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Two words: Nuclear Batteries
Yahoo Tech ^ | ct 9, 2009 | Christopher Null

Posted on 10/12/2009 12:37:11 PM PDT by anymouse

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Now comes word that nuclear batteries may actually become an honest-to-God reality, no foolin'.

Researchers at the University of Missouri say they've achieved the unthinkable, and that a pint-sized power cell based on radioactive decay can last a ridiculously long time: a million times as long as a conventional battery, enough to keep putting out a charge for hundreds of years.

Nuclear batteries already exist, but historically they have been quite large (and used only on things like spacecraft). The new design involves the use of a liquid semiconductor, which is less susceptible to damage from nuclear radiation than solid semiconductors and thus don't break down like the old models do. This also allows for the batteries to shrink in size. One prototype (seen above) is about the size of a coin.

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(Excerpt) Read more at tech.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: battery; energy; enviroweenies; nuclear
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Enviro-luddites won't let this come to be.

1 posted on 10/12/2009 12:37:11 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse

One word: Foundation


2 posted on 10/12/2009 12:39:39 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Foundation? They had Hari Seldon, we’ve got the Obamaloon.

We’re doomed.


3 posted on 10/12/2009 12:41:28 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: anymouse

Yeah, but Obama is too busy spending money on figuring out the wind powered auto.


4 posted on 10/12/2009 12:41:41 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: ShadowAce

/mark


5 posted on 10/12/2009 12:41:51 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Beta Decay light elements are as harmless as an electrical socket. (Beta Decay is basically a neutron in the nucleus of an atom turning into a electron and a Proton, the proton stays in the core of the atom, the electron gets ejected and can be absorbed by metal or a semi-conductor material to “Make” electricity. ) Beta Decay cannot be used to breed other radioactive elements.

As long as they decay into a stable or long stability isotope they should be classifies as safe as gasoline.

The tin foil that Alex Jones fans wear on their heads is all of the protection that you need against them.

Sulfur-35 is practically inert compared to the stuff in your smoke detectors (Am231).

I say we use all of the radioactive waste heavy elements to breed Massive amounts of Sulfur-35 to use it in place of diesel electric generators for the millitary.

We shouldn’t let any isotopes go to waste. Waste not want not, right?


6 posted on 10/12/2009 12:42:03 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I don’t get the smarmy narrative...


7 posted on 10/12/2009 12:43:04 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: anymouse; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

8 posted on 10/12/2009 12:45:23 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Da Coyote

>> Foundation? They had Hari Seldon, we’ve got the Obamaloon.

We’re doomed. <<

I am trying to decide weather or not the Mule was Michael Jackson or if it was a Metaphor for the Democrat Party.


9 posted on 10/12/2009 12:45:51 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: anymouse
Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed!


10 posted on 10/12/2009 12:46:53 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GraceG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule_%28Foundation%29

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The Mule is a fictional character from Isaac Asimov’s Foundation Series. One of the greatest conquerors the galaxy has ever seen, he is a mentalic who has the ability to manipulate human emotions which he uses to forcibly convert people to his cause.

<<

Sounds a lot like someone we know and everyone else “loves”

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Physically, the Mule is a freak, with a long nose (at least three inches) tightly stretched facial skin, and a spindly body. He weighs between 100 and 120 pounds (45 to 54 kg), and is 5’8” (1.73m) tall[citation needed]. His joints jut out from his diminutive musculature. The Mule’s meagerness is glandular and untreatable. Furthermore, his limbs meet at awkward angles, giving the general impression of a scarecrow assembled poorly. His eyes are described as deep brown and perpetually sad.

<<

Sounds Like Michael Jackson.


11 posted on 10/12/2009 12:48:12 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

If you don’t get it you should probably try and figure it out before deciding it was “smarmy” because well-read people do get it, and it wasn’t smarmy.


12 posted on 10/12/2009 12:48:13 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: GraceG

Fascinating. This is really exciting stuff!

How much power can these things produce? And is the limiting factor the size of the isotopic mass, or the interior surface area of the anode?


13 posted on 10/12/2009 12:48:26 PM PDT by Omedalus
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To: Always Right
Yeah, but Obama is too busy spending money on figuring out the wind powered auto.

No problem. Run a vacuum cleaner hose from his ass in the drivers seat to the intake manifold. Done. Now can we have have our nuke batteries, please?

14 posted on 10/12/2009 12:51:26 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: GraceG
Beta Decay is basically a neutron in the nucleus of an atom turning into a electron and a Proton, the proton stays in the core of the atom, the electron gets ejected and can be absorbed by metal or a semi-conductor material to “Make” electricity.

Interesting. What do you use for the other end of the circuit, to sink the electrons?

15 posted on 10/12/2009 12:53:29 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Still Thinking

The electron emission creates the negative charge and the atom retains the positive charge. You are essentially harvesting the kinetic energy of the electron being ejected from the nucleus of the atom.


16 posted on 10/12/2009 12:55:09 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I was thinking Shipstones.


17 posted on 10/12/2009 12:57:09 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: anymouse; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...

Battery Ping!!............


18 posted on 10/12/2009 12:57:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Obama is The Mule.................


19 posted on 10/12/2009 12:58:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: Da Coyote

Obama is The Mule..............


20 posted on 10/12/2009 12:58:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: anymouse

Is that glow in your pocke a flashlight, or are you just glad to see me?


21 posted on 10/12/2009 1:02:08 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

The absolute coolest car in all of human history.


22 posted on 10/12/2009 1:02:12 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Bullsh*t)
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To: anymouse

23 posted on 10/12/2009 1:06:11 PM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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To: GraceG

So where do you sink the electrons on the other side of the load?


24 posted on 10/12/2009 1:20:15 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Still Thinking

>> So where do you sink the electrons on the other side of the load? <<

That... Ummm. is above my paygrade.


25 posted on 10/12/2009 1:24:45 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: anymouse

No mention in the articles or any of the comments about how much power the battery puts out. Did I miss something?


26 posted on 10/12/2009 1:25:12 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei (quem deus vult perdere prius dementat)
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To: anymouse

Heck, I been sayin’ that for years.


27 posted on 10/12/2009 1:26:08 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: GraceG

From the time Obama was voted president, I’ve told people that he is the Mule.


28 posted on 10/12/2009 1:26:51 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

>> From the time Obama was voted president, I’ve told people that he is the Mule. <<

A mule is a cross between a Horse and a Donkey.

What about a cross between Horse-shit and a Donkey?


29 posted on 10/12/2009 1:30:08 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Whoa! I think you and I may be talking about differnt things.

I was talking about character of The Mule in the Foundation Series.


30 posted on 10/12/2009 1:36:28 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

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Whoa! I think you and I may be talking about differnt things.

I was talking about character of The Mule in the Foundation Series.

<<

Me too, I was just suppositioning that the current “Mule” in power is cross between a pile of Horse Crap and the Donkey Party.

Horse (feces) + Donkey (Democrap Party) = Mule (BHO)

Mule being the psycho in the foundation series.

Trying several levels at once.... Maybe I Fail!


31 posted on 10/12/2009 1:42:11 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: anymouse

The real question is: will Galt produce this battery, or hide it in a Gulch somewhere?


32 posted on 10/12/2009 1:44:49 PM PDT by ziravan (FReeper for Congress: www.TimothyforCongress.com)
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To: anymouse

BFL


33 posted on 10/12/2009 1:46:00 PM PDT by zeugma (Life is short. Thank God.)
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To: anymouse

If this battery breaks or leaks, is it potentially harmful?


34 posted on 10/12/2009 1:58:49 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Eric in the Ozarks
What Psycho_Bunny said. My first thought was that it was something straight out of Foundation.
35 posted on 10/12/2009 2:08:51 PM PDT by altair (I hope he fails)
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To: TheThinker

Not at all. See GraceG’s post.

However, the inherent safety of this device will do naught to permit the crybabies in the usual regulatory agencies from preventing this device’s marketization. After all, it is a misnomer to believe that their goal is safety or prosperity; their goal is consolidation and exercising of their own power, coupled with a self-hating philosophy that will effectively lead them to forbid this thing specifically *because* of its impressive utility.


36 posted on 10/12/2009 2:13:31 PM PDT by Omedalus
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To: Red Badger
Yeah, I was thinking that too, except that I don't think The Mule's ears were described in the story. The Mule was also defeated by a cigar smoking young lady. Now who could that be?
37 posted on 10/12/2009 2:14:44 PM PDT by altair (I hope he fails)
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To: GraceG

Obonkey?


38 posted on 10/12/2009 2:35:30 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: anymouse

Best thread of the day.


39 posted on 10/12/2009 3:06:23 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I do get it. The author of the piece inserted a certain level of unnecessary cynicism which constitutes smarm in my book.


40 posted on 10/12/2009 3:31:47 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: anymouse
It's all in the marketing. Forget any mention of the "N" word.

Sell them as Beta-Batteries.

41 posted on 10/12/2009 4:12:24 PM PDT by StevieB
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To: Always Right
He still hasn’t figured out how a wind powered sailboat works.
42 posted on 10/12/2009 4:18:40 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I want a Bat Mobile, cool.


43 posted on 10/12/2009 4:21:41 PM PDT by VastRWCon (Drill Baby Drill - Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Ah........I thought you were talking to me....but you were talking to the poster of the article. I didn't post the article.

My reference was a hat tip to Assimov's Foundation Series.

44 posted on 10/12/2009 4:50:41 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: VastRWCon
You can buy a street-legal Batmobile, all it takes is money.

(a lot of it)

45 posted on 10/12/2009 5:01:39 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: reagan_fanatic
The absolute coolest car in all of human history.

You might want to read this article from Car & Driver magazine:

Batmobile road test

They also test Starsky & Hutch's Gran Torino, the DeLorean from Back to the Future, the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazard, and Mad Max's Ford Falcon Interceptor.

The Batmobile wins! Bear in mind that it's not a road test as such, but a contest to see which is the coolest.

46 posted on 10/12/2009 5:13:44 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I’ve always said that if I ever get rich, one of the first things I’m going to buy is a replica of the original Batmobile.

I saw one of the originals a few years back while it was on tour - it was gorgeous. When I was a kid, Batman was one of my favorite shows and I lusted after the Batmobile even then. Even had one of the toy cars.

*sigh*


47 posted on 10/12/2009 5:19:04 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Bullsh*t)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I’d never slam a fellow FReeper.


48 posted on 10/12/2009 5:24:42 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: reagan_fanatic

According to the article, a “basic” Batmobile runs about $90,000. Presumably more if you add such details as flaming exhaust...


49 posted on 10/12/2009 5:26:38 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: U S Army EOD

Well, Obama is self centered, so you just have to explain it in such a way that he can relate it to himself. Watch:

Barack, the wind blows, just like you, OK?

And the sail sucks, also like you. Get it now?


50 posted on 10/12/2009 5:35:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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