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America's Most Dangerous Politician:New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson (2012?)
Reason Magazine ^ | January 1, 2001 | Michael W. Lynch

Posted on 10/13/2009 12:57:15 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian

I’ve been in New Mexico less than 10 minutes when I realize that no ordinary politician rules the Land of Enchantment. After the young woman working the rental car counter discovers I need wheels to visit her very own governor, she starts talking excitedly and positively about his efforts to pass a school choice bill. One of her co-workers, a Democratic activist, tries to straighten her out, and the conversation soon grows to include other employees, all of whom are surprisingly well-informed due to the governor’s high-profile efforts to pass a statewide voucher program. The Democrat wants to make something else clear about New Mexico’s top pol: She doesn’t appreciate his crusade for drug legalization. Struggling to come up with the worst possible epithet, she finally spits out, "I think he’s a liberal," adding that as one he embarrasses her state. (Such is the New West that even Democrats think of liberals as lower than rattlesnakes.)

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2012; garyjohnson; johnson; johnson2012; moralabsolutes
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Raise recently as a possible 2012 candidate.

He's no liberal; certainly a libertarian in the fiscal-conservative since. Anti-drug, but anti-war-on-drugs.

A non-crazy Ron Paul, perhaps?

Pretty good speaker; I've seen him.

1 posted on 10/13/2009 12:57:16 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Huh? Is this the same Gary Johnson who was gov before?


2 posted on 10/13/2009 1:00:04 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: Frantzie

Yes, a 2012 PRESIDENTIAL candidate.

Note, not endorsing the guy, but he lowered taxes, balanced the budget, and left us alone. That’s OK.


3 posted on 10/13/2009 1:02:21 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Spare me... he’s too busy being Peter Pan and shacking up with some Santa Fe hardbody that he cheated on his late wife with.

The guy’s an idiot. Even his dad Earl said he didn’t know what the hell he was doing while he was Gov.


4 posted on 10/13/2009 1:02:36 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Why does Reason magazine have a UN flag on it’s website?


5 posted on 10/13/2009 1:05:29 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

He is certainly more libertarian than conservative.

(e.g., on abortion he says “state issue”).

Can’t blame a guy for a Sante Fe Hardbody. Enjoyed those myself.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 1:06:38 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Odd...

I did a Google search "mexico governor gary johnson girlfriend" it came back with nothing.

7 posted on 10/13/2009 1:07:06 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: FrdmLvr

Why are you asking me?


8 posted on 10/13/2009 1:07:09 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: raybbr

It was barely reported in the local news.


9 posted on 10/13/2009 1:08:03 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: raybbr

It is common knowledge in New Mexico that, VERY shortly after his divorce proceedings started, he had a new girlfriend.

No idea if she really is a Sante Fe Hard Body. But that’s a good thing.


10 posted on 10/13/2009 1:08:30 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Was he governor at the time?


11 posted on 10/13/2009 1:08:42 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

From his CATO speech:

I’d like to end this talk with my “Seven Principles of Good Government.” This is something that I authored when I took office and you’ll find that these principles dictate everything that I do.

Become reality driven. Don’t kid yourself or others. Find out what’s what and base your decisions and actions on that.

Always be honest and tell the truth. It’s extremely difficult to do any damage to anybody when you are willing to tell the truth—regardless of the consequences.

Always do what’s right and fair. Remember, the more you actually accomplish, the louder your critics become. You’ve got to learn to ignore your critics. You’ve got to continue to do what you think is right. You’ve got to maintain your integrity.

Determine your goal, develop a plan to reach that goal, and then act. Don’t procrastinate.

Make sure everybody who ought to know what you’re doing knows what you’re doing. Communicate.

Don’t hesitate to deliver bad news. There is always time to salvage things. There is always time to fix things. Henry Kissinger said that anything that can be revealed eventually should be revealed immediately.

Last, be willing to do whatever it takes to get your job done. If you’ve got a job that you don’t love enough to do what it takes to get your job done, then quit and get one that you do love, and then make a difference.


12 posted on 10/13/2009 1:10:13 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Frantzie
Huh? Is this the same Gary Johnson who was gov before?

The article is dated 2001. Richardson was elected in '02.

13 posted on 10/13/2009 1:11:13 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: TheThirdRuffian

We should print that out and hand it all politicians.


14 posted on 10/13/2009 1:11:26 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Abortion is a state’s rights issue.


15 posted on 10/13/2009 1:11:32 PM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Yeah, but cheat on your wife? Kick her to the curb because she has health problems and can’t keep up with you on the ski slopes anymore? Never mind she was the brains behind Big J suceeding early on.

With Gary, it’s all about Gary.


16 posted on 10/13/2009 1:12:23 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: raybbr

No.


17 posted on 10/13/2009 1:12:57 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: misterrob

Agreed. But he is Governor of a state. What does he think his state should do?


18 posted on 10/13/2009 1:14:09 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: misterrob

I generally agree, but, if you recall Fred Thompson was called “pro-abortion” by Huckabee supporters for taking the same state-rights position.

I suspect his libertarian tendancies will kill his ability to get past social conservatives.


19 posted on 10/13/2009 1:14:41 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Note, not endorsing the guy, but he lowered taxes, balanced the budget, and left us alone.

That's about 7/8 of the battle right there. I could totally live with that.

20 posted on 10/13/2009 1:15:11 PM PDT by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Was governor; he was term-limited out.

(And left politics to go back to construction business.)


21 posted on 10/13/2009 1:16:08 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: SoDak

“That’s about 7/8 of the battle right there. I could totally live with that.”

I could, too.

But could the “Moral Absolutes” crowd get behind a states rights, libertarian-leaning Republican?


22 posted on 10/13/2009 1:17:26 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: raybbr
The guy in question:



Looks normal enough.
23 posted on 10/13/2009 1:20:08 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
But could the “Moral Absolutes” crowd get behind a states rights, libertarian-leaning Republican?

Of course not, because they like Big Government...they just want to start using it for their own ends.

The South and the West have a fundamental disconnect on this that is going to challenge Republican Presidential candidates for a long time to come.

24 posted on 10/13/2009 1:20:33 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

He’s been doing the ponytail thing since leaving office.


25 posted on 10/13/2009 1:20:59 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: SoDak

On the issues:

Limited Government
Gary is a staunch advocate of limited government and fiscal restraint. He believes that “every law passed is a little bite out of freedom,” and that removing government regulation unleashes the forces of the free market that raise our living standards. As Governor of New Mexico, he cut the rate of government growth in half, balanced the budget deficit, left the state government with 1200 fewer employees, and vetoed 750 bills (more than all the other 49 Governors in the country at that time, combined).

Lower Taxes
Gary supports much lower taxes, and fought relentlessly against a Democratic state legislature for all kinds of tax breaks, including significant income tax reductions. As Governor, he was able to achieve a reduction in taxes of $123 million annually, and gave New Mexico the longest period in its history without a tax hike (eight years).

National Defense
Gary believes in returning to the responsible, Constitutional foreign policy advocated by our country’s Founders. He endorses a strong and capable military that is not stretched thin over 700 bases around the world in 150 different countries. He opposed the Iraq War from the start, and believes that American men and women should only be sent into harm’s way when our national security is truly threatened and military action is truly justified.

Sound Banks, Sound Money
Gary supports Congressman Ron Paul’s efforts to open up transparency and accountability of the nation’s central monetary planner, the Federal Reserve. Gary believes that the free market can do a better job at setting interest rates and ensuring a stable financial system than can a handful of unelected bureaucrats. He recognizes the importance of having a strong Dollar that is not debased by reckless monetary inflation.

Quality Education
Gary believes that quality education is the key to our children’s future, and understands the need for a sleeker and more effective education system. As Governor of New Mexico, Gary reduced government expenditures, but increased the percentage of the budget devoted to providing better education. Gary fought hard, year after year, to bring a state-wide school voucher system to New Mexico, but while continually thwarted by his state’s Democratic legislature, he did manage to attract many new parochial and private schools into the state. Gary understands that the forces of free competition are needed to help drive down education costs.

More Effective Drug Policy
Gary has been a leader of the movement toward a new, more effective drug policy that is more in line with conservative principles of fiscal discipline, limited government, and personal responsibility. Gary advocates an end to the failed prohibition of the past seventy years, and an honest discussion about the drug issue with America’s youth. While Gary himself abstains from all drugs, including nicotene and alcohol, he recognizes that the billions of dollars wasted on a big-government anti-drug policy have not been responsibly invested.

Protecting the Unborn
While Gary himself is personally pro-choice, he understands the proper role of government, and would return the abortion issue back to the 50 states to decide, as the US Constitution mandates. As Governor of New Mexico, he received the endorsement of the Right To Life Committee for his work in reducing abortions through parental consent, informed consent, banning partial-birth abortion, and ending Medicaid funding for abortions. As Governor, he supported every piece of legislation offered by the Right To Life Committee.

Free Trade
Gary wholeheartedly supports free trade, and understands that people free to make voluntary transactions will do so precisely because they are mutually beneficial. Gary understands that free trade benefits all countries involved and helps expand the division of labor. Gary also recognizes the need for American industry to become more open and competitive as the global economy emerges.

New Energy Sources
Gary believes that states, and not the federal government, must play the pivotal role in electrical power decisions. Gary believes that the government ought to enable new exploration and development of the full spectrum of promising energy resources. He also supports federal tax incentives for companies who want to develop new sources of energy, and believes that free market forces must come into play to reduce energy costs and increase the efficiency with which energy is delivered.

Freedom to Bear Arms
Gary believes in the individual right to bear arms and upholds the US Constitution and its Second Amendment which protect that right. Gary understands the clear crime prevention benefits of gun ownership and the freedom to carry a concealed firearm for self defense.

http://www.johnsonforamerica.com/


26 posted on 10/13/2009 1:22:55 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Why do people keep projecting Dems as running in 2012? Presidents don’t get opposed in the primaries for their re-election, not unless the party has completely imploded, while that would be nice I don’t think it’s happening.


27 posted on 10/13/2009 1:24:27 PM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

“What does he think his state should do?”

It’s pretty libertarian/states rights:

Protecting the Unborn
While Gary himself is personally pro-choice, he understands the proper role of government, and would return the abortion issue back to the 50 states to decide, as the US Constitution mandates. As Governor of New Mexico, he received the endorsement of the Right To Life Committee for his work in reducing abortions through parental consent, informed consent, banning partial-birth abortion, and ending Medicaid funding for abortions. As Governor, he supported every piece of legislation offered by the Right To Life Committee.


28 posted on 10/13/2009 1:25:26 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: discostu

“Why do people keep projecting Dems as running in 2012?”

?

He’s Republican (although certainly of the libertarian/states rights mold).


29 posted on 10/13/2009 1:26:44 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

The article only talks to Dems made me assume, guess he makes sense then. But really it’s not even time for mid-terms yet, we’ve got a couple hundred elections to try to win before 2012.


30 posted on 10/13/2009 1:28:41 PM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Thanks for posting this. GJ seems like a good candidate. I look forward to the debates in 2012.

Of course the Romney-bots will find something to criticize him for...lmao

~SC


31 posted on 10/13/2009 1:29:19 PM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: TheThirdRuffian

No.


32 posted on 10/13/2009 1:29:21 PM PDT by tuckrdout ("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I believe it was some patented discostu sarcasm there.


33 posted on 10/13/2009 1:30:54 PM PDT by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Yep, unfortunately.


34 posted on 10/13/2009 1:31:48 PM PDT by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: discostu

I agree.

I have been casting about for someone, however, for someone who has a shot against Obama.

Johnson was my Governor, and, amazingly, lowered my taxes and got the OCD (the New Mexcio EPA for oil) off my ass when I called his office. I actually ended up speaking to the Governor himself -— he called me back about ten minutes after I called.

I think he’s a bit too libertarian for National Republican politics — but I like people who mind their own business, and that’s his attitude.


35 posted on 10/13/2009 1:33:40 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
While Gary himself is personally pro-choice...

Well, there you have it.

Pro-choice. Santa Fe. Ponytail.

36 posted on 10/13/2009 1:36:49 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: wagglebee

I post to you as the keeper of the “Moral Absolutes” ping list to ask a theoretical question, not so much about this candidate, but in general:

Say you have a 2-term Republican Governor who came out of private construction business, lowered taxes 8 years straight, limited government, extreme fiscal conservative, pro-gun rights, etc., BUT

1. He took the states rights position on abortion (i.e., leave it to each state) AND

2. Was anti-drug, but pretty much opined the war on drugs was a waste of time and there more cost-effective ways to keep people off drugs.

SO HERE IS THE QUESTION:

Not so much as to this particular candidate, but could the “Moral Absolutes” crowd get behind such a states rights canidate?


37 posted on 10/13/2009 1:41:45 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Spirochete

I’ve never seen the guy in a pony tail.

But keep in mind, this IS New Mexico. Everyone has a pony tail phase.


38 posted on 10/13/2009 1:42:37 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; discostu

Looking at his issues positions and his seven principles for good government, this is a guy I could support. As to why to discuss 2012, I’d say it is just a political reality that we have arrived at the everlasting campaign mode, even for the Presidency. Probably was true even in the 1970s and it paid off pretty well for Reagan when it came time to oppose Jimmy Peanut and his Misery Index. If you believe in cyclical history, this may be the turning of the wheel.


39 posted on 10/13/2009 1:43:05 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Spirochete

You left off this part:

” . . . he understands the proper role of government, and would return the abortion issue back to the 50 states to decide, as the US Constitution mandates.”

Pretty misleading to leave that off.


40 posted on 10/13/2009 1:43:44 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

This guy vanished off the radar screen the day he left office almost 7 years ago. He has done nothing to help the NM GOP.


41 posted on 10/13/2009 1:45:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I guess it’s more or less rhetorical. You were on the first reply (because you posted it). I’m just very surprized that Reason has a UN flag. I can’t tell it it’s an ad or part of their website, but either way....maybe someone else knows.


42 posted on 10/13/2009 1:47:25 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

This is just my personal opinion and I’m not speaking for anyone else, but I think that the candidate would certainly be viable at the state level, but not necessarily at the national level.

If a person truly believes that abortion is murder, then they also believe that the unborn baby is a human being with rights. Why would anyone believe that a state has the power to take away the rights of an innocent human being? For what it’s worth, my guess is that if Roe v. Wade is ever overturned by the Supreme Court the ruling WILL return abortion to the states, but I think the RIGHT ruling is to declare that the unborn babies are persons who enjoy constitutional rights just like everyone else.

As far as the drugs, I don’t think we need to make everything legal, but I also realize that the present policy isn’t exactly working.


43 posted on 10/13/2009 1:49:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

The way the Obama presidency is melting down I think a bag of poo has a puncher’s chance against him in 12.


44 posted on 10/13/2009 1:49:36 PM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: T-Bird45

I agree we’ve hit endless campaign, and it kind of irritates me. Campaigns are getting more boring as they get longer, Obie wasn’t even sworn in yet when the pundits started talking about the field for 2012, we used to get a good year and a half off.


45 posted on 10/13/2009 1:51:20 PM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: wagglebee

I would be curious if you could ping your list, or maybe selective members on your list, just to see.

He’s an actual, proven, fiscal conservative, which, candidly, I can’t think of any others in the RNC, except Ron Paul, and Ron Paul is insane.

This guy is PERSONALLY pro-abortion, but signed pro-life stuff as governor. (The exact opposite of the normal moral conundrum.)

As a President, his PERSONAL opinion would be irrelevant, as his intent would be to leave it to the states.


46 posted on 10/13/2009 1:53:11 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“This guy vanished off the radar screen the day he left office almost 7 years ago. He has done nothing to help the NM GOP.”

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?


47 posted on 10/13/2009 2:11:56 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

As a President, his PERSONAL opinion would be irrelevant, as his intent would be to leave it to the states.

In other words he would realize that he works for the American People. Therefore We the People are the ultimate bosses.

With the same reasoning, the late Texas Lt Gov, Bob Bullock was against term limits. There was a bill before the Texas House to overturn term limits in Texas municipalities. He blocked it. Why? He said that for example, Bob Lanier (mayor of Houston) was an example why there shouldn’t be term limits (his opinion of Bob Lanier, mind you). He added that the voters of Houston chose to have terms limits as part of their governance, and he thought the state should not meddle in that. Yes, Bob Bullock was a Dem, but his kind of Dem is just about gone.


48 posted on 10/13/2009 2:17:06 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I found his girlfriend, one Dr. Deborah Werenko, Family Practice/Endocronolgy.

She’s no beauty, but did apparently hike Mt. Everest with the guy.

FWIW, they started dating post-divorce proceedings.


49 posted on 10/13/2009 2:22:44 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: FrdmLvr

Looks to be an ad for “Norwich University”


50 posted on 10/13/2009 2:25:59 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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