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Angry Hispanics mull boycotting 2010 census
WashTimes ^ | October 12, 2009 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 10/12/2009 5:00:15 AM PDT by radar101

Angered by President Obama's lack of success in legalizing illegal immigrants, some Hispanic activists are urging all Hispanics to boycott the 2010 census as a sign of displeasure.

Other groups have asked the federal government to suspend immigration raids while census takers are in the field, hoping that will make illegal immigrants more likely to respond to questions.

It's just the latest trouble in what's turning into a rocky run-up to the census next year.

During a congressional hearing last week, a Democratic senator told Census Bureau Director Robert M. Groves that the American Community Survey - a yearly survey the bureau mails to a small sampling of Americans - pries too deeply and is so confusing that it appeared at first to be a case of mail fraud.

Meanwhile, a group of Republican senators is trying to have the 2010 census form include a question about citizenship. They are trying to set a precedent that congressional seats be reapportioned based on a count of citizens, rather than all residents.

The census issue is roiling Hispanic and immigrant rights groups. Major organizations and broadcasters are mounting a campaign for participation, but some activists argue that Democrats and Mr. Obama haven't done enough to earn Hispanic support for the effort.

"The only thing left for the immigrant to bargain is something they want from the immigrant, and that is that the person be counted. If that person refuses to cooperate, refuses to participate, refuses to comply, now he has a modicum of leverage," said Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican American Political Association.

The Rev. Miguel Rivera, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, is calling for a boycott specifically by illegal immigrants.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010census; aliens; bho44; bhocira; bhoillegals; hispanics; illegals; immigrantlist
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1 posted on 10/12/2009 5:00:15 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

I think a great way to protest would be go to thier country of origin ...


2 posted on 10/12/2009 5:01:13 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: radar101

Please do


3 posted on 10/12/2009 5:01:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: radar101

Anybody who truly believes legalization of illegals is a plus for the USA, and wants to “drive home” the cause, should not only boycott the census, but the November 2010 elections as well. That will teach us!


4 posted on 10/12/2009 5:02:30 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: radar101

When Mesoamerican illegal alien peasants start-out by brazenly disrespecting and breaking America’s laws, there’s just no end to it:

U.S. Code > TITLE 13 > CHAPTER 7 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 221

§ 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers

U.S. Code > TITLE 13 > CHAPTER 7 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 222

§ 222. Giving suggestions or information with intent to cause inaccurate enumeration of population

Whoever, either directly or indirectly, offers or renders to any officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof engaged in making an enumeration of population under subchapter II, IV, or V of chapter 5 of this title, any suggestion, advice, information or assistance of any kind, with the intent or purpose of causing an inaccurate enumeration of population to be made, shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.


5 posted on 10/12/2009 5:10:18 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: radar101

I hope illegals do. They have no right to change the political boundries of a nation they aren’t citizens of


6 posted on 10/12/2009 5:13:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: radar101

The Democrats will use statistical sampling and come up with whatever numbers they need to move congressional seats


7 posted on 10/12/2009 5:14:58 AM PDT by digger48
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To: radar101

Where’s that clapping audience?


8 posted on 10/12/2009 5:15:42 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: radar101

9 posted on 10/12/2009 5:15:53 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: radar101
Angered by President Obama's lack of success in legalizing illegal immigrants, some Hispanic activists are urging all Hispanics to boycott the 2010 census as a sign of displeasure.

BOYCOTT THE CENSUS? YES!!!

This is the first positive thing I have heard from these racist criminals and moochers.
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10 posted on 10/12/2009 5:16:35 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take a beating.)
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To: cripplecreek

So don’t participate in the census then, Hispanics! Skew the numbers giving conservatives the upper hand. I heartily agree with your retrograde strategy!


11 posted on 10/12/2009 5:17:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: radar101

Exactly how does one count *people* who exist in the shadows with false/stolen identification? (if that)


12 posted on 10/12/2009 5:18:33 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: radar101

It would be too much to hope for that all illegals boycott voting, too?


13 posted on 10/12/2009 5:22:36 AM PDT by traditional1 (;)
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To: cripplecreek

“I hope illegals do. They have no right to change the political boundries of a nation they aren’t citizens of”

No problem.

Our commie/socialist Democrats and FOS RINOS will enable them to do just that. May they rot in hell.


14 posted on 10/12/2009 5:23:52 AM PDT by Levante
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To: radar101

Once again we discover that illegal immigration is all about hispanics. They won’t let us say it for fear of being called racists but every time there is a cry for ‘legalization’ it’s from a hispanic group.


15 posted on 10/12/2009 5:26:13 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: radar101

If only.


16 posted on 10/12/2009 5:28:44 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: radar101

There’s a mexican restaurant in my town called Aztlan. I stopped going there after I found out what “Aztlan” means. Racist bastards.


17 posted on 10/12/2009 5:32:02 AM PDT by rae4palin
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To: radar101

Please do boycott the census. That way states with a lot of hispanics will lose representation in Congress and the electoral college.


18 posted on 10/12/2009 5:33:33 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: radar101
They are trying to set a precedent that congressional seats be reapportioned based on a count of citizens, rather than all residents.

Based on past posts here, there's a lot of misunderstanding about this. Everyone physically present in the US is counted in the census, at least everyone who will cooperate, and there are no citizenship questions.

And a controversy in 2000 and now is a Dim desire to assume that large numbers of illegals avoid the census, and therefore, the census count for certain groups in certain states should be increased by a percentage to account for those they assume avoided the census.

19 posted on 10/12/2009 5:34:16 AM PDT by Will88
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To: rae4palin
To a leftist, EVERY other culture besides traditional Western, American culture deserves to thrive and prosper.

The Secret to the Suicidal Liberal Mind

20 posted on 10/12/2009 5:34:16 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Will88

I (and I’m sure others) understand that the counting is based on persons, illegal, criminal, or citizen.

But it just irks the hell out of us that people who shouldn’t even be here affect the apportionment of representation as much as productive citizens.


21 posted on 10/12/2009 5:35:48 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: radar101; rabscuttle385

So disappointing Obama is, imagine if Senior McCain was president, viva McCain!


22 posted on 10/12/2009 5:35:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: MrB
From your link:

One of the most positive results of Sept. 11 is that it has made the American people mad enough to reject envy. They now could care less if Moslems or the French or whomever are envious of them. That rejection must now be applied to the envy panderers and envy appeasers within America herself.

That didn't take long to be destroyed.

23 posted on 10/12/2009 5:39:40 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: radar101
This is so bogus. We are being scammed every which way but loose. I would bet the Ovomitons have the census rigged as we type.

(A) Ohaha and his thugs have NO fear whatsoever of rigging the census, and subsequent elections. Republicans let Rahm Emanuel steal the census from the Dept of Commerce so that the nasty little toad can politicize it and rig the census to get a permanent Dem majority.

(B) FREEPER FIRST PERSON ACCOUNT: "I directly witnessed Hispanics ‘coach’ other Hispanics to dupe California census takers ..... they inflated Hispanic numbers living at the address, and made-up names, or listed Hispanics living elsewhere as living at that address....The con was to gain more budget allocations and political representation for Hispanics. That was 19 years ago. I learned later that the this con game was occurring in all Hispanic communities throughout the West. "

(C) Providing false information to a census taker is a violation of federal and state law.

(D) All census takers should be provided with the phone number for ICE (TOLL FREE 1-866-347-2423).

(E) DEMAND THE CENSUS STAY NON-PARTISAN
Contact Thomas Mesenbourg, acting director of the US Census Bureau
EMAIL thomas.l.mesenbourg.jr@census.gov

(F) Demand that Congress stop ignoring the Federal Immigration and Nationality Act that makes it a crime to harbor,aid or abet illegal aliens. Punishment includes fines, imprisonment and confiscations of property. ANYONE who is aware of illegals and does not turn them in is breaking the law and could be charged with aiding and abetting.
Congress 202-224-3121 Toll-free switchboard: 800-965-4701----800-828-0498----877-762-8762

=============================================

REFERENCE Immigration law requires that aliens be documented for legal entry. (1) Those who sneak into the country are referred to as `entry without inspection (EWI). (2) Others enter with legal documentation and then violate the terms on which they have been admitted by taking jobs that are not authorized or overstaying the authorized period of stay.

NOTE WELL Both types of illegal immigrants are deportable under Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) which says: Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable.

Evidence of illegal immigration should go to ICE 1-866-347-2423.

24 posted on 10/12/2009 5:39:53 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
The frauds just keep on a-coming.....perpetrated by the Mexican government. QUOTING CONG TOM TANCREDO: “Juan Hernandez headed up the newly-created "Ministry of Mexicans Living in the United States." Hernandez is a very interesting fellow, a dual citizen of the United States and Mexico, and a good friend of presidents Bush and Mexico's Vicente Fox (and John MacCain's Hispanic outreach man). Hernandez said the purpose of the government agency he heads is:

(1) to increase the flow of Mexican nationals to the United States.....

(2) to serve Mexico’s needs.........

(3) to increase remittances to Mexico of $50 billion a year (30% of the Mexican GDP);

(4) to get US jobs for an exploding Mexican population, alleviating social instability due to rising unemployment;

(5) to get free US training for Mexicans, who are expected to return and repatriate those skills back to Mexico.

Hernandez wants amnesty: "By populating the United States with millions of Hispanics tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on US policy and its dealings with Mexico."

SOURCE http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33894

25 posted on 10/12/2009 5:41:20 AM PDT by Liz
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To: raybbr

Everyone should read that article. I spam it regularly... :)

Yeah, the patriotism aroused by an attack on our homeland that killed more people than any single attack in our history lasted about 6 minutes for some leftists.


26 posted on 10/12/2009 5:41:47 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: angkor

Didn’t the Clintonistas break this law when they tried to substitute guesstimates for actual enumeration for the 2000 census?


27 posted on 10/12/2009 5:46:03 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MrB
Here's one for you...

Evan Sayet: "How Modern Liberals Think"

Long, but if you have the time it will open your eyes.

28 posted on 10/12/2009 5:46:17 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: radar101

If certain segments of our populace would put as much energy and ingenuity into productive activities as they do into gaming the system, our economy would never go bust.


29 posted on 10/12/2009 5:47:18 AM PDT by randita (Chains you can bereave in.)
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To: radar101

Angered by President Obama’s lack of success in legalizing illegal immigrants
_________________________________________

Oh, noes...

The most specialest bunch have been dissed by barry...

:(


30 posted on 10/12/2009 5:47:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MrB
But it just irks the hell out of us that people who shouldn’t even be here affect the apportionment of representation as much as productive citizens.

Yep, and the Dims want to assume that large numbers of those who shouldn't be here avoided the census, and they want to add some percentage to the totals to make up for it.

I believe the census really doesn't share information with any other federal agency, so no criminals are found, no tax cheats found, or illegals deported because they cooperated with the census. Probably has to be that way or many would avoid it.

31 posted on 10/12/2009 5:48:33 AM PDT by Will88
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To: raybbr

Thanks, I’ve read that one as well - “Regurgitating the Apple” IIRC.


32 posted on 10/12/2009 5:49:32 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: wolfcreek

Bonus question: If they are using multiple stolen ID’s, do they get counted once for each? ACORN says “si!”.


33 posted on 10/12/2009 5:50:07 AM PDT by PogySailor (We're so screwed.....welcome to the American Oligarchy)
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To: MrB
Thanks, I’ve read that one as well - “Regurgitating the Apple” IIRC.

It's a video. He describes something similar to your article. It's very well done.

34 posted on 10/12/2009 5:51:01 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

I get “read” and “listened to” and “watched” mixed up as I listen to a lot of books on tape AND read AND watch, etc.
I believe their is a full transcript of Sayet’s speech online.


35 posted on 10/12/2009 5:53:34 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: radar101

It’d be nice if they got so mad they all went back to Mexico. Nah, that ain’t gonna happen. Just wishful thinking.

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36 posted on 10/12/2009 5:53:51 AM PDT by flatfish
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To: angkor

Do you think those codes still are in effect since the White House took over the Census?


37 posted on 10/12/2009 5:55:02 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Liz

I make demands of my congress critters all the time. They don’t even respond to my e mails any longer.

We now have the most anti American president, followed by a similar congress.

Bricks will fly soon


38 posted on 10/12/2009 5:55:28 AM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: radar101

I don’t believe this for a second. Not one of them stupid or not wants to be an American citizen.


39 posted on 10/12/2009 6:02:13 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: radar101

Oh my! Are they ‘angry’? Has the mean ole gringo done them wrong? How about F U!


40 posted on 10/12/2009 6:04:10 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: radar101

We could only hope!


41 posted on 10/12/2009 6:16:58 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: MrB

I enjoyed that article at your link. I’m going to start telling liberals to go into S&M themselves sexually, rather than trying to get America to do it socially.


42 posted on 10/12/2009 6:18:56 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Hey, how come there’s no ITALIAN spot on the census? We got a club ya know. Nasuno sa, la veri tas. Waaaaaaaaay.
See what I’m sayin’?


43 posted on 10/12/2009 6:22:55 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: antisocial
My favorite two paragraphs:

What could be more idiotic and masochistic than to oppose missile defense? This opposition cannot be understood unless one dispenses with its rhetoric and rationales and realizes that these folks at their emotional core do not want their country defended.

The lunacy of the "global warming" hoax cannot be comprehended other than that its masochistic advocates do not want their civilization to prosper. The culture-destroying immigration policies that Pat Buchanan warns are causing "The Death of the West" were put in place by those who do not want their culture to survive.


44 posted on 10/12/2009 6:23:27 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: ImpBill

The laws regarding census and immigration have been repeatedly ignored and broken by both Republicans and Democrats for several decades.

To believe that “Republicans in Congress respect our immigration laws” is to be willfully or pathetically naive.


45 posted on 10/12/2009 6:27:35 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: radar101
"The only thing left for the immigrant to bargain is something they want from the immigrant, and that is that the person be counted. If that person refuses to cooperate, refuses to participate, refuses to comply, now he has a modicum of leverage," said Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican American Political Association.

Where the hell did they find this brainiac?

If we don't count you, Nativo, our jackass liberals don't get to give you any free stuff.

"Weee showed dem! Weee made dem keeeep their free stuuuuuuf!"

I can't decide if this guy is Cheech or Chong?

46 posted on 10/12/2009 6:31:25 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: digger48
Ah yes. The Constitution calls for an “actual enumeration”.

For those of you in Rio Linda that means an actual count, rather than an estimation.

Of course the Democrats want to use “statistical sampling” rather than an “actual enumeration” as called for under the Constitution; they even had Acorn in on the act until they got too hot to handle.

47 posted on 10/12/2009 6:32:20 AM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: radar101

Hilarious, they have no realization that boycotting the census hurts them more than helps them. If huge swaths of hispanics boycott and don’t get counted then the seats in the House that ‘represent’ them gets shifted to another state with a ‘higher population’.


48 posted on 10/12/2009 6:35:37 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: radar101
Angered by President Obama's lack of success in legalizing illegal immigrants, some Hispanic activists are urging all Hispanics to boycott the 2010 census as a sign of displeasure.

YES! Please.Go for it. I'm with ya 100%!

If they all boycotted the census, Chicago's population would drop to +/- 1,600,000. Daley would lose millions and millions of dollars. Natch, IL's population would drop too and would lose BLUE SEATS in the House, plus millions and millions in 'gubmint funds' too. Annnnnd new districts would HAVE to be drawn on the State and Fed levels.

So please. By all means amigos. BOYCOTT the 2010 census.

49 posted on 10/12/2009 6:40:55 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: radar101

ya that ....going home would be great protests


50 posted on 10/12/2009 6:46:38 AM PDT by dalebert
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