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Vet Kills Himself After Being Carded At Movie Theater
AP/theindychannel.com ^ | 10/13/2009 | Unknown

Posted on 10/13/2009 6:32:27 AM PDT by Abathar

MUNCIE, Ind. -- A 21-year-old military veteran fatally shot himself inside a central Indiana movie theater shortly after he argued with employees over being asked to produce ID to see an R-rated film, police said.

Muncie police said no one else was hurt at the theater, including the man's two brothers, a friend and eight others attending the horror comedy "Zombieland."

(Excerpt) Read more at theindychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: oifveterans; ptsd; suicide
Prayers for his family.
1 posted on 10/13/2009 6:32:27 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

Selfish bastard


2 posted on 10/13/2009 6:33:53 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: al baby

That’s why I offered prayers for his family, he is a selfish bastard to do that.


3 posted on 10/13/2009 6:36:12 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

I guess that was the last straw......sad.....


4 posted on 10/13/2009 6:36:15 AM PDT by Fawn
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To: Abathar
I wonder what was really troubling him to the point where this seemed like the thing to do....
5 posted on 10/13/2009 6:36:30 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: steve-b

My first thought as well.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 6:37:07 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Abathar

Headline makes it sound like he did it because he got carded. Stupid writers.


7 posted on 10/13/2009 6:37:14 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: steve-b

Don’t know, but whoever the guy was that gave his drunken buddy the loaded gun was an idiot.


8 posted on 10/13/2009 6:37:31 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

This story smells. There is more to this than getting “carded”.


9 posted on 10/13/2009 6:37:43 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Abathar
Suicide is the last resort of the godless who do not know that the God of Israel is living and sovereign and created mankind by Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
Atheists liberals have no hope because they do not believe God's Scriptures and so they fail to understand the love of God for them as they go their own way and do what is right in their own eyes.
Godless atheirst liberalism destroys mens souls.
10 posted on 10/13/2009 6:37:51 AM PDT by kindred (Facts are a stubborn thing, but people are even more stubborn and will deny facts.)
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To: US Navy Vet

agreed..something else was truly troubling this young man. For as troubled as he was, for his friend to give him a loaded gun just before this happened, is insane..


11 posted on 10/13/2009 6:39:24 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: al baby

It’s so obvious he wasn’t in his right mind... I don’t think anyone can make a judgement call on this one. What a horrendous tragedy,and in front of his brothers, friends, strangers... Ptsd ...now his bros and strangers could possibly have it as a result of this.


12 posted on 10/13/2009 6:39:45 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: al_c

Terrible headline!


13 posted on 10/13/2009 6:40:53 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: US Navy Vet

It was the trip on a hair trigger to a decision he made long before he walked into that place. Could have been something as stupid as having to pay first at a gas pump. Horrible it happened, but at least he didn’t feel the need to take anyone with him.


14 posted on 10/13/2009 6:41:20 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: kindred
Sorry, you are so wrong on your stereotyping.

Good conservative Christians also have some very down times that cause thoughts of suicide to creep into their minds.

15 posted on 10/13/2009 6:42:34 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Abathar

Maybe if they had run out of butter for his popcorn we could blame it on that as well. Pretty dumb article.


16 posted on 10/13/2009 6:44:04 AM PDT by yazoo (Conservatives believe what they see. Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: al baby

I finally got the link to work.. It doesn’t say if he did it on purpose or not. I saw ptsd in the keywords on this thread and thought it was mentioned in the article..so I retract what I wrote. Don’t know if it was ptsd, or purpose or an accident at this point.


17 posted on 10/13/2009 6:45:52 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Abathar
Engle said that witnesses indicated that the man told theater workers he had killed 18 people while in the military.

Probably delusional, too. My VA experience after Vietnam showed that those who talk big about how many "gooks they greased in 'Nam" were often cooks or supply clerks in rear areas.

18 posted on 10/13/2009 6:46:25 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Member of AARP - Armed And Really Pi$$ED!)
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To: steve-b

Hey, its a Woody Harrelson movie after all. That can wee wee up people pretty quickly.


19 posted on 10/13/2009 6:47:22 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Abathar
Dammed shame....

I saw this sort of behavior shortly after getting out in 1972. It was different then as it was much worse. We had no one to turn to and no help, but this soldier had all that and more.

Yet no one seemed to notice his pain and he ended it in the only way he knew.

21 posted on 10/13/2009 6:47:54 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: kindred

It may seem difficult to believe, but even those who know the Lord can be driven to attempt suicide by intractable and hopeless pain, emotional agony, repetitive loss, and other heartaches. God offers comfort, but we do not always have the strength to reach out and take it.

I’m familiar with the situation of a believing young woman who had lost everything—husband, house, job, child, health—and is living in physical misery. She recently tried to take her life. Have some compassion for her broken heart and body.


22 posted on 10/13/2009 6:48:52 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: Abathar

I offer prayers as well


23 posted on 10/13/2009 6:49:47 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: CholeraJoe
Yeah the guy had planned to off himself for some time, and was just looking for a trigger and a audience to make his final statement.

Depression is a devious bastard.

24 posted on 10/13/2009 6:51:13 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: US Navy Vet

“This story smells. There is more to this than getting “carded”. “

I agree, there was a lot of info left out.


25 posted on 10/13/2009 6:53:46 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes. My bet is drinking and someone thinking a handgun didn’t have a round in the chamber. But something still doesn’t sound right in this report; his claim he killed 18 men in combat. Very few if any soldiers bring up the fact they have had to kill others while in combat to strangers. It just doesn’t happen and when it does subsequent investigations usually confirms it is made up.


26 posted on 10/13/2009 6:55:54 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

So what Mos/Rate was this Vet? And what was his rank? We need to know a whole lot more about this vet.


27 posted on 10/13/2009 6:55:54 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Cold Heat
Depression is a devious bastard.

And very patient.

28 posted on 10/13/2009 6:56:14 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Member of AARP - Armed And Really Pi$$ED!)
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To: Abathar

Just another poor fool who was stupid enough to see a shrink.


29 posted on 10/13/2009 6:59:23 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: al baby

I wouldn’t say that, he obviously was deeply disturbed, maybe mental problems?


30 posted on 10/13/2009 7:00:58 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: US Navy Vet

That’s a good question too. When I read that he mentioned how”many people he killed” and that he was drunk, I originally thought he was offended at the implication that he didn’t look old enough to be there..and it reminds me of the people who say 18yr olds can go to war but not drink.

My question is whether the rest of the story will be reported. I really want to know if it was an accident or on purpose. My prayers go up for his friends, family and witnesses.. May God help them all.


31 posted on 10/13/2009 7:02:29 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Abathar

Prayers for the vet and his family.


32 posted on 10/13/2009 7:03:41 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: HD1200
It just doesn’t happen and when it does subsequent investigations usually confirms it is made up.

My thought too.

33 posted on 10/13/2009 7:06:33 AM PDT by TankerKC (No Taxation Without Lubrication)
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To: HD1200

“Yes. My bet is drinking and someone thinking a handgun didn’t have a round in the chamber”

And if true, the author of the article sounds like he or she doesn’t like guns, or enjoys being an alarmist about guns. (Hearkening to the dhs claim that vets are right wing extremists who shouldn’t have guns—you probably know what I mean)


34 posted on 10/13/2009 7:08:55 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: kindred

Are suicide missions a sin? A key advantage a religious warrior has over a non-religious one is they are more willing to accept suicide to help out their tribe. Religion is behind many suicides in this world that would not have otherwise happened. Some heroic suicides are thought to be good, at the same time the receiving end of them often consider the same actions evil.


35 posted on 10/13/2009 7:15:39 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Abathar

That any theater would card someone for an R rated film is ridiculous. As long as they look like they are past puberty. That said I doubt the altercation affected his suicide decision. Killing yourself during zombieland i’d say was a statement of sorts. Prayers for his soul.


36 posted on 10/13/2009 7:18:00 AM PDT by visualops (freeping on my palm pre)
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To: Abathar

...Just to leave the mess for someone to have to clean up.


37 posted on 10/13/2009 7:26:36 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: kindred

Thank you (NOT!) for using this tragedy as a personal soapbox.


38 posted on 10/13/2009 8:47:39 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: kindred

And how in the world would you have ANY knowledge of the condition of this young man’s soul?

He and God will sort that out- thankfully without your inteference.


39 posted on 10/13/2009 8:52:12 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


40 posted on 10/13/2009 9:34:57 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: steve-b
Suicide is indeed tragic and no one has the right to cast judgment on such individuals. I find the lack of compassion by some folks here very troubling........

Remember this young man and fellow freeper?

Trappedinliberalhell

41 posted on 10/13/2009 10:17:29 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I remember Chris. That happened about the same time a young man where I work killed himself. All very sad.


42 posted on 10/13/2009 10:22:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

bttt


43 posted on 10/13/2009 10:24:28 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: kindred

Take a flying leap!


44 posted on 10/13/2009 10:34:17 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Abathar

Dreadful. RIP.


45 posted on 10/13/2009 12:48:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: kindred

I disagree. It has nothing to do with being an atheist liberal. They can be very happy in their hedonism. Likewise, a conservative theist can be very miserable in the world and desperate to meet God.


46 posted on 10/18/2009 7:25:53 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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