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Barack Obama adviser says Sharia Law is misunderstood
Telegraph ^ | October 8 | Andrew Gilligan and Alex Spillius

Posted on 10/08/2009 3:21:24 PM PDT by PghBaldy

President Barack Obama's adviser on Muslim affairs, Dalia Mogahed, has provoked controversy by appearing on a British television show hosted by a member of an extremist group to talk about Sharia Law.

They called for Sharia Law to be "the source of legislation" and said that women should not be "permitted to hold a position of leadership in government". Miss Mogahed made no challenge to these demands and said that "promiscuity" and the "breakdown of traditional values" were what Muslims admired least about the West. She said: "I think the reason so many women support Sharia is because they have a very different understanding of sharia than the common perception in Western media. "The majority of women around the world associate gender justice, or justice for women, with sharia compliance. "The portrayal of Sharia has been oversimplified in many cases."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: daliamogahed; husseinobama; islam; mogahed; mullahobama; muslimworld; obama; sharia
Miss Mogahed, who was born in Egypt and moved to America at the age of five, is the first veiled Muslim woman to serve in the White House. Her appointment was seen as a sign of the Obama administration's determination to reach out to the Muslim world.
1 posted on 10/08/2009 3:21:24 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

“Stone her, Stone her!” — a frequent application of Sharia law in families.


2 posted on 10/08/2009 3:23:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: PghBaldy

Disgusting.


3 posted on 10/08/2009 3:23:32 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: PghBaldy
I'm sure it is.

Some girls like to get stoned.


4 posted on 10/08/2009 3:24:09 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: PghBaldy
No Mogahead, you misunderstand the Bill of Rights.

And if you try that Sharia crap here, we will send you south, or back home.

Not much to be mis-understood about it. Capital punishment for having an affair? No trial by peers? Eff you Mogahead.

Sharia:


5 posted on 10/08/2009 3:25:54 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: PghBaldy; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


6 posted on 10/08/2009 3:27:35 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: PghBaldy

7 posted on 10/08/2009 3:28:44 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: PghBaldy

We coddle the virus of Islam as a religion and not as a violent social and political system bent on our destruction. What we are doing is called slow suicide.


8 posted on 10/08/2009 3:30:09 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Islam is a barbaric social and political system in religious drag.)
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To: PghBaldy

Out! Let’s get rid of him ...


9 posted on 10/08/2009 3:31:16 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Bon mots

I wonder if Dalia Mogahed would like to interview this poor woman prior to her stoning. You know, an indepth interview.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 3:31:32 PM PDT by Sparko ("Barack Hussein Obama He said Red, Yellow, Black or White All are equal in His sight. Mmm, mmm, mmm")
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To: PghBaldy

What is it about their intent for government overthrow in favor of Islamic theocracy, beheading, stoning and honor killings that I misunderstand? Just curious.


11 posted on 10/08/2009 3:32:06 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: PghBaldy
"The majority of women around the world associate gender justice, or justice for women, with sharia compliance."
- Dalia Mogahed, President Barack Obama's adviser on Muslim affairs.


12 posted on 10/08/2009 3:33:51 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: PghBaldy

Yep Sharia Law and Zero are both misunderstood!


13 posted on 10/08/2009 3:34:46 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: PghBaldy

They sure are infiltrating into our government.


14 posted on 10/08/2009 3:36:10 PM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Lock and load)
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To: F15Eagle; Islaminaction; MestaMachine
Ping.
15 posted on 10/08/2009 3:36:36 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: PghBaldy
Top Ten Reasons Sharia is Bad for ALL Societies.....

10. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.

9. Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives.

8. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical eye for physical eye

7. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off.

6. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or mutilated.

5. Islam commands that homosexuals must be executed

4. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death

3. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.

2. Islam orders apostates to be killed.

1. Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/08/top_ten_reasons_why_sharia_is.html

16 posted on 10/08/2009 3:40:50 PM PDT by dianed
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To: Overtaxed Patriot

infiltrating? No they are being invited in through the front door by BO.


17 posted on 10/08/2009 3:46:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dianed

Aunt Esther isn’t going to like this.........


18 posted on 10/08/2009 3:46:43 PM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: PghBaldy

Time is running out....


19 posted on 10/08/2009 3:47:40 PM PDT by indylindy (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: dianed

Don’t forget that Islam encourages marrying children.

Oh and it allows relations with farm animals.


20 posted on 10/08/2009 3:48:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PghBaldy

I have said, a few times, nobama takes care of his “brothers” who prefer shaira law to ours. I wonder why these people come here if they dislike our laws and country so much. If Mogahad wants to wear a veil...go back to her parents hell hole they left when she was 5 years old.


21 posted on 10/08/2009 3:56:36 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: driftdiver

Don’t forget that they are homoerotic too!


22 posted on 10/08/2009 3:57:33 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: driftdiver; IbJensen

9/20/09

“Obama Appoints Muslim to High-level Position in Department of Homeland Security (More treachery)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2348128/posts


23 posted on 10/08/2009 4:13:27 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: PghBaldy; All

Sayyid Imam, who last time I heard was a resident of an Egyptian prison, is the author of the book outlining and justifying the basis of Al Qaeda and other radical terrorist groups. We rather simplisticly look for verses in the Koran but in reality it is Islamic jurisprudence, or in other words, Sharia Law, that this man used and by it interpreted the Koran to develop the radical jihad doctrine that Bin Ladin and Zawihiri accepted and made virulent through fanatic young(mostly)men(mostly). He made a very rational and convincing argument showing that Islamic tradition and law was totally consistent with this kind of action. Then a couple of years ago he wrote another book which some have interpreted as reversing course or at least slowing everything down until Islam had achieved a stronger position in the world. 0, maybe this woman and pretty much the rest of our western leadership are clueless about how this works. 0 thinks is was a deficit of empathy on the part of the terrorists that caused 911 and the rest of the atrocities.
Empathy had nothing to do with it, at least as far as the victims of 911 or even what they consider other apostate muslims and so deserving of death are concerned. It’s all about Sharia Law.

This is the conclusion of a very long article I read on this by a Daniel J. Lav:

“[9/11] WAS A CATASTROPHE FOR THE MUSLIMS. [AL-QAEDA] IGNITED STRIFE THAT FOUND ITS WAY INTO EVERY HOME, and they were the cause of the imprisonment of thousands of Muslims in the prisons of various countries. They caused the death of tens of thousands of Muslims - Arabs, Afghans, Pakistanis, and others. The Taliban’s Islamic Emirate was destroyed, and al-Qaeda was destroyed. They were the direct cause of the American occupation of Afghanistan and other heavy losses which there is not enough time to mention here. THEY BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL OF THIS.” …(Imam)

“Sayyid Imam has not retracted takfir (apostacy) of the rulers, and for him nothing has unraveled. The prohibition of jihad that is the heart of the Tarshid instead relies on what we called a “suspension mechanism,” but in principle the entire edifice of jihadist belief – which Imam himself did much to construct – remains in place. Thus if Sayyid Imam still considers “making ready” an obligation, the jihadists could arrive at a state of ability and the jihad would recommence.
To employ another analogy, we could compare jihadist doctrine to A TIME BOMB. Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya defused the bomb and did away with the danger. SAYYID IMAM SEEMS TO HAVE JUST STOPPED THE TIMER…”


24 posted on 10/08/2009 4:13:33 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Candor7

How’s that Sharia working for you Britain?

“UK:Two Christians Arrested for “Offending” a Muslim!”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2344203/posts


25 posted on 10/08/2009 4:29:42 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: PghBaldy

no it’s not - it’s submission - my - my - my - how did we come to the point of these freaks taking office and seizing the US...I mean - Reagan was president not long ago - have we fallen so fast?


26 posted on 10/08/2009 4:30:23 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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To: dianed

Not to mention the tax break they’ll get


27 posted on 10/08/2009 4:30:58 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: PghBaldy

muzzie faggot marxist usurper in chief.

LLS


28 posted on 10/08/2009 4:47:29 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: 444Flyer; Lady Jag; LucyT
The MUZZIES in the USA use Sharia law by invokining the "arbitration laws" of various states, and make sure that the matters aribitrated are done so with a licensed arbitrator who uses Sharia Law , and is a Muslim, often a Mullah.

The parties agree to the arbitration via contract before going into "arbitration".

The arbitration result can then be registered with a State court, and the courts enforcement procedures used to enforce the arbitration order derived from Sharia proceedings.This only applies to civikl causes.Punishment is administered illegally and quietly by Muslim enforcer thugs

Depending on what state you live in, Sharia is already being used inside Muzzie communities. That is why we have honor killings, the POSs who do them make the mistake of believing they live under a Sharia system when they get angry and flip out.

Its good Pulitzer material for someone brave enough to tackle the topic. But it also could get one killed.

29 posted on 10/08/2009 4:57:12 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Candor7; PghBaldy
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30 posted on 10/08/2009 5:20:22 PM PDT by LucyT (Please Donate to FR. . . 10% donations first week = 70 day freepathon.)
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To: PghBaldy; Velveeta; WestCoastGal; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; milford421; Godzilla; MestaMachine
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Ping.

Check out the comments, too.

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31 posted on 10/08/2009 5:24:56 PM PDT by LucyT (Please Donate to FR. . . 10% donations first week = 70 day freepathon.)
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To: PghBaldy
The next crazy, ridiculous thing we are going to hear is something insane like Obama wants to bring the Taleban into the Afghan government and be friends. Oh, wait a minute. Never mind...

Barack Obama: Taleban can be involved in Afghanistan future

32 posted on 10/08/2009 5:30:05 PM PDT by Gritty (We are content and happy if Obama can stay forever as president of America - Muammar Gadhafi)
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To: dianed
Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death

This is the reason the libs will never go for Sharia

33 posted on 10/08/2009 5:31:26 PM PDT by notaliberal (Right-wing extremist)
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To: LucyT
Women as cattle under Sharia law.

What do we misunderstand?

34 posted on 10/08/2009 6:08:27 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: notaliberal

“Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death...
This is the reason the libs will never go for Sharia.”

Yeah, but what if they dropped the stoning part?


35 posted on 10/08/2009 6:52:43 PM PDT by dianed
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To: tillacum
"I wonder why these people come here if they dislike our laws and country so much"

Muslims are duty bound by their 'relgion' to conquer the world for Islam.

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

THE KORAN PROMISES COUNTRIES TO CONQUER AND THE SPOILS THERIN:

Sura 33 "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .

MUSLIMS ARE INSTRUCTED IN THE KORAN TO BE STILL UNTIL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE INVADED: "Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).

"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

THE FOUNDER OF CAIR HAS TOLD US PLAINLY OF ISLAM'S OBJECTIVE IN AMERICA:

"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

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36 posted on 10/08/2009 8:14:51 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: PghBaldy

I gather they think masses of Americans

are as clueless as their women are . . . and their men are . . .

and too many “Americans” have been proving them too right on that score.


37 posted on 10/08/2009 8:29:07 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: dianed

ONE REASON

ISLAM = GENOCIDE


38 posted on 10/08/2009 9:27:29 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: dianed

Can’t really see #5 being allowed by the Dims. They are quite fond of those things from #10 and, oh, yeah, #4 would kind of bum them out, too. There might be a lot of one-handed folks in Congress if #7 makes it through committee. Could happen...just sayin’.


39 posted on 10/08/2009 10:19:32 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: boatbums

“There might be a lot of one-handed folks in Congress if #7 makes it through committee.”

LOL

They’d have to rename the city, Washing-one...D.C.


40 posted on 10/09/2009 12:30:49 AM PDT by dianed
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To: PghBaldy

41 posted on 10/09/2009 8:36:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: PghBaldy; All

“appearing on a British television show hosted by a member of an extremist group - Hizb ut Tahir al-Islami party (Islamic Party of Liberation) http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/hizb-ut-tahrir.htm Dalia Mogahed, a high-profile member of President Barack Obama’s Faith Advisory Council, has taken part in a Hizb ut-Tahrir (HT) run televised discussion programme on the UK-based Islam Channel alongside two members of HT.
CTN BRIEFING: Obama’s advisor and Hizb ut-Tahrir: A missed opportunity?
CTN 07/10/2009

During the 45-minute discussion programme, in which Mogahed took part via phone, she did not challenge the two HT’s members’ overt advocacy of the Caliphate or their wider interpretation of Islam and likewise she did not attempt to promote democratic, pluralist and secular values. During the programme, HT members openly:

- Called for the re-creation of “Islamic Khilafah state” in which they said that women are “not permitted to hold a position of leadership in government”.
- Called for Sharia law to be “the source of legislation” and for “strict regulation in terms of social laws” (saying that “men and women cannot socialize” and “they cannot be alone together”).
- Attacked secular “man-made law” and the west’s “lethal cocktail” of “liberty” and “capitalism” which they blamed for “promiscuity”, “pornography”, “teenage pregnancies” and “adultery”.

During the 45-minute debate, Dalia Mogahed did not directly challenge the HT members on any of these issues.

A spokesman for Counter-Terrorism News, said:

“HT is a group that advocates creating a non-democratic apartheid state based on institutional discrimination on the basis of religion and gender. It also has a record, in the UK and elsewhere, of inspiring individuals to commit terrorist violence. It is vital that prominent political figures not empower such Islamist organisations through engaging with them uncritically. Engagement for engagement’s sake risks empowering such extremists rather than isolating them. Dalia Mogahed has given Hizb ut-Tahrir a propaganda coup.”
http://www.counterterrorismnews.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1468:ctn-briefing-obamas-advisor-and-hizb-ut-tahrir-a-missed-opportunity&catid=47:americas&Itemid=37


42 posted on 10/09/2009 10:53:40 AM PDT by anglian
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