Posted on 10/08/2009 5:41:46 AM PDT by Zakeet
Former House majority leader Tom Delay, who last night dropped out of ABC's "Dancing With The Stars," has once again expressed skepticism that President Obama is a citizen of the United States.
That aligns DeLay, a Republican once known as "The Hammer," with the so-called "birther" movement. The birthers' claims have repeatedly been shown to be illegitimate.
Newsweek noted in an interview with DeLay that he "got into some trouble for saying on TV that you weren't sure President Obama was born in the United States."
"What I said was, to answer a question from Chris Matthews, I said: Why wouldn't the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate?," DeLay responded. "You have to show a birth certificate to play Little League baseball. It's a question that should be answered. It's in the Constitution that you have to be a natural-born citizen of the United States to be president."
Asked Newsweek: "Do you think he isn't a citizen?"
"I have no idea," said DeLay.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
There really are some valid reasons why Obozo hasn't produced a birth certificate.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Asked Newsweek: “Do you think he isn’t a citizen?”
“I have no idea,” said DeLay.
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and nor do the rest of us...
I’m suspecting that when his Marxist mentors burned his past, they got to his birth certificate as well. It’s not in Hawaii’s file drawers any more.
Willfully misunderstanding the issue. His citizenship is not the issue. His status as "natural-born" is what matters.
bump
But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what's reasonable has to take over.
Still waiting to see that overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
He made a fool of himself and played into the hands of the left who look for stuff like this.
I don’t know if this even an accurate record of the conversation. There are two major camps in the birther ranks. Some think the problem is that Bummer was born outside of the USA, while others think the problem is that Bummer was born in the USA but to foreign subjects.
Well, they do understand one condition that would disqualify the Bummer.
And then there's the third group who thinks that the first two are simply speculation, but who are nonetheless very suspicious and curious as to why Obama has gone to such lengths to hide his birth certificate and other records.
I think he did OK, though he might have improved on it by expounding on the finer points of natural born citizenship. (As if See BS News would have told us about it anyway.)
It mostly boils down to “Orly Taitz is a quixotic idiot.”
The Bummer’s progress from a Democrat hopeful to the Oval Office was one big buck-passing orgy and now we are wondering how this conundrum could ever happen in our (once) great country. Republicans as well as Democrats fell asleep or played possum at the switch.
I suspect the reason Obama hasn’t released his BC is because he doesn’t have one...he was probably born in a mud hut somewhere in Kenya with a tribal witch doctor shaking some bones over him.
Why, I thought he was in prison somewhere for crimes against humanity or some such. I recall he was ceremoniously removed from CONgre$$ as the most corrupt being on the face of the planet. What's he doing appearing in public on Dancing with the Stars and featured in a seeBS article?
That would certainly explain a lot!
And don’t forget the group that thinks Barry might be NBC technically, but spent his early adult years reaping the benefits of his Indonesian citizenship derived from his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, and never actually got a legal name change when he decided to become Barack Hussein Obama.
I prefer the term “Manchurian Candidaters”...
Perhaps if we start using it, it will stick.
Certainly makes a stronger and more accurate point.
True. If someone is able to prove he is NOT constitutionally eligible, they've failed to do it effectively and legally. They certainly have a lot of circumstantial evidence, but not enough to force the door open.
Nor have they yet found a way to force Obama to prove he IS constitutionally eligible.
There's a stalemate at this point, and it favors the guy in office.
So if I decide to apply for a job, any job, in the USA it is up to the prospective employer to prove I am ineligible - or in the absense of any evidence to the contrary - hire me?
That’s not how the rest of American jobs work. Why should the presidency?? Even if you apply for the job of dog catcher, you will need to prove your eligibility for the I-9 employement form. The employer is required to verify you are eligible.
Wee-wee applied for this job. Has yet to demonstrate he’s legally qualified to even hold it.
Seems rather determined NOT to, in fact. Why is that?
> He made a fool of himself and played into the hands of the left who look for stuff like this.
Has to be said. It was a massive setup (the left didn’t just look for it, they arranged for it), and he twinkled-toed right into it.
Never have many, tried so hard, and been so willing to commit treason.
when I clicked a link to this story it took me to CBS.com where it opened up a survey window asking for my opinions on CBS News....in case any of you are interested....
The Obama campaign released Mr. Obama's Certificate of Live Birth during the presidential campaign. The president's original birth certificate was not released by the state of Hawaii because state law prohibits doing so except under extenuating circumstances; Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, has said she has seen it and that it verifies Mr. Obama's birth and citizenship.
This mendacious paragraph is enough to make anyone who is not already a birther a birther. First, it says the Obama campaign released the Illegal Alien's "Certificate of Live Birth," an outright falsehood. The document released was a "Certification of Live Birth," which is a secondary document based on the original "Certificate of Live Birth," that the Illegal Alien has spent more than a million dollars to keep hidden.
Then it goes on to say, "the state of Hawaii [hasn't released the Certificate] because state law prohibits doing so except under extenuating circumstances," but fails to mention that one of those circumstances is the person covered by the certificate authorizing its release, precisely what the Illegal Alien has refused to do.
If the Illegal Alien's defenders have to resort to totally false and disingenuous defenses like this, that's strong evidence indicating he's not a citizen.
States need to be amending their statutes to include specific language about proof of citizenship before a person can be included on a ballot. Now is the time to do this.
You used the word “should.”
I’m talking about what “is.” You can either prove he’s ineligible and get him out or you can’t.
If you read the constitution, there is no one tasked with verifying elibility requirements. That “should” be fixed, but it hasn’t been and isn’t being.
I say this as someone who thinks Obama “should” produce his long form certificate. I have found no way to force that, nor have any number of smarter, far more famous minds than my own. If you have a way to force it, go for it.
In other news, partisan Democrat hacks STILL have not brought Tom DeLay’s prosecution to trial.
Wouldn't that mean that she has illegally inspected the document if "she's seen it" and it is off limits?
When Democrat hacks violated the powers of their office in Ohio and snooped Joe the Plumber's records, there was legal reprisal.
And that is the whole p;oint, NO ONE KNOWS.
We do know his father is British, and THAT alone makes him ineligible for POTUS, he is a Dual citizen.
Why, I thought he was in prison somewhere for crimes against humanity or some such. I recall he was ceremoniously removed from CONgre$$ as the most corrupt being on the face of the planet. What's he doing appearing in public on Dancing with the Stars and featured in a seeBS article?
In other news, Charles Rangel will be permitted by "the most ethical congress ever" Democrats to remain in the ways and means chair while he fights charges he was a tax cheat. Ted Poe (R-TX) voted "present".
Update: House Dems move to quash Remove Rangel resolution, 243-156 (10/7/2009 Michelle Malkin)
I always did like Tom DeLay.
Millions of Americans should send blank I-9’s to the Whitehouse....
Millions of Americans should send blank I-9’s to the Whitehouse....
Actually, his citizenship IS an issue, whether he is Natural Born, is an issue for holding the office of POTUS.
If he is not naturalized, then he may not be a US Citizen at all, in any capacity.
There is evidence that he was adopted by Lolo Soetero in Indonesia, and then had a legal name change to Barry Soetero. There is no evidence that I have seen, and I have followed this closely, that he ever had a legal name change in the US to Barak Hussien Obama II.
Therefore, he may not be a US Citizen, rather an Indonesian citizen, before which he could have been born in Kenya which would make him a British Subject.
Nothing I have seen has proven him to be a US Citizen, Natural Born, naturalized, or anything else.
for that statement to be correct (chasing windmills), she would have to be ineffective.
the recent court ruling, says your incorrect on her goals, and not very good a judge of character and intelligence if you think she is an idiot.
Remember, when you point a finger at someone, one points to that person, and three point at you...
Ah, argument by cliche. The best kind!
Thomas Dale DeLay (born April 8, 1947) in Laredo, Texas is a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives who represented Sugar Land, Texas from 1984 until 2006. He was Republican House Majority Leader from 2003–2005, when his legal problems forced him to step down. In 2005, a Texas court charged DeLay with criminal violations of state campaign finance laws and money laundering. DeLay pled not guilty, claiming political motivation for the charges. As of October 2009, the prosecutor has yet to bring the case before a jury. Two former senior aides to DeLay have been convicted in the Jack Abramoff scandal, and though the infamous lobbyist was closely associated with DeLay, the former congressman himself has not been legally implicated at this time.
Anyhow, that’s what the birther skeptics are saying. She’s not typical of conservatives, who mostly are taking a pragmatic view that Obama has to go out like he went in.
The order for discovery by Judge Cook, allows the council on both sides to find out the facts that Obama sealed.
Your partially right, we don’t know, but our hands were tied, now we can find out.
I suspect, as many do, that he has withheld this information for good reason. What that reason is, will be determined when we get the information and it is examined.
Wait and see is the watchword.
a trite or obvious remark?
I presume that the body of my text was not refuted, and your only comment is on finger pointing, hardly obvious to most, and certainly not trite. Right on, I would say..
Thanks. You’ve followed it more closely than I have. I have no doubt that there is something there to find: Obama is trying to darn hide to hide his past. Any reasonable person ought to be trying to see what’s behind the curtain.
“overwhelming evidence to the contrary”
Like beauty, whether the evidence is “overwhelming” is in the eye of the beholder:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/
We’ll be waiting .....
“This mendacious paragraph” ... um, if you are going to use that term, better not to call someone who’s been verified to be a citizen an ‘illegal alien’ in that same paragraph.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”
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