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Japanese now Leaning towards buying stealthy JSF aircraft
Jane's ^ | Oct 7th, 2009 | Jon Grevatt

Posted on 10/08/2009 8:01:03 PM PDT by gaijin

Japan is negotiating a contract with the United States that will provide Tokyo with sensitive information about the systems and performance of the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) as it seeks to evaluate the aircraft in a bid to procure a next-generation fighter (FX) for the Japan Air Self-Defense Force.

A source at the Japanese Ministry of Defence (MoD) told Jane's on 6 October that the contract is expected to be signed shortly....the development signals a clear move by Japan towards the JSF - and away from the F-22 Raptor ...the MoD has been requesting the US government to provide us with information ... The source stressed, however, that the "contract for provision of information" did not mean that it had already selected the JSF.

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TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defense; f22; f35; intel; japan; technology
The critical element is omitted:

Is this Japanese interest in PLAN A: buying affordable, finished samples off the shelf from the USA to stretch their precious defense yen, OR PLAN B: merely license production in Japan of a US-designed aircraft...?

Cuz there is CONSIDERABLY HIGHER transfer of stealth-related knowledge with plan B, OK?

We do NOT need to end up with all of Asia having this technology. Worst of all would be if we agreed to CO-DESIGN some radically-tweaked version of this aircraft, because then not only would they get all these new manufacturing techniques, but also the whole thought process that goes into it --they'd throw us overboard after they'd sucked our brains dry.

1 posted on 10/08/2009 8:01:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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2 posted on 10/08/2009 8:06:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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3 posted on 10/08/2009 8:07:04 PM PDT by gaijin
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4 posted on 10/08/2009 8:18:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
the F-35

5 posted on 10/08/2009 8:20:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: gaijin
F-35 Hovering --panel/door operation, etc
6 posted on 10/08/2009 8:22:44 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin
You're right. I'm all for plan B. The Japanese are under significant threat from North Korea. In some ways, even more of a threat that South Korea. After all, I think NK wants SK back someday as a conquered land. But Japan? I don't think NK would have any qualms about attacking them with ballistic missiles and WMD.

If it means helping an ally, US production, and OBTW lowering the per-plane costs for us, lets do it!

7 posted on 10/08/2009 8:24:21 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Zactly..!

NK & PRC baddies really DO threaten, ergo let’s let Hatoyama reallllly stretch those newly strong yen and buy a whole mess of these babies.

If they have concerns about stratospheric quality standards, or they want to massage them or feed new Kobe-versions beer or whatever, fine...! Let them bring a whole gaggle of Hello-Kitty craving engineers over here to give us the pointers —we’ll house them, and keep the sensitive parts all black-boxed off from them, take them shooting, and to some Pahrump ho’ houses —dandy...!

IF their concerns are for a really robust and affordable defense of Japan —which is what everyone wants— they should be fine with this.

Let’s NOT give the store away for spare change —no.

I love JMSDF and all, but our Aegis stuff went over there and just ended up getting handed over to the PRC via the most basic Chinese honeytraps in the world, and WE DO NOT WANT THAT THIS TIME AROUND, NO THANK YOU.


8 posted on 10/08/2009 8:39:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ThunderSleeps
Only problem, Japan's new leader is a socialist who's wife think she's been probed by Space Aliens on her way to visit VenusJapan's PM Yukio Hatoyama Pictures, Images and PhotosJapanese First Lady Pictures, Images and Photos.
9 posted on 10/08/2009 8:39:59 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (`)
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To: gaijin

Technology transfer is a much smaller risk than having US companies going out of business because they can’t sell overseas.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 8:46:24 PM PDT by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: gaijin

BTTT


11 posted on 10/08/2009 8:48:11 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: gaijin

Where is the part where the Japanese make it into a robot piloted by angsty teenagers???


12 posted on 10/08/2009 9:19:52 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: gaijin

Well they may want it because they forsee a future when they have been thrown under the bus by the administration and to the wolves in china/N. Korea......


13 posted on 10/08/2009 9:20:59 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; sushiman; ...
Where is the part where the Japanese make it into a robot piloted by angsty teenagers???

Good question!

日本*ピング* (kono risuto ni hairitai ka detai wo shirasete kudasai : let me know if you want on or off this list)

14 posted on 10/08/2009 9:33:25 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: redstateconfidential
Only problem, Japan's new leader is a socialist who's wife think she's been probed by Space Aliens on her way to visit Venus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

She still hasnt figured out that it was me.

Sheesh.

15 posted on 10/08/2009 9:39:11 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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Krankor?..Is that you?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzXPBPci8D4


16 posted on 10/08/2009 9:51:54 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (`)
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To: gaijin
The F-35J won't be that suitable for long-range operation for the JASDF, because of its single engine and shorter combat radius. The F-22J Japanese Raptor would be better suited.
17 posted on 10/08/2009 10:03:10 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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Alas, not Krankor, it was Beldar goes to Japan.

It went something like this, ( watch from minute 1:00)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSPtkTTkI4c&feature=related

She was with cone.


18 posted on 10/08/2009 10:04:59 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: GraceG

I doubt it’ll be like an anime/manga.


19 posted on 10/08/2009 10:18:24 PM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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To: myknowledge

I would personally be perfectly happy with at least a squadron of F-22’s in Japan.


20 posted on 10/08/2009 10:40:50 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: DTogo
What Japan really needs is a fighter plane that actually is a winsome teenage girl.
21 posted on 10/08/2009 10:44:06 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: redstateconfidential

Are you sure it wasn’t Uranus.


22 posted on 10/08/2009 10:57:17 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: gaijin

The South shall rise again.


23 posted on 10/08/2009 11:55:52 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: gaijin
Question:
Why do they call it the F-35? when it is clearly an attack plane?
24 posted on 10/09/2009 1:52:31 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: gaijin

Japan needs something that will support nuke delivery. They can’t depend on ostammer for help when China, Russia and NK come for them.

As for being thrown overboard first, remember who’s in the WH now. None of our allies can or should trust the SOB. Israel just told him to bugger off, and western European countries aren’t too happy with him for a number of transgressions he’s committed while spouting NATO ‘unity.’


25 posted on 10/09/2009 3:52:08 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: gaijin
The Japanese want a technology transfer.

I say NO!

26 posted on 10/09/2009 6:43:37 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Question: Why do they call it the F-35? when it is clearly an attack plane?

For the same reason they called a stealth bomber the F-117. Because pilots feel sexier when they're flying a fighter.

Besides, the F-35 IS able to do air-to-air.

27 posted on 10/09/2009 7:30:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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”Besides, the F-35 IS able to do air-to-air. “

Yeah, about as well as a harrier or an A-10 can. Not very well relative to the same generation of planes.

my father in law gets really annoyed by this point. He says it should be called an A-35 or at the very least F/A-35.

My father in law still holds the second most number of hours flown in the Air force with a distinguished flying cross while flying an F-104 in Nam.

28 posted on 10/09/2009 10:50:57 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: GraceG

I thought their new leader wanted to move close to china. Why should we sell them F-35s


29 posted on 10/09/2009 3:26:37 PM PDT by Always Independent
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