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Did Al Qaeda Try to Assasinate Bush in Florida as First Step of 9/11 Attacks
911Reality.com ^ | September 25, 2001 | The Longboat Observer, Shay Sullivan, City Editor

Posted on 10/12/2009 11:12:56 AM PDT by Moseley

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To: rintense

You’d win the bet.


61 posted on 10/12/2009 1:08:16 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: mware

Freepers called for that to happen before it did. 9-11 was an amazing day on FR. But yes, Cheney was the man. He still is.


62 posted on 10/12/2009 1:15:21 PM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: Bender2
Terrorists certainly don't want to have to deal with the devastating wrath of Joe Biden!

Yes, Biden would scare the heck out of them NOT. But considering Biden is a double boob, wouldn't the terrorists find Biden a useless and indecisive president? Not that we don't have that now mind you. But then again the Peggy the freeloader types might get upset if their meal ticket goes away and they may demand Biden do something. Ok, ok, I agree the terrorists will leave BO alone.

63 posted on 10/12/2009 1:22:02 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support Our Military or Leave)
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To: mware
I don't recall hearing the details of the planes where box cutters were found. Planes are clear prior to take off. I think the terrorist must have already boarded.

I think both are true, although the Bush Administration and most people seem to be tone deaf and incompetent at explaining things and being clear about important details and facts.

I think that there was both a flight where Middle Eastern looking men pushed their way off the aircraft when it landed in Miami AND ALSO OTHER planes where boxcutters were found stashed without any people associated with them.

You say that the planes are cleared, but if they were stashed under blankets in the storage bins or in other out-of-the way places they would not have been noticed easily. However,the Bush Administration, the media, the 9/11 Commission, and everyone else seem to ignore these powerful details and focus on minor issues instead.
64 posted on 10/12/2009 1:22:03 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ManualOfRomance.com)
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To: Paladin2

I worked for an airline at the time and you are correct. On many planes including other companies, not included in the successfull attacks, people cleaning in the days following found box cutters tucked in seats of planes.


65 posted on 10/12/2009 1:25:09 PM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: luckybogey
Surface-to-air missiles were placed on the roof of the resort , and an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) plane circled high overhead.

I find this rather hard to believe. I notice that History Commons does not have a source on that point, unlike everything else.

However, Ronald Reagan did have surface-to-air mssiles placed on the roof of the White House, which I believe consists of shoulder-fired Stinger missiles.

SO it is possible that Stinger -- shoulder-fired, mobile -- missiles were taken from storage on Air Force One and taken by the Secret Service to the hotel.

I seriously doubt that they installed anything significant. I also find it hard to believe that we would KNOW about it if this was a secret service security measure.
66 posted on 10/12/2009 1:27:41 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ManualOfRomance.com)
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To: call meVeronica

Wow. Interesting. I wish they would publicize it. However, we too often “bury our lead” and lose the most important details.

The airlines probably don’t want to alarm the flying public. Law enforcement is obsessed with keeping things secret until the trial in court, and want to hush everything up so they can engage in “TRIAL BY AMBUSH” against defendants in court.

The bureaucrats don’t get it. The politicians don’t think they need to dignify the public’s curiosity or question with an answer.

What a shame that the best information is lost to history.

If you have anything as a source, or if you want to post a statement at www.911Reality.com, I would love to have the information.

The fact that it was on other airlines is even more interesteing.


67 posted on 10/12/2009 1:33:25 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ManualOfRomance.com)
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To: Paladin2; mware; Ruy Dias de Bivar

Here’s a true 9/11 story...

Two good friends of mine were to fly that morning from Minneapolis MSP to Chicago ORD for a three day conference. When they got to the check in desk, they were informed that two seats in business class had become “available” due two a last minute cancellation and would they like to upgrade. They did. Row 1 seats in business class. The flight attendant in business class was of middle-eastern descent with a thick accent.

Of course, at the time, they thought nothing of it.

Their flight was to depart at approx. the same time as the second plane crashed into the WTC.

They never pulled away from the gate and everybody got off, still not knowing what was going on on the esat coast.

Now, MSP is about five miles from the Mall of America, which would have been a big prize, or the final destination was Chicago, with lots of big buildings.......

They still have their tickets and boarding passes, tucked safely away in their fire-proof safes.


68 posted on 10/12/2009 1:48:27 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: Moseley

If I remember correctly, I first noticed the SAMs on the roof top of the school was reported in Time magazine. I don’t have the reference handy and I not sure if this was also noted in the 911 report.

Been a while since I looked at this however from my days in the AF and to my knowledge of speaking to “personal” friends previously in the 89th, I was not aware of using missiles on roof tops of buildings that a president was visiting? Especially a school...

Could be common practice after 911 however I find this strange PRIOR to 911.


69 posted on 10/12/2009 2:02:10 PM PDT by luckybogey
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To: silverleaf

Because all of the papers were pulled back from Longboat Key and White House did not release any information.


70 posted on 10/12/2009 2:09:49 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: xkaydet65

Did you ever see the movie, Air Force One, with Harrison Ford? Ask yourself after 9/11, why members of the press except for one reporter and one photographer were left in FL.


71 posted on 10/12/2009 2:11:34 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Bahbah; McGruff

Bump for later reading.


72 posted on 10/12/2009 2:17:06 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: RWGinger

exactly. ‘turned away’ my butt. no way in heck the SS would have just pushed ‘em along on their merry way.


73 posted on 10/12/2009 2:49:09 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Moseley

Your story may have had parallels with other people that day, as all domestic flights were shut down.

Investigations into the such stories, and if they merited deeper investigation, should have begun in earnest 7 to eight years ago. It may have led to some sleeper cells, even if only in a few cases, given the opening evidence would have been very circumstantial.

Some may have found it NOT politically correct to pursue.


74 posted on 10/12/2009 3:07:17 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: HardStarboard
I recall reading that there was one flight that had 4 Islamic men on it that returned to gate after the airline system was shutdown in the aftermath of the two WTC hits - they refused to leave the plane until it was explained to them that it would not leave.

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75 posted on 10/12/2009 4:09:54 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: SaraJohnson
"...If Americans were to place Muslims in harms way for killing a president, they would have to overcome the immediate response from the elite about racism and Muslim victimhood... In other words, Americans will never stand up for themselves..."


You have a good point.

76 posted on 10/12/2009 4:23:22 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Moseley
SEPTEMBER 9, 2001 : (KHWAJA BAHAUDDIN, AFGHANISTAN : N. ALLIANCE COMMANDER AHMED SHAH MASSOUD IS ASSASSINATED) On September 9, 2001, two suicide bombers posing as Algerian news reporters assassinated Ahmad Shah Mas'ud at his headquarters in Khwaja Bahauddin. Before detonating the explosive packed into a TV camera, the assassins repeatedly asked Mas'ud why he rejected Usama Bin Laden's leadership and the International Islamic Jehad.... just before launching the first war of this millennium, Usama Bin Laden eliminated his most immediate and dangerous adversary, and thus extinguished one of Afghanistan's brightest stars. ----"Ahmad Shah Massood (1953- September 9, 2001)," by Sunil Sainis/Laxman Bahroo, Afgha.com, September 9, 2004
77 posted on 10/12/2009 5:15:31 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: camle
SEPTEMBER 9, 2001 : (GREENACRES, FL : PALM BEACH COUNTY : ALMASRI FAMILY FLEES) A Saudi family, who a neighbor later said had enrolled an adult son in a nearby flight training school and leaves ''in a hurry'' two days before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. State records and neighbors in the upscale neighborhood in Greenacres, which is just southwest of West Palm Beach, identified the head of the family as Mohamad Almasri, 57. According to state records, others who lived at the house were Madawi Almasri, 26; Turki Ma Almasri, 22; and Afaf I. Arif, 47. Neighbors said Almasri lived at the home with his wife, a son and daughter in their late teens or early 20s, and a younger son and daughter. - FBI searches Palm Beach County ex-home of Saudi family Palm Beach Post, 1/22/2003

SEPTEMBER 9, 2001 : (FL : PALM BEACH COUNTY : 1606 DORAL DRIVE, FAIRWAY ISLES SUBDIVISION, IN THE TOWN OF GREENACRES : WITNESS SEES AL MASRI FAMILY PACKING UP AND LEAVING IN A HURRY) Lisa Dickerson said she watched Mohamad Almasri hustle his family into their car on Sept. 9, 2001. She said that a few days after the attacks, when news reports began focusing on possible connections between the terrorists and the nearby Lantana airport, she called a special national FBI hot line. "It was just the way he put them in," Dickerson said. "It happened so fast." ... According to state records, others who lived at the house in the upscale neighborhood near Jog Road and Forest Hill Boulevard were Madawi Almasri, 26, Turki Ma Almasri, 22, and Afaf I. Arif, 47. Neighbors said Almasri lived at the home with his wife, a son and daughter in their late teens or early twenties, and a younger son and daughter. -- FBI searches Saudi family's former home," By Scott McCabe and Eliot Kleinberg, Palm Beach Post Staff Writers Wednesday, January 22, 2003

78 posted on 10/12/2009 5:18:31 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Moseley
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 : (ASSASSINATION PLOTS : DEATH THREAT PHONED IN TO WHITE HOUSE ABOUT TRYING TO TAKE OUT AIR FORCE ONE ------ "Angel is next. . ." ) A death threat was called in to the White House that morning, saying the plotters were out to get Air Force One. The caller provided secret information that caused grave concern about the President's safety. In fact, the threat was taken so seriously, White House officials say, that Bush crisscrossed the country in Air Force One, going from Florida to Louisiana to Nebraska before returning to the White House. In addition, it is believed the hijacked plane that crashed in Pennsylvania may have been on the way to attack the White House or Air Force One. Neither of the men in custody here has been charged with any crimes. - Two Saudi Nationals Eyed In Plot to Slay Bush /Computer File Found : killpresidentbush.exe , GREG B. SMITH, NY daily News, 9/22/01
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......."Angel is next. . ." Has it ever been resolved (publicly) what the explanation for that is? I saw an interview with Rice in late 2001 confirming the threat was made, but she said they weren't sure if it was a mole or just a leak of a codename that had somehow gotten out. .....72 posted on 09/11/2006 3:04:08 PM PDT by Fedora
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Cheney promptly called the president in Florida, who had just boarded Air Force One, and urged him not to come back to Washington immediately. In the PEOC, the vice president was joined by Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, and Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, among others. . .A threatening message received by the Secret Service was relayed to the agents with the president that "Air Force One is next." According to the high official, American code words were used showing a knowledge of procedures that made the threat credible. (I have a second, on-the-record source about that: Karl Rove, the president's senior adviser, tells me: "When the president said 'I don't want some tinhorn terrorists keeping me out of Washington,' the Secret Service informed him that the threat contained language that was evidence that the terrorists had knowledge of his procedures and whereabouts.
In light of the specific and credible threat, it was decided to get airborne with a fighter escort."). . .The most worrisome aspect of these revelations has to do with the credibility of the "Air Force One is next" message. It is described clearly as a threat, not a friendly warning — but if so, why would the terrorists send the message? More to the point, how did they get the code-word information and transponder know-how that established their mala fides? That knowledge of code words, presidential whereabouts and possession of secret procedures indicates that the terrorists may have a mole in the White House — that, or informants in the Secret Service, F.B.I., F.A.A. or C.I.A. If so, the first thing our war on terror needs is an Angleton-type counterspy. ---------- Inside The Bunker
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U.S. intelligence officials have not ruled out the possibilty that a government mole may have given terrorists the top secret code language they used to deliver the threat "Air Force One is next" as the World Trade Center and Pentagon were under attack. In an interview with Tony Snow of "Fox News Sunday," National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice confirmed that the Sept. 11 threat against President Bush's life included a "coded name.". . .In a related development, the FBI has taken into custody two Saudi nationals who were found with computer files labeled "killpresidentbush.exe," the New York Daily News reported Saturday. The two suspects tried to board a plane from New York to Los Angeles on Sept. 13, two days after the Twin Tower and Pentagon attacks. They had tickets dated Sept. 11. "The two are among a group of 10 material witnesses now in custody," the News reported. The FBI has declined to make their identities public. ------- Rice: Not Clear Whether Mole Involved in Air Force One Threat
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That knowledge of code words, presidential whereabouts and possession of secret procedures indicates that the terrorists may have a mole in the White House — that, or informants in the Secret Service, F.B.I., F.A.A. or C.I.A. That got me to thinking about this comment of mine the other day. 148 posted on 04/10/2004 12:40:12 AM PDT by philman_36 | To 141
79 posted on 10/12/2009 5:26:42 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Moseley
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 8:50 AM : (SARASOTA, FL : LONGBOAT KEY MAN WAITS ALONG THE ROAD TO SEE BUSH MOTORCADE PASS; BEFORE IT DOES, A VAN DRIVES BY WITH TWO "MIDDLE EASTERN" MEN IN IT SHOUTING "DOWN WITH BUSH!" AND WAVING FISTS IN THE AIR) Earlier, the FBI questioned a Longboat Key man who also had a strange run-in with a van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent. At 8:50 a.m. the man stood on the Sarasota bayfront waiting to watch the presidential motorcade pass. A dilapidated van passed him with two men of Middle Eastern descent “screaming out the windows, ‘Down with Bush’ and raising their fists in the air.” The Longboat Key resident later reported the incident to police, who turned the matter over to FBI agents who questioned him. ------- "Possible Longboat terrorist incident: Is it a clue or is it a coincidence?," By Shay Sullivan, City Editor, Wednesday, September 26, 2001, Longboat Observer, http://www.longboatobserver.com/showarticle.asp?ai=1874
80 posted on 10/12/2009 5:27:20 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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