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Here are some answers to often asked questions of anti-gunners
backwoodshome.com ^ | 15 October, 2009 | Massad Ayoob

Posted on 10/15/2009 5:03:46 AM PDT by marktwain

It has become increasingly politically incorrect to be a firearms owner. This is because trends tend to be set by the fashionable and the media-connected in metropolitan environments. Gun ownership per capita is well under 50% in urban areas of this country. Nationwide, it is estimated that one half of all homes contain at least one firearm. As the demographics move into rural areas, gun ownership well exceeds that 50% margin, and on the frontiers and in the true backwoods home, gun ownership will generally be found to reach the 90th percentile of the population.

When your beliefs and values are challenged, you want ready answers. The following have worked for me when debating the civil rights of gun owners in this country.

* Isn’t the Second Amendment about the National Guard?

Frankly, no. Serious legal scholars have almost universally agreed that the Second Amendment speaks to the rights of the citizens, not the rights of the states or other communities. Doesn’t it seem incongruous that the Framers would have written one states’ rights amendment into a Bill of Rights that otherwise speaks entirely to the rights of individuals?

Besides, consider that the document in question was written at a time when the gunfire of the American Revolution was still ringing in the ears of the Framers. A “national guard” of the period would have been Tories loyal to King George, hardly an entity the freedom fighters who wrote the Bill of Rights would have wanted to empower.

Historically, you’ll also find that the constitutions written by the separate colonies prior to the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights spoke of firearms ownership specifically as an individual right encompassing personal protection, and not just a tool to facilitate state militias.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; constitution; gun; shallnotbeinfringed
Massad is a good writer.
1 posted on 10/15/2009 5:03:46 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Good post.....


2 posted on 10/15/2009 5:06:14 AM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: marktwain

—good article, but I generally disagree with the first sentence—


3 posted on 10/15/2009 5:16:46 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: marktwain

Make sure (everyone that enters the thread) to read the article, Massad makes good points as always. They are the usual tired old arguments and stupid questions that he patiently answers. I guess that is necessary, to just keep answering them but it sure gets old after awhile.


4 posted on 10/15/2009 5:19:30 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

Fine, he answers the “questions” that anti-gunners have.
IE, the excuses they give for their emotionally arrived at conclusions.

Folks need to understand this about leftists. They arrive at their conclusions about various issues in order to support their worldview. They didn’t arrive at those conclusions through the erroneous points & wrongly answered questions that they put forth as justification post-conclusion.


5 posted on 10/15/2009 5:22:55 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: marktwain

It’s much simpler than he makes it:

- I’m NOT obligated to set myself up for victim status.
- I have the right of self-defense.
- Gun free zones have higher violent crime rates.
- Cities and States that relax gun control laws ALWAYS see a drop in violent crime.


6 posted on 10/15/2009 5:26:34 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: marktwain

Massad is always helpful,but check this:
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=29695674542


7 posted on 10/15/2009 5:35:24 AM PDT by Phantom4
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To: rellimpank
It has become increasingly politically incorrect to be a firearms owner.

I agree on both points – it's a good article and the comment about being ‘un-PC’ as a gun owner.

The past almost 11 months have shown a tremendous increase in the sales of firearms and ammunition. It can't all be going to people who already owned firearms before the ‘Zero era’.

The more people that own them, the more mainstream it becomes.

Good article to Bookmark.

8 posted on 10/15/2009 7:02:54 AM PDT by chainsaw56 (Do you have the right to defend yourself??)
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To: marktwain

Massad is making a pivotal mistake in assuming anti-2A types will listen to rational, logical, well researched arguments. The vast majority are self destructive lemmings who demand everyone else join them in jumping off the cliff. If you refuse they see nothing wrong w/ the govt shooting you because of it. Hows that for ‘logic’?


9 posted on 10/15/2009 7:18:11 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: chainsaw56

—and somewhere recently, I saw an article which expounded on the thesis that the “assault weapons” hoo-rah over the last twenty years or so has “mainstreamed” them, as it were, with which I totally agree also—


10 posted on 10/15/2009 7:25:07 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: marktwain

Massad is an excellent teacher.


11 posted on 10/15/2009 8:24:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: marktwain
Q: Isn’t a gun just a phallic symbol?

A: If it was, no man would ever have bought one with a two inch barrel.I must have laughed for two minutes over that one!

12 posted on 10/15/2009 8:35:16 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: 556x45
Massad is making a pivotal mistake in assuming anti-2A types will listen to rational, logical, well researched arguments.

As someone else observed, "Logic will not get a person out of a position that logic did not get them into".

13 posted on 10/15/2009 9:01:39 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain

When the crap hits the fan and civil war breaks out, where will the anti-gun people go for shelter?


14 posted on 10/15/2009 10:07:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: marktwain
I realize that leftists aren't swayed by logic or facts, but speaking to his point about the 2nd Amendment being a "militia" clause.

The Constitution speaks directly to the subject of militias.

Article I Section 8. The Congress shall have power ...

 To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

 To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

15 posted on 10/15/2009 10:37:34 AM PDT by zeugma (Life is short. Thank God.)
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To: zeugma
Hit 'post' too soon... What I was going to as was what sense does the 2nd amendment make in the context of arming the 'militia', when the body of the Constitution specifically authorizes Congress "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia",...?
16 posted on 10/15/2009 10:40:05 AM PDT by zeugma (Life is short. Thank God.)
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To: rellimpank

Yeah it’s about, what, 17 years out of date?

All the good momentum is our way, has been for a while now. Push more.


17 posted on 10/15/2009 11:53:30 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: MrB

That’s true MrB, I’ve dealt with this anti-hunting, fishing, anti-gun crowd for many years. Logic has no bearing whatsoever.

Another erroneous belief is that “oh surely we can all get along and ‘debate’ the issues like reasonable people”. Nope. There is no reasoning with that crowd, nor is there “debate”, only surrender and I don’t feel like surrendering...


18 posted on 10/15/2009 12:35:46 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

There is no reasoning with someone that insists on your enslavement and submission.

Libs are SO like Muslims in this regard.


19 posted on 10/15/2009 12:41:31 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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