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Financial Bust Connected to Illegal Alien Mortgages
Human Events ^ | October 5, 2009 | William Campenni

Posted on 10/07/2009 6:45:59 PM PDT by machogirl

In the Medieval era -- when the periodic table of the elements was comprised of only Fire, Earth, Air, and Water -- alchemists posited the existence of a fifth magical substance, Quintessence, which when mixed in combinations of the other four would create every other form of matter. They searched in vain for this ethereal substance in their pursuit of a means of changing base metals into gold.

Their quest went unrealized, but this magical quintessence was subsequently discovered five centuries later by the new alchemists: mortgage bankers and investors. They found a way to turn worthless mortgages into hordes of gold. Or at least they thought they had.

There were other factors that contributed to the collapse of the credit markets. Low interest rates by the Federal Reserve, lowered standards by FannieMae and FreddyMac, securitized mortgages (derivatives and collateralized debt obligations -- a real alchemic brew), the machinations of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, the Community Reinvestment Act, Alan Greenspan, and so forth. etc. But of themselves, and even in concert, they could not have brought about a collapse of the magnitude that ensued.

So what supplied this quintessential element? It was the opportunity to exploit the sudden and coincidental housing needs of millions of illegal aliens with subprime mortgages. The grand schemes and diabolical financial instruments would otherwise lie fallow without a huge base of mortgages to hold up the Ponzi pyramid, and the new market of the 12 -- more likely 20 -- million housing-starved illegal alien populace was the ripe, low hanging fruit.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; aliens; bhoeconomy; corruption; democrats; economy; fanniemae; financial; fraud; freddiemac; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; invasion; mortgages; subprimemortgage
We've heard this before and I believe it to be TRUE. This is a newer article on the housing MESS.
1 posted on 10/07/2009 6:46:00 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

bi.. bu.. but Bawney Fwank says it’s not true. < / sarc


2 posted on 10/07/2009 6:47:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: machogirl

Although illegal alien loans may be a big problem, I believe loans to people who could NOT pay (i.e. other groups) also contributed!


3 posted on 10/07/2009 6:48:43 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrat party has always been the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism and surrender)
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To: SandRat

JD Hayworth was doing a really good impression of Barney a few minutes ago. JD could have a career in stand-up comedy if he wanted to. He does a mean Charlie Rangel too.


4 posted on 10/07/2009 6:49:15 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl
One would sell to another and pocket the profit for remittance to Mexico.
5 posted on 10/07/2009 6:50:45 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: goodnesswins

Absolutely true. And those people weren’t able to figure out that they couldn’t afford it either.

Some neighborhoods in the outlying areas of Phx are devastated by foreclosures and short sales. Somebodies, lots of bodies made mucho dinero off of this false rise in property valuation and sales.


6 posted on 10/07/2009 6:51:35 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Cheetahcat

It wouldn’t surprise me if the drug cartels and human smugglers got into this enterprise also.


7 posted on 10/07/2009 6:53:01 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

bump to the top


8 posted on 10/07/2009 6:54:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSM BIAS: the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell)
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To: machogirl

One of the things I will never forget about this Obamess is something that I heard last fall, when everything started going to hell to set Bammie up for his BIG win. I heard a story on FNC about a woman in Detroit who had mortgages on eight properties (that’s one more than John McCain) that she wasn’t making payments on. The story went on to say that she ran home to Mississippi to get out of the mess she was in. It wasn’t long after that when all hell broke loose.


9 posted on 10/07/2009 6:55:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America! We're spending our grandchildren's inheritance!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I have this feeling she wasn’t alone. I heard stories here in Phx of people doing that. Getting the mortgages all on the same day, fake financial income, then trying to flip them quickly to make money without any investment and by FRAUD.


10 posted on 10/07/2009 7:01:59 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Let’s see.......... Illegals somehow got mortgages with no problems, but we’re to believe they won’t be able to get public option healthcare?


11 posted on 10/07/2009 7:02:13 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: machogirl

I think that was what they were implying with this story. She was up to no good. Or renting out the properties and not making her mortgage payments.


12 posted on 10/07/2009 7:05:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America! We're spending our grandchildren's inheritance!)
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To: machogirl
“It wouldn’t surprise me if the drug cartels and human smugglers got into this enterprise also.”

That is a good point and I believe it.

13 posted on 10/07/2009 7:10:12 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: umgud

good reasoning. we’re screwed.


14 posted on 10/07/2009 7:16:26 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: FlingWingFlyer

sounds like a prime ACORN candidate.


15 posted on 10/07/2009 7:17:09 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

“We’ve heard this before and I believe it to be TRUE”

“Believe” it to be true? It HAS to be true!

Millions of illegal invaders who HAD to live SOMEWHERE and whom we allowed into finance and banking transactions and home buying, WITHOUT troubling ourselve to find out WHO they were. Lets just say that they HAD to be a market force and factor unto themselves.


16 posted on 10/07/2009 7:18:29 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: machogirl

LOL! I wouldn’t be surprised to find that she already is in with ACORN.


17 posted on 10/07/2009 7:18:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America! We're spending our grandchildren's inheritance!)
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To: machogirl
I wonder who coached illegals and others to get those mortgages, Illegally, and
through fraud. Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmm.
18 posted on 10/07/2009 7:19:25 PM PDT by MaxMax (Obama can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: goodnesswins

I believe loans to people who can’t pay was the entirety of the problem. Overexuberant loans to illegal aliens was part of the problem. What people don’t understand about immigrants is their view of money. In America, if you don’t have money, put it on a card, borrow against their equity etc. When you live in the third world if you don’t have cash, you get skinny fast.
The problem arose because for decades the value of real estate went up so predictably if you lost your job you could sell your house and be OK. When the values dropped when the bubbled popped, thats when the forclosures crushed the market.


19 posted on 10/07/2009 7:20:38 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (STATE CONTROLLED ECONOMIES SUCK ! LONG LIVE AMERICA.)
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To: MaxMax

I wonder?
mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmm


20 posted on 10/07/2009 7:23:47 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Maybe ACORN organizer?


21 posted on 10/07/2009 7:25:58 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: TalBlack

you are correct. it is TRUE. one family in my neighborhood overpaid by at least 100k on a house. the house is now in foreclosure and i’m not sure if they went back to mexico or on to another state.


22 posted on 10/07/2009 7:28:10 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

Incidently, I was in that category. I bought a house for less than I was paying for rent and paid exactly $154 down. That was the bug inspection. Financed the rest. 4 years later I went from high 5 figure money to 0 income for a few months. got up to 3 months back on my mortgage, sold everything I owned on craigslist and moved to VA to get a job. I sold my garden hose, my birdfeeder in the back yard, all but one extension cord, every piece of furniture I own, just cleared the place. Had tenents tear the crap out of my house and drive up repairs. I ate bulk frozen hamburger and ramen noodles for a long time, but I succeeded in my job and still have the house. Didn’t take a giant, overfunded government program, I sacrificed and protected myself. That is basic American resourcefulness, but I fear that the current administration does not trust that to drive an economy.

See my tagline.


23 posted on 10/07/2009 7:37:28 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (STATE CONTROLLED ECONOMIES SUCK ! LONG LIVE AMERICA.)
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To: machogirl

Don’t tell anyone we “KNOW”.


24 posted on 10/07/2009 7:51:25 PM PDT by MaxMax (Obama can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: MaxMax

okey dokey, lips are sealed. ;)


25 posted on 10/07/2009 7:52:23 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: machogirl
Friend of mine told me of his house sale in Dallas a couple of years ago. Seems he got a buyer and the salesperson said sit back and wait. A week or so later he gets a call saying there is a problem with the loan. The buyers SS# didn't match up. So, instead of calling ICE, they said get a SS# that "works". He tried again with another number, but apparently they were just checking the wrong obituaries. The second turn down and the guy headed for Mexico.

He finally got a good buyer and went on with his life, but it got me to thinking. How many of us have checked our Credit reports and found we have a repo house in El Paso will bill collectors looking for us? Tancredo said he KNEW of 250,000 in Colorado when he was running for president. Just think how many there might be in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona?

26 posted on 10/07/2009 8:43:27 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

A whole hell of a lot.


27 posted on 10/07/2009 8:52:07 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: MaxMax
I wonder who coached illegals and others to get those mortgages

Coaching wasn't necessary. The only requirement was being able to fog a mirror. I suspect that requirement was dropped in many instances /s

28 posted on 10/08/2009 1:35:35 AM PDT by Black Birch
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To: machogirl

It does not matter! Rinos need the Hispanic criminal vote!/s/


29 posted on 10/08/2009 10:34:01 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: machogirl

Not a bad article, although I wish it had notes to research the validity of his points.


30 posted on 10/08/2009 11:16:53 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Rick_Michael

good point. i thought about checking those sites here in phx if i get time.

this is one of the hot spots.


31 posted on 10/08/2009 12:03:41 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: SaraJohnson

stupid rhino’s won’t even get it. mccain was mr. shamnesty and i believe that he did worse than bush did in “hispanic vote pandering”.


32 posted on 10/08/2009 12:05:16 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Rick_Michael; SwinneySwitch; Hydroshock; AuntB; WOSG

border bump


33 posted on 10/08/2009 12:22:40 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: umgud

Yep, you got it.


34 posted on 10/08/2009 12:23:47 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: machogirl

BTT


35 posted on 10/08/2009 1:56:15 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: machogirl

“It wouldn’t surprise me if the drug cartels and human smugglers got into this enterprise also.”

Not to mention funding the likes of LARaza (as taxpayers also do!) and corrupting TOO many of our politicians and ‘public servants’...MONEY TALKS


36 posted on 10/08/2009 1:59:03 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: CPT Clay

BTT!


37 posted on 10/08/2009 2:01:25 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

i’ll bet there’s a whole story in that, which the “investigative journalists” in this town and across America don’t want to look at.


38 posted on 10/08/2009 5:53:44 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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