

"It looks like I'm a radical because the mainstream media aren't reflecting the reality of our situation," Brown says.

Yeah, like THAT'S believable.

5 posted on 10/15/2009 7:13:40 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: listenhillary

Sad day when Brown jumps on a bandwagon like this. Hasnt convinced me of a thing here.


6 posted on 10/15/2009 7:13:53 AM PDT by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: JudyinCanada

He was originally a farmer in NJ. Must be the gravitational pull of denseness generated by those in Uxbridge that led him to settle there.


7 posted on 10/15/2009 7:14:30 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: listenhillary

It’s 20 degrees below normal today and that’s the forecast for the next several days.

I’m already ready for it to get a little warmer.


8 posted on 10/15/2009 7:15:24 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (There's a strange odor coming from the White House. Smells like BO.)
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To: Puppage
Ummm, define many

At least a couple.

9 posted on 10/15/2009 7:16:40 AM PDT by thulldud (It HAS happened here!)
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To: listenhillary

Yes, lots of “denseness” in Uxbridge. It may have been that, or the scent of retired hippies.


10 posted on 10/15/2009 7:16:56 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: listenhillary
It will take a worldwide mobilization at wartime speed.

Yes, an operation of military precision is needed to drop our quality of life back to 1880 levels.

But I'm betting Lester Brown is planning on keeping his car, his air conditioning, his computer, and his television. The serfs can do without.

11 posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:15 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Hoodlum91
Ah but it's "climate change" now. Warming, cooling - its all change.

The term 'climate change' is extremely accurate shorthand. It is in fact a tacit admission by the AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) lobby that the climate has stopped warming.

After all, if the public are to be convinced to shell out for carbon credits and carbon-taxes, then the current series of colder summers and colder winters is not helping the AGW cause.

If the AGW lobby manage to rename their political bogeyman from 'Anthropogenic Global Warming' to 'Climate Change' then they will have successfully foisted a non-disprovable onto us. Any fact 'proves' Climate Change because there is no fact, no test that disproves it.

"Weather hotter this year? - bad news, that's man-made climate change! We need more carbon credits!"

"Weather colder this year? - bad news, that's man-made climate change! We need more carbon credits!"

"New Ice Age? Northern Europe uninhabitable due to glaciation? - bad news, that's man-made climate change. We need more carbon credits before it is too late!"

After all, the climate never stops changing. It's been up and down like a yo-yo for billions of years. Once we as a society glom onto non-disprovable Anthropogenic Climate Change, rather than unproven Anthropogenic Global Warming, then we really are sunk.

Nothing then could damage our magical belief in the climate, and man's heinous effect upon it.

Primitive peoples who believe that the earth is carried on the back of a turtle can at least be dissuaded by the evidence. But what evidence could ever challenge our invincible faith that all climate change was somehow down to us?

12 posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:31 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: listenhillary
Then we can cut carbon emissions by one-third by replacing fossil fuels with renewable energy sources for electricity and heat production.

Reminds me of the old Steve Martin bit about how to be a millionaire:

"First, get a million dollars. Second..."

13 posted on 10/15/2009 7:22:33 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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14 posted on 10/15/2009 7:23:48 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: listenhillary

Where has this guy been ?

There is no Global Warming. None. Nada.

There is still a lot of outdated material and satellite photos circulating showing glaciers melting and the Arctic ice pack diminishing. Global warming wackos are still using this as evidence, outdated or not.

Well, that trend has reversed. The Arctic ice pack has actually started expanding again, but you won’t hear that from them.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 7:24:23 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: dead
Reminds me of the old Steve Martin bit about how to be a millionaire:

"First, get a million dollars. Second..."

J. Paul Getty's advice on How to Get Rich:

Follow these three steps:

1. Wake up early every morning.
2. Work hard.
3. Find oil.

16 posted on 10/15/2009 7:25:44 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: listenhillary

I agree with Lester. The more gasbags like him speak, the hotter it gets around here.


17 posted on 10/15/2009 7:26:32 AM PDT by cartervt2k
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To: listenhillary

according to Weather.com, at this moment it is 1 degree Celsius in Uxbridge with a frost warning


18 posted on 10/15/2009 7:31:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: JudyinCanada
Anyone I have met from Uxbridge can pretty much be ignored. They all seem to be rabid elitist socialists.

Yep, and dumber than a sack of hammers.

19 posted on 10/15/2009 7:41:27 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: listenhillary

Lester Brown is an idiot. I guess everyone has already forgot how he predicted that by the late 1990’s China’s development meant that they were going to eat the world out of grains and meat - with ensuing food riots, wars, etc...

Still waiting....


20 posted on 10/15/2009 7:42:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: JudyinCanada

Yes they are. Totally insane lunatic socialists.


21 posted on 10/15/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: listenhillary
His most recent book is "Plan B 4.0: Mobilizing to Save Civilization", the fourth and perhaps most urgent version of the Plan B series...

Note to Mr. Brown: switch to "Plan 9 from Outer Space". In your case, it would be an upgrade...

22 posted on 10/15/2009 7:46:50 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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Note to Mr. Brown: switch to "Plan 9 from Outer Space". In your case, it would be an upgrade...

Hey, I liked that movie, cheesy as it is!

"Battlefield: Earth" would be more appropriate, since it also is written by a self-styled religious zealot.

23 posted on 10/15/2009 7:49:12 AM PDT by ssaftler (Borg Queen Obama: Resistance is futile!)
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To: listenhillary
Quick, everybody! Paint the roofs of everything white! And turn on your air-conditioners and open all the windows!

That's the ticket!

The above scientific solution hereby qualifies me as the winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize in Science.

24 posted on 10/15/2009 7:54:53 AM PDT by kromike
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To: listenhillary
And I say we cant afford to let the planet get any cooler!

So fire up those SUV’s and build those coal fired plants ASAP! we have got to save the planet from the next Iceage!

25 posted on 10/15/2009 7:57:28 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: listenhillary

26 posted on 10/15/2009 8:32:11 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: listenhillary
80 percent CO2 reduction in 11 years? Ummm...

If that happens, then what will the plants and trees survive on?

27 posted on 10/15/2009 8:53:49 AM PDT by marvlus
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

28 posted on 10/15/2009 8:57:09 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison!)
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He is referring to Man’s CO2 input into the environment. He’s still a dumb ass.

Linking health, wealth, and well being with the use of energy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2361170/posts

But what about the net effect of economic development on developing countries?

Indeed, human well-being has also advanced for developing countries. Consider, for example, that:

* The proportion of the developing world’s population living in absolute poverty (i.e., living on less than $1.25 per day in 2005 dollars), was halved from 52 percent to 26 percent between 1981 and 2005. Ironically, higher food prices, partly because of the diversion of crops to biofuels in response to climate change policies, helped push 130-155 million people into absolute poverty in 2008. This is equivalent to 2.5–3.0% of the developing world’s population.
* The proportion of the developing world’s population suffering from chronic hunger had declined from around 30-35 percent in 1969-1971 to 16 percent in 2003-2005. It has since increased to 18% —thanks, once again, in part to climate change policies designed to displace fossil fuels with biofuels (see here, p. 10-11). The UN Food and Agricultural Organization estimates that such policies helped increase the number of people in the developing world suffering from chronic hunger by 75 million in 2007 compared to the 2003-2005 period.
* Life expectancy in developing countries increased from 25-30 years in 1900 to 41 years in the early 1950s to 69 years today.
* Child labor in low income countries declined from 30 to 18 percent between 1960 and 2003.


29 posted on 10/15/2009 9:00:59 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: listenhillary
He is referring to Man’s CO2 input into the environment. He’s still a dumb ass.

I understand that, I was being somewhat sarcastic. However, I heard just the other day that due to higher levels of CO2, we have more plant life now than we have had in a long, long time. CO2 is the food for plants. I don't currently have anything to back up what I heard, but I can see it being logical.

30 posted on 10/15/2009 9:16:02 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: marvlus

See the link at #29


31 posted on 10/15/2009 9:18:54 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: marvlus

That may have not been the link I was looking for. I remember seeing something that said that food production was 12% higher than it would be without the human input of CO2.


32 posted on 10/15/2009 9:25:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: listenhillary

What did his Band of Renown say?


33 posted on 10/15/2009 9:44:45 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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What did his Band of Renown say?

LOL! I think we're dating ourselves, though.

34 posted on 10/15/2009 10:00:53 AM PDT by Shethink13
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To: listenhillary
He was originally a farmer in NJ.

Note how the cows labeled Farmer Brown's head.

35 posted on 10/15/2009 10:04:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Can't believe I used to read his stuff.

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36 posted on 10/16/2009 12:18:44 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Hussein Obama: the country's greatest firearms salesman!)
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No mention of nuclear. He’s a faker, even of his own moronic beliefs. Pretty sad, when you can’t even sincerely believe WRONG ideas.


37 posted on 10/16/2009 7:08:40 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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