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GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill
AP ^ | 10/13/09 | ERICA WERNER

Posted on 10/13/2009 10:33:31 AM PDT by presidio9

Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe broke with her party Tuesday and said she will vote for a Democratic health care bill, handing President Barack Obama a much-sought boost in his quest to expand access to medical coverage to all Americans.

Approval of the legislation by the Senate Finance Committee was a foregone conclusion going into Tuesday's vote, since Democrats outnumber Republicans 13-10 on the panel. But Snowe's decision gave the vote a significance that transcends partisan divisions. For months, congressional Republicans have been virtually unanimous in denouncing the Democratic bills as an unwarranted expansion of government influence.

The Maine senator kept virtually all of Washington guessing about how she would vote until she announced it late in the Senate Finance Committee debate Tuesday. She told her colleagues she has misgivings about the bill, but "when history calls, history calls."

Democrats, aware that Snowe could be the only Republican in Congress to vote for their health care overhaul, have spent months addressing her concerns about making health care affordable and how to pay for it.

"Ours is a balanced plan that can pass the Senate," declared Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. Health care legislation is expected to be on the Senate floor the week after next, said a spokesman for Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who must combine the Finance version with a more liberal proposal from the health committee.

The expected approval by Baucus' committee would push a remake of the U.S. health care system closer to reality than it has been in decades. Four other congressional committees finished their work before August and for months all eyes

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: 111th; baucus; rino; snowe; socializedmedicine; traitors; weasels
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1 posted on 10/13/2009 10:33:31 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Of course she is. Why is she even a Republican?


2 posted on 10/13/2009 10:35:30 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: presidio9

This chick would sign the Communist Manifesto if it was set in front of her. You know, out of bipartisanship.


3 posted on 10/13/2009 10:35:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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4 posted on 10/13/2009 10:35:35 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: presidio9

Need to freep here office now........


5 posted on 10/13/2009 10:35:53 AM PDT by ncfool (Cash for Clunkers - A big failure and Obama and rats want us to trust them with our healthcare!)
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To: presidio9

Impeach her.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 10:35:55 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

ping


7 posted on 10/13/2009 10:36:00 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: Lazamataz

She has a brain the size of a pea.


8 posted on 10/13/2009 10:36:27 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: presidio9

Get rid of her, kick her out of the GOP. Tell her to go join the totalitarian/democrat party.


9 posted on 10/13/2009 10:37:00 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: presidio9

Down with traitors!!


10 posted on 10/13/2009 10:37:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: presidio9

geez, and I thought that Obama was an attention whore...


11 posted on 10/13/2009 10:37:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: presidio9

She didn’t break with her party; she voted with her party, the party of Specter.


12 posted on 10/13/2009 10:37:25 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: presidio9
wow, what a shock. She's a Republican....why? Oh that's right cause she's pro-life, for lower taxes and believes in the individual over the collective...

Thank God Obama won or we'd have McAssh#le shoving this bipartisan cr#p down our throat.

It's on in the next election. No money for RINO's.... she's a traitor that Maine can be proud of. Enjoy the moment.

13 posted on 10/13/2009 10:37:58 AM PDT by erman (Give a man a fire, warm him for one night. Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.)
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To: presidio9

wooo.Shock.
Move along,nothing to see here....just make sure she sees the door in 2010.


14 posted on 10/13/2009 10:39:14 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: presidio9
Snowe needs to join Spector and she should take Collins with her.

Riding the GOP of Rinos is step one towards the rebirth of conservatism within the political arena.

15 posted on 10/13/2009 10:40:15 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: presidio9
She told her colleagues she has misgivings about the bill, but "when history nature calls, history nature calls."
16 posted on 10/13/2009 10:41:19 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: presidio9
Last-minute changes made subsidies more generous and softened the penalties for those who don't comply with a proposed new mandate for everyone to buy insurance. The latter change drew the ire of the health insurance industry, which said that without a strong and enforceable requirement, not enough people would get insured and premiums would jump for everyone else.

This sort of thing is just a bad joke. I've heard today the penalties for an individual not buying insurance will now be around $200 to $400. That won't motivate anyone to spend several thousand on a policy.

Not approving any part of this nonsense, but now they begin compromising and cutting away the features they claimed would help bring about cost savings. Compromising their own "principals" underlying the plan just to get something passed.

The recipe for even greater disasters.

17 posted on 10/13/2009 10:42:34 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Reagan Man

What did Obama promise her?


18 posted on 10/13/2009 10:42:40 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: presidio9
Poor Olympia, her addled soul is already forcing it's way onto her face. Soon she will sport the same sour puss as her sisters, Nancy, Barbara and Dianne.
19 posted on 10/13/2009 10:42:49 AM PDT by Hans (th)
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To: presidio9
PS: Check closely her bank accounts.
20 posted on 10/13/2009 10:43:26 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: presidio9

Thelma & Louise..

just a couple of stinky old beavers.


21 posted on 10/13/2009 10:44:06 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: presidio9

She didn’t break with her party; she voted with her party, the party of Specter.


22 posted on 10/13/2009 10:44:32 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: presidio9
She told her colleagues she has misgivings about the bill, but "when history calls, history calls."

What brilliant 'logic' the Senator from Maine is using.

23 posted on 10/13/2009 10:44:44 AM PDT by Will88
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To: A CA Guy

Bill Nelson (D) in Florida is also voting yes. I can definitely say I am not surprised. He votes against America 24/7.


24 posted on 10/13/2009 10:45:23 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (OBAMANOCARE: No Privacy, No Choice, No Humanity, No Quality, No Health, No Life)
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To: presidio9

Oympia Snow Job


25 posted on 10/13/2009 10:45:24 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: presidio9

Paging Gomer Pyle, paging Private Gomer Pyle, please pick up the nearest white courtesy phone.

26 posted on 10/13/2009 10:47:19 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Will88

A mandate to compel poeple to buy insurance is a tax for being alive. The last time I checked, life was A RIGHT!!!!!!!! The violates the 13th Amendment. It makes us Indentured Servants to the Insurance Business which will be run by the government. F*ing Facists.


27 posted on 10/13/2009 10:47:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Reagan Man

Collins at least had the grace to say no.

Snowe? Whats her freakin problem???

How can she think this is anything except a train wtreck on the American people??????


28 posted on 10/13/2009 10:49:14 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: gimme1ibertee
Move along,nothing to see here....just make sure she sees the door in 2010.

As if this were the first time the rest of the country was seriously pissed off with her. Snowe was the reason Bill Clinton was aquitted of perjury charges and not removed from office. People from Maine are weird.

BTW, Time Magazine named Snowe one of America's "10 Best Senators" in 2006.

29 posted on 10/13/2009 10:51:30 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: presidio9

She has it made. The people in Maine like her, at least most of them do.


30 posted on 10/13/2009 10:51:33 AM PDT by stevem
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To: presidio9

Well, and why shouldn’t she?

1. Her constituents are liberal and will like this. Never mind the rest of the country; they don’t vote for her.

2. She has done this before, voting for the Porkulus bill, and she was not punished the least little bit by the Republican Senate leadership. So they have as good as toldl her that she has nothing to lose now. In fact, they probably HAVE told her.

3. Obama will doubtless give her a nice helping of pork as her reward.

The loose link here ought to be #2. But the Republican leadership is totally spineless and stupid. They have no principles and no understanding of basic politics.

Either they need to go, or we need a new party to replace them. And we can’t afford to wait around beyond the next election.


31 posted on 10/13/2009 10:51:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: presidio9

THROW..........HER........OUT........DO IT NOW!!!! BEFORE THE VOTE....DENY THESE BASTADS THEIR PARTISAN VICTORY...MAKE IT ALL THEIRS AND ONLY THEIRS ( cap lock to emphisize my rage )


32 posted on 10/13/2009 10:54:45 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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To: presidio9; Lazamataz; ncfool; Para-Ord.45; Reagan Man; massgopguy

Here is the Letter I am sending Senators today.

Health Care Reform Attacks Constitutional Rights

Only the most vacuous arguments and legislative devices support the concept Obama’s and Congress’ health care initiatives are fiscally credible or sustainable. Yet abundant evidence supports questioning this spending initiative. Obama grew Bush’s $2 trillion in bailouts to over $20 trillion. He dwarfed Bush’s seven page $168 billion stimulus bill with 657 pages and $787 billion of printed money the Congressional Budget Office found singularly un-stimulating. Congress has underwritten every initiative without a question or even reading the legislation. Why would any federal elected official or bureaucrat now demonstrate the willingness or capacity to act responsibly?

However, the most treacherous part of these initiatives is the explosion of Federal administrative law, which confiscates authority over 16% of our GDP. Administrative law attacks the soft underbelly of our Constitution. Health care legislation incrementally forfeits speech and religious freedoms, personal life without access to courts and trial, and rights protected but undefined by the Constitution.

Legislative impact on end of life decisions and directions for health care rationing provide confirmation of diminished human rights. To discover Congressional intentions, legislation must be evaluated after metastasizing throughout the U.S. Code. The bills profoundly impact diverse bureaucracies including the IRS, but an analysis covering HHS will be sufficient.

The stimulus bill created the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology and the Health Information Technology Research Centers. These bureaucracies duplicate private sector information bases that utilize computer technologies for coordination and flow of recommendations and policies for medical knowledge. The HHS Secretary will use these bureaucracies to implement Congressional intent.

Decisions will be guided by a panel exceeding 20 members allowing the dominate political regime over 90% of appointments, while requiring only one physician. Among three separate reports, one evaluation must include health technologies meeting senior and disabled individual needs. Health care provider participation becomes mandatory under Section 13112 of the HITACT Act, if one participates in any government program, including Medicare serving seniors and disabled.

Regulations developed reflect the momentum of congressional intent; not the will of the people. The regulations would utilize disquieting legislative provisions to incorporate ideas politicians articulate in Congress, but consider too sensitive for public debate. Medical professionals would join other private sector professionals such as education financial aid directors and CPA’s I know, who often serve as federal agents instead of client advocates.

Princeton bioethics professor Peter Singer recently presented in the New York Times Congressional intent without equivocation. “Rationing health care means getting value for the billions spent by setting limits on which treatments should be paid for from the public purse….There’s no doubt that it’s tough – politically, emotionally, and ethically - to make a decision that means that someone will die sooner than they would have if the decision had gone the other way….If the U.S. system spent less on expensive treatments for those who, with or without drugs, have at most a few months to live, it would be better able to save lives of more people who, if they get the treatment they need, might live for several decades….The task of health care bureaucrats is then to get the best value for resources they have been allocated….If a teenager can be expected to live another 70 years, saving that life gains 70 years, whereas a person of 85 can be expected to live another 5 years, then saving the 85-year-old will gain of only 5 life-years. That suggests saving one teenager is equivalent to saving 14 85-year-olds”.

Physicians currently discuss end of life issues when explaining proposed procedures and drugs, so legislation only confiscates privacy and freedom. Worthwhile initiatives would locate dialogue and diagnosis with families, nurses, and doctors; not with lawyers, insurance companies, academics, and bureaucrats. However, such suggestions are neither contemplated nor appreciated.

I really wonder if we the people are ready to embrace government rationed health care in order to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. I for one do not take Congress’, Obama’s, and other’s assurances about voluntary end of life counseling at face value. Instead I choose my rights under the Constitution, even though they involve only the opportunity to succeed, with uncertainties and hardships along the way.


33 posted on 10/13/2009 10:56:04 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: massgopguy
A mandate to compel poeple to buy insurance is a tax for being alive. The last time I checked, life was A RIGHT!!!!!!!! The violates the 13th Amendment. It makes us Indentured Servants to the Insurance Business which will be run by the government. F*ing Facists

There is no good outcome for any of this. The loss of rights mushroomimg national debt might cause could dwarf the rights lost by being required people to buy insurance. It's all a disaster, but my point is, if passed like this, their plan will create even bigger deficits and debt, and even greater threats to our rights and national sovereignty. And they are weakening the provisions the "claimed" would cut overall costs. Prostitutes on a street corner.

The good outcome is for this to be defeated. It's all just degrees of

34 posted on 10/13/2009 10:56:33 AM PDT by Will88
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To: presidio9

Who does that surprise?


35 posted on 10/13/2009 10:57:02 AM PDT by sport
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To: Para-Ord.45

If the GOP had any stones, she would already have been gone. They don’t and she isn’t.

I will NEVER, NEVER vote for another RINO as long as I live. I voted for McCain only because of Palin, but I won’t do it again no matter who a RINO puts on his/her ticket.


36 posted on 10/13/2009 10:58:49 AM PDT by alarm rider (The left always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: A CA Guy

The blood suckers of this society - the non-producers, welfare scum, union thugs, bureaucrats, know-nothing academics, and other assorted vermin are in charge now. They’ll do their best, which will include law breaking wherever necessary, to keep themselves there. For a while they will eat up the fruits of our labor, demanding more and more as poverty increases, until those who produce, who build up and maintain the structure of society, are so weak and emaciated that it all comes crashing down.

When the sh@t hits the fan, become predator, not prey.


37 posted on 10/13/2009 10:59:39 AM PDT by roses of sharon (THE ONION FOLDS in light of the Obama Peace Prize... "We officially cannot top that.")
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To: Para-Ord.45

I hope I am wrong but the connection doesn’t look good!
Did we just see a payoff for Snowe’s vote by appointing John R. McKernan, husband of Sen. Olympia Snowe, (R) Maine to the board of Directors to Chicago based Borg Warner Corp.?

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=33390&seenIt=1
:...Chicago-based BorgWarner Inc., which makes most of its sales to the Detroit Three, has been cutting hourly staff just about every month. Kay Manufacturing Co. of Calumet City was nearly paralyzed in December due to a lack of orders...”

Search ResultsBorgWarner Appoints John R. McKernan Jr. to Board of Directors ...
29 Jul 2009 ... AUBURN HILLS, Mich., July 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — BorgWarner (NYSE: BWA) announced today that John McKernan, 61, has been named to its ...
www.reuters.com/.../idUS240750+29-Jul-2009+PRN20090729 - Cached - Similar


38 posted on 10/13/2009 10:59:57 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: presidio9

Lets hope global warming deploys a glacier over the entire state of Maine destroying every living thing in it. Just as a token of our appreciation for their gift of the not lovely and not gracious Sen. Snow


39 posted on 10/13/2009 11:02:14 AM PDT by Breto
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To: presidio9

Worthless skank. Send her packing.


40 posted on 10/13/2009 11:02:32 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: presidio9
Do I even have to?


41 posted on 10/13/2009 11:02:37 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: presidio9

She wants to see her face hear her voice on tv. She is a poster child for term limits.


42 posted on 10/13/2009 11:05:01 AM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I do not support the denigration of peas


43 posted on 10/13/2009 11:05:06 AM PDT by Breto
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To: presidio9

It’ll be interesting to see what she got for selling her butthole to the Dems *this* time.


44 posted on 10/13/2009 11:05:31 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

If you want to punish Senator Snowe and pull her back to the right, there are two priorities:

1. help elect GOP governors in Virginia and New Jersey in three weeks

2. help defeat Blanche Lincoln and Harry Reid in 2010


45 posted on 10/13/2009 11:09:51 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: presidio9
I suspect she will be the next defection to the RAT party, so doesn't really matter if her constituents say they won't vote for her!

She'll be the new HERO for the RAT party!

46 posted on 10/13/2009 11:10:55 AM PDT by blondee123 (Welcome to life under Obama Bin Lyin!)
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To: presidio9
"handing President Barack Obama a much-sought boost in his quest to expand access to medical coverage socialism to all Americans."

Thanks Olympia. Don't let the door hit ya on the butt on the way out...
47 posted on 10/13/2009 11:24:32 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: mwl8787

HEAR, HEAR!!


48 posted on 10/13/2009 11:25:06 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: presidio9

Health care stock getting shellacked now. Down 3-8% across the board. 5-year lows in some of them by year’s end.


49 posted on 10/13/2009 11:27:59 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: presidio9

Ugly people vote with OTHER UGLY PEOPLE!


50 posted on 10/13/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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