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Croatian NGO plans monument to Nazi collaborator Ante Pavelic
Jerusalem Post ^

Posted on 10/08/2009 1:09:41 PM PDT by kronos77

Croatian extreme right-wing NGO The Croatian Cultural Movement (HUP) has announced plans to erect a monument in honor of former Croatian president Ante Pavelic in Zagreb, Croatia, this December.

Ante Pavelić visiting Hitler at Berghof. SLIDESHOW: Israel & Region | World

HUP president Tomislav Dragun has been quoted as saying that the monument will stand adjacent to the capital's central square.

Pavelic, the president of Croatia during World War II, was known for his state-organized terror campaign against Jews, Serbs, Gypsies and anti-fascist Croats. He was installed as the president of the Independent State of Croatia (NDH) in 1941, a puppet state of the Nazi regime which included Bosnia and part of Dalmatia.

Efraim Zuroff, the Israel director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, slammed the proposed monument, saying it "constitutes an outrageous falsification of Croatia's World War II history and is an insult not only to the memory of the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians - Serbs, Jews, Roma and anti-fascist Croatians - murdered by the Ustashe, but to any person with any sense of moral integrity and knowledge of the history of Croatia during the years 1941-1945. I am certain that saner minds in Zagreb will prevail to halt this infuriating initiative."

Between 1941 and 1945, the fascist Ustashe regime was notorious for its policies of oppression, persecution and murderous brutality, specifically directed against Orthodox Serbs and Jews. The regime established numerous concentration camps, including the Jasenovac complex, the largest of the Croatian camps, which is estimated to have killed between 8,000 and 25,000 of the approximately 40,000 Croatian Jews that perished during World War II. Throughout the war, figures estimate that the Ustashe regime murdered close to 700,000 people.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: croatia; jews; nazi; serbs

1 posted on 10/08/2009 1:09:41 PM PDT by kronos77
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Ping!


2 posted on 10/08/2009 1:11:06 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Only Nazi collaborators I ever read about who were written up twice for abusing prisoners - by the SS.


3 posted on 10/08/2009 1:14:23 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

One SS Commander (I think named Fick) complained to Himmler about the brutality of the Ustashe. Needs no explanation really.


4 posted on 10/08/2009 1:16:16 PM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: SolidWood
And in Bosnia, Serbs we're saved by German SS units and ...
No cr*p. It true. They ran away from Croats to seek protection by German SS units...
5 posted on 10/08/2009 1:31:36 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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The Ustashe beastliness was beyond description - imprisoning a family in their house and setting fire to it - carrying around buckets of Serb eyeballs they’d gouged out - yes, they were too raw for even the Nazis.


6 posted on 10/08/2009 1:32:50 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: RoadTest
The Ustashe beastliness was beyond description - imprisoning a family in their house and setting fire to it - carrying around buckets of Serb eyeballs they’d gouged out - yes, they were too raw for even the Nazis.

Actually, the Ustase laughed at the Germans for "spending too much money on bullets and gas, when a knife would do just as well"

The Srbosjek

Srbosjek (literally "Serb cutter" in Croatian and Serbian, often referred to as "cutthroat") was a specially designed knife used by the Ustaše during World War II for the speedy killing of prisoners in the concentration camps of the Nazi-puppet Independent State of Croatia (NDH), most notably the Jasenovac concentration camp. The victims were Serbs, Jews, and Roma, imprisoned on 'ethnic' grounds, and significant numbers of Croats, imprisoned on the grounds that they were Partisan resistance members, or on the suspicion of taking part in anti-fascist activities.[1]

Preferring to cut the throats of their concentration camp prisoners instead of gassing them, the Ustaše required a special tool. The knife was manufactured during World War II by German factory Gebrüder Gräfrath from Solingen-Widderit under a special order from the NDH government.[2]. Gebrüder Gräfrath was taken over in 1961 by Hubertus Solingen [3].

The upper part of the srbosjek was made of leather, as a sort of a glove, designed to be worn with the thumb going through the hole, so that only the blade protruded from the hand. It was a curved, 12 cm long knife with the edge on its concave side. The knife was fastened to a bowed oval copper plate, while the plate was fastened to a thick leather bangle. There was inscription "Gräwiso" on the leather part of the knife, and the knife was also known as the 'graviso knife' because of this. The blade was curved in order to make it easier to slit the throat of the victim, following the curvature of the neck.[2][4][5] Thus, the Srbosjek knife was designed to kill as fast as possible and with as little fatigue as possible.[6]

In the Jasenovac concentration camp competitions in speedy slaughter were organized by the Ustaše. The winner of one such competition, Petar Brzica slit the throats of 1,360 prisoners.[7]

7 posted on 10/08/2009 1:50:30 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: kronos77
"And in Bosnia, Serbs we're saved by German SS units and ... No cr*p. It true. They ran away from Croats to seek protection by German SS units..."

A friend of mine's mother escaped with the help of "a nice German officer" (her words). She was 16 at the time, and the officer came to her family and told them to pack up and get out of there because the Ustase were coming through next day to round them all up to kill them. He gave them the passes necessary to get out of Croatia, which they did. The next day, her entire village was destroyed and the inhabitants murdered.

My friend was actually born in a relocation camp in Germany after the war.

8 posted on 10/08/2009 1:57:45 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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“It is good if Germans enter the village. They will just kill you ore maybe even let you live, but wont slaughter and mutilate you.”
Words of my late grandmother, comparing Germans with Croats
9 posted on 10/08/2009 2:02:09 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
"“It is good if Germans enter the village. They will just kill you ore maybe even let you live, but wont slaughter and mutilate you.”

The Germans did a lot of slaughtering, including killing 100 Serbs for every German soldier killed, but en masse German soldiers weren't sadists like the Ustase.

How anyone could want to build a monument to a leader of this kind of depraved behavior is beyond me!

10 posted on 10/08/2009 2:11:35 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: kronos77
Hopefully, one day Pavelic's bones will be disinterred from the San Isidro cemetery in Madrid, and buried, where they belong, in a vat of manure.

Pavelic's Ustase embarrassed even Hitler's SS with their violence and wanton cruelty.

11 posted on 10/08/2009 2:35:00 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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Until just a few years ago, you could buy "Ustashi memorabilia" on eBay -- not just the original historical stuff -- but rather modern shot glasses with the Ustashi crest, t-shirts, a 1982 Pavelic commemoration medal, etc. All the stuff that glorified their evil deeds was being freely peddled.

While I have mixed feelings about suppressing any kind of trade or speech, if you are going to purge the Nazi stuff, then purge it all.

Anyway, we talked to the eBay corporate guys and they said, "You know, I've got two PhD's sitting here with an interest in history, but until you told us about this and we researched it, we had never heard of the Ustasi or what they'd done. Consider them gone on eBay."

They've had to shoot down some people who tried to sneak stuff through the first few years, but they don't sell that stuff on eBay anymore.

12 posted on 10/08/2009 3:57:05 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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The modern-day Croats falsify what happened in Jasenovac, too.


13 posted on 10/08/2009 5:39:02 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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14 posted on 10/08/2009 6:50:48 PM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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The modern-day Croats falsify what happened in Jasenovac, too.

You mean like Dio?...Well, why don't just we ask him?

15 posted on 10/08/2009 11:09:23 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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"The modern-day Croats falsify what happened in Jasenovac, too."

"You mean like Dio?...Well, why don't just we ask him?"

Dio hasn't been around for at least six months.

16 posted on 10/09/2009 9:35:22 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
HUP is a fringe party, but they speak openly what 70% of Croats think, at least according to the public polls.

"Great Leader Adolph Hitler and Dr. Ante Pavelic call you ...join Croatian Waffen SS units"

Most Croatians think positively about Ante Pavelic and WWII Independent State of Croatia. On public places, such as concerts, thousands raise right hand in Nazi salute. One of the most chilling pictures I have seen was a picture of young family with children age 4-6 wearing Ustasha uniforms. Evil spirit, reincarnated. It is chilling, because I can see Ustasha evil coming back twenty years from now.

17 posted on 10/09/2009 12:38:53 PM PDT by DTA
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"One of the most chilling pictures I have seen was a picture of young family with children age 4-6 wearing Ustasha uniforms. Evil spirit, reincarnated. It is chilling, because I can see Ustasha evil coming back twenty years from now."

20 years from now? It's here already. Young Croat soccer players chanting for the Ustashe.

18 posted on 10/09/2009 1:12:23 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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