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Tea Party movement has fans, detractors and an uncertain impact
Times-News ^ | October 10, 2009 | Mike Wilder

Posted on 10/11/2009 2:47:22 PM PDT by Syncro

Tea Party movement has fans, detractors and an uncertain impact

October 10, 2009 10:25 PM
Mike Wilder / Times-News

The Tea Party movement, depending on who defines it, is a collection of American patriots working to preserve democracy, a movement made up of people who don’t understand public policy and want to score cheap political points, or something in-between.

Protests have been held throughout North Carolina and the United States since this spring. Many who have participated describe themselves as fiscal conservatives, but political analysts say there’s a broader range of opinions represented in the Tea Party effort than in a typical protest.

At a Tea Party held in Graham in May, some were critical of the government’s bailout of large financial institutions. Others have been motivated by opposition to plans for national health care.

And while some clearly aren’t fans of President Barack Obama — one sign at the May protest read “Impeach Obama Now” — some are supporters of neither former President George W. Bush nor the national Republican Party.

Mike Munger, a political science professor at Duke University, ran for North Carolina governor last year as a Libertarian.

He has been the keynote speaker at two Tea Party events — one in Raleigh in April, the other in Union County, in south-central North Carolina, in September.

Munger wasn’t sure what kind of reaction he would get when he described himself as a former Republican who blamed that party for beginning what the Democratic Party has continued.

Republicans under the leadership of George W. Bush, he said, embraced massive spending and huge deficits, as well as the Patriot Act, which has been criticized as undermining people’s constitutional rights.

“I expected boos,” he said. Instead, he got applause, though perhaps not as much as speakers who made other points.

 

ON SATURDAY, the second local Tea Party of the year was held in Graham.

Both have been affiliated with the FreedomWorks Organization, a national group that promotes smaller government, lower taxes and more individual responsibility and choice. The name “Tea Party” recalls one of the best-known events associated with the American Revolution, the Boston Tea Party. TEA is also used as an acronym standing for “Taxed Enough Already.”



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Steve Carter, a retired banker who has been active in the Republican Party, said organizers are attempting to create a bi-partisan movement of people who support “fiscal conservatism, lower taxes and self-restraint on the part of government.”

Speakers for Saturday’s event included Barbara Howe, a former candidate for governor who is chair of the state’s Libertarian Party. Eddie Boswell, a Democrat who serves on the Alamance County Board of Commissioners, spoke at both local tea parties. Carter said elected officials of both major political parties were invited to speak.

“We want to encourage debate and discussion,” he said, rather than have the audience hear only from people who are likely to share most of their opinions.

Carter said people who were invited had to agree to answer questions from people at the event as a condition of being allowed to speak.

 

J.A. FREEMAN, a retired educator who is chairman of the Alamance County Democratic Party, said he has no objections to political protests but is concerned that there’s little constructive communication between people of opposing views at the moment.

Concern about taxation is legitimate, he said, but should be within the context of a “bigger picture” in which people are willing to consider how government can meet people’s needs.

Some have criticized the Tea Party movement as too heavily focused on personal denigration of Obama.

Steve Green, a political science professor at N.C. State University, said there’s little doubt racism has come into play in some of the criticism Obama has received, mentioning images he’s seen online of Obama portrayed as a monkey. While it’s true previous presidents have been caricatured either in that way or similarly, Green said, the history of how African-Americans have been portrayed in the United States requires an added sensitivity in Obama’s case.

A McClatchy News account of the May Tea Party in Raleigh included reports of racially motivated comments made by people critical of the protesters, including one person quoted as calling them “white rednecks.”

Saturday’s event in Graham included one speech by a black political figure, Celo Faucette. He’s a Republican running in a non-partisan race for Burlington City Council. Felice Pete, a black woman who is a nurse anesthetist in Raleigh, spoke about health care, energizing the crowd near the end of the rally.

 

GREEN DESCRIBED the Tea Party movement as unusual compared to other protest movements in recent American history. Typically, he said, protesters rally around a central idea, such as opposition to a war or promoting civil rights for a minority group.

Munger sees fear over the growing deficit and national debt as the biggest uniting factor among protestors.

He also points to concern over the budget and government debt as producing a recent example of political and policy success: “Bill Clinton did it” by achieving a balanced budget during the 1990s.

Still, he agreed with Green that the anti-big government movement needs a plan of its own to present to the country, and, perhaps equal in importance, an effective messenger.

“You need alternatives,” he said, not just criticism.

While the chances of a majority coalition emerging in favor of smaller government may not look promising, Munger said, it’s important to remember how quickly the political scene can change.

Three years ago, Munger said, few would have thought Barack Obama could be elected president as soon as 2008.

This article is leftisted skewed, starting at the very beginning:
The Tea Party movement, depending on who defines it, is a collection of American patriots working to preserve democracy, a movement made up of people who don’t understand public policy and want to score cheap political points, or something in-between.
Couldn't be more wrong, judging from the hundreds of people I talked to at Tea Parties when I traveled across the country on the Tea Party Express Tour last month.
1 posted on 10/11/2009 2:47:22 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

movement made up of people who don’t understand public policy

NO—they do understand policies—but the politicans don’t.
That’s the issue.


2 posted on 10/11/2009 2:51:06 PM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: Syncro
The Tea Party movement isn't about (D), (R), or "public policies."

It's about the Constitution, pure and simple.

3 posted on 10/11/2009 2:54:24 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Syncro

J.A. Freeman said: Concern about taxation is legitimate, he said, but should be within the context of a “bigger picture” in which people are willing to consider how government can meet people’s needs.

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WHAT? How Government Can Meet People’s Needs is the PROBLEM not the Solution. Government is there to PROTECT Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. . . not to meet ANYONE’s “needs.”

Someone please write letters to the Editor and remind people of that FACT.


4 posted on 10/11/2009 2:55:01 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (2012 -- Sarah Palin for President, Michele Bachmann for VP, Liz Cheney for Sec of State!)
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To: Achilles Heel

T(axed) E(nough) A(lready) is a sentiment that appeals to me.


5 posted on 10/11/2009 2:55:58 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, O'Riley! I'd rather be a CRACKER than a CASPAR.)
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To: Achilles Heel

LOL you are RIGHT!


6 posted on 10/11/2009 2:56:22 PM PDT by Syncro (TPXII---Don't miss it!)
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To: Syncro

Sounds like the Libertarians are hijacking the tea party movement.


7 posted on 10/11/2009 2:58:04 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: DTogo
The Tea Party movement isn't about (D), (R), or "public policies."

It's about the Constitution, pure and simple.

Yup, that's it.

You got it DTogo.

It's a little too simple for the leftists to figure out.

8 posted on 10/11/2009 2:59:04 PM PDT by Syncro (TPXII---Don't miss it!)
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To: Syncro
is a collection of American patriots working to preserve democracy

I know several hundred people personally involved and maybe at least 1,000 or more on line and I don't know one who is "working to preserve democracy".

9 posted on 10/11/2009 2:59:13 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Just wait til they get VAT and Cap & Tax. Oh, and mandatory health insurance. Do we get to keep anything? I feel Obama is Pharaoh, leading us all back into slavery.


10 posted on 10/11/2009 3:00:54 PM PDT by samsmom
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To: Altura Ct.
Your are right.

It's about the Constitution, upon which our country was founded.

A Constitutional Republic.

It always hits a nerve when the USA is called a "democracy" or when they say they want to spread democracy all over the world.

Democracy leads to socialism, and socialism leads to communism.

11 posted on 10/11/2009 3:02:41 PM PDT by Syncro (TPXII---Don't miss it!)
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To: sasportas

*Sounds like the Libertarians are hijacking the tea party movement.*

They are, have seen it here and Freepers in other states have said the same thing.

They are pushing anti war, 9/11 Truther propaganda.

I have gone especially to educated these loons. some didn’t even understand what is in the background of
these Paulites.
It is like going to a Code Pinko rally.


12 posted on 10/11/2009 3:21:20 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Syncro
Overall, I think this is a pretty good article. It isn’t a hit piece. It tries to be “fair and balanced.” The quotes from the county Democrat party chairman are an opportunity for both sides to present their view. I don’t object to that at all.

I think this article should be on the “Must read” list for the TEA Party organizers. I say that because this tells a lot about the perception of the movement from outsiders. Also, the last bits of the story are valuable feedback.


Still, he agreed with Green that the anti-big government movement needs a plan of its own to present to the country, and, perhaps equal in importance, an effective messenger.

“You need alternatives,” he said, not just criticism.

While the chances of a majority coalition emerging in favor of smaller government may not look promising, Munger said, it’s important to remember how quickly the political scene can change.

Whether you agree with this or not, that is the perception that many people have of the TEA party movement. And those are the things we need to work on. I believe that we are better with a lot of messengers, rather than one charismatic leader. I don’t necessarily view that as a weakness of the movement. But the message does need some refining and focus.


From the desk of
cc2k:

13 posted on 10/11/2009 3:21:58 PM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: Syncro

More tea please


14 posted on 10/11/2009 3:22:24 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Syncro

The same Constitution Libertarian and Paulite Judge Andrew Napolitano uses as a source why illegal aliens have a Constitutional right to Health insurance.


15 posted on 10/11/2009 3:26:21 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Syncro
IMO, the Tea Party movement is far too large and far too inclusive to be hijacked by anyone, no matter how hard they try. (And some are trying, to be sure).

This is a massive movement OF THE PEOPLE and will not be stopped.

As one who was part of the million plus in DC on 9-12 I can say without a doubt that nothing of this nature has ever occurred in this country (at least in my lifetime).

The impact may be "uncertain" as to its final outcome, but it is going to be, and already has been, huge. We just need to keep up the pressure to get our country back.

16 posted on 10/11/2009 3:37:10 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Syncro
Somebody at the Jackson Michigan tea party gets it.

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17 posted on 10/11/2009 3:38:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; Aegedius; Afronaut; alethia; ...
A write-up on yesterday's tea party in Graham, from the Burlington Times-News.

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail MitchellC if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
18 posted on 10/11/2009 3:51:02 PM PDT by MitchellC
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To: DTogo

Amen! Vote against every incumbent. And here’s why I say that. Even if the guy is a conservative if he hasn’t been standing up and naming names, he needs to go.


19 posted on 10/11/2009 4:41:54 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians, including republicans.)
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To: DTogo

check these patriots out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdzspfkujHQ

and know who has the best interest of this country at heart...

what it will come down to is, who has the stronger constitution...

hehehe

t


20 posted on 10/11/2009 5:43:09 PM PDT by teeman8r (i liked GWB... really, i did.)
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To: Syncro
J.A. FREEMAN, a retired educator who is chairman of the Alamance County Democratic Party, said he has no objections to political protests but is concerned that there’s little constructive communication between people of opposing views at the moment.

Whaa, whaa, whaa.

Concern about taxation is legitimate, he said, but should be within the context of a “bigger picture” in which people are willing to consider how government can meet people’s needs.

We don't need you to tell us how to meet our needs...

21 posted on 10/11/2009 6:26:10 PM PDT by GVnana ("Obama is incredibly naive and grossly egotistical." Sarkozy)
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To: Achilles Heel

The ongoing problem is that too many politicians DO UNDERSTAND, but they pretend that they don’t understand. I’m excluding all of the “truely dopey”-the other problem-politicians that do exist from that statement.


22 posted on 10/11/2009 7:14:07 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: Terry Mross
Vote against every incumbent. And here’s why I say that. Even if the guy is a conservative if he hasn’t been standing up and naming names, he needs to go.

Well said! No more go-along and get-along politicians!

23 posted on 10/11/2009 7:32:44 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

How about the Constitution? Uncertain impact?


24 posted on 10/11/2009 7:38:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ohioWfan

But, all of these Tea Parties end the same way: The leftists are still in control of everything important throughout the U.S.! Election day on November ‘10 will really be too late, because too much leftist legislation will already be put into place before then. Socialized health care, amnesty for illegal immigrants, “cap and trade”, and a finite number of other “very damaging” leftist legislation, will already be in place, prior to November ‘10!


25 posted on 10/11/2009 7:52:40 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: Terry Mross

I agree.

We must vote them all out. That is the ONLY way the newly elected will know they work for us.

It sends a definite message that will not be forgotten.

It is up to us to make voters aware how important it is to not vote for ANY incumbant.


26 posted on 10/11/2009 8:13:32 PM PDT by jch10
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
That's how leftists/ Communists take over a country. By stealth through leftist legislation and centralized control. It's too late now. And the congressional elections of November 2010 will not do a nit. You've lost your beloved America for good. http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1071.html
27 posted on 10/11/2009 9:42:18 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Syncro
This article is leftisted skewed, starting at the very beginning:

Ya think?

"The Tea Party is made up of a bunch of misguided idiots, or right-wing bigots, depending on your viewpoint."

Whatta jackass.

28 posted on 10/12/2009 6:13:27 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Syncro
King George III probably didn't understand the significance of the original Tea Party movement, either. Looking forward, the effort needs a unifying symbol. I suggest the Gadsden Flag. See below.

Congressman Billybob

Don't Tread On Me (9/12 photo and poster"

"Ben Franklin was in D.C."

29 posted on 10/12/2009 10:40:54 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Tom Paine and the future of America: www.TheseAreTheTimes.us)
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