Posted on 10/06/2009 1:38:31 PM PDT by IdahoPatriot
Between the town hall meetings and the tea party rallies, millions of Americans are taking to the streets to protest a government gone berserk. They are angry and determined to take their country back. But there are snakes in the grass intent on using this movement to return to power, not the people, but the Republican establishment. If this happens we lose everything, including our country.
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Bay Buchanan worked for Mitt Romney against conservatives and before that for Pat Buchanan against all Republicans and she criticizes others for betraying conservatism??
We’ve known this for a long time now-—just look at the GOP hatchet men trying to bury Sarah Palin-—and failing.
Seems mighty hypocritical doesn’t it...
One of the reasons we have Obama is because the Republican Party undermined the conservative movement in the 2008 primaries.
The RINO’s are attempting to make a comeback!
Stop them in their tracks!
Be Ever Vigilant!
IP signed up Nov 2008 and around 17 posts in 9 months.
We have two parties, one wins, one loses.
Too many third party posters are undermining the the opportunity to block Obama in congress and to replace him in 2012
Wrong beware. It is the libertarian types, and third party pushers, like the author of this thread, we should beware of. I say throw out the Rino’s and the squishy GOP leadership, and have a conservative Repub party.
All this third party hype is going to do is insure the left will remain in power by splitting the vote.
I heard today that Corzine who had been trailing his challenger Christy in polls for NJ Governor by about 14 points has now moved to a dead heat. I guess NJ realizes again that if we’re going to vote for a leftist with a shady background may as well go with the experts in the field and stay with the democrat.
Most of the Republican “leadership” would rather lose than allow conservative candidates.
AMEN, very astute observation!
Spot on...
we have people in the Republican Party undermining the conservative movement!!!
John McCain for one.
"If you are unhappy with the Republican establishment, then let's get a new establishment,"
Conservatives actually expect things to get done, and that interfers with tee time.
There’s a little good news...It looks like JD Hayworth is going to run against McCain. The only problem is that there’s a bunch of conservatives already backing Chris Simcox who was the leader of the MINUTEMEN and is running. He has baggage. He will lose against McCain. I think Hayworth is our shot.
This is the only solution we have time for. If all fails in 2010 and 2012 then we will have nothing but time to form another celebrate our membership in the single Obama Fascist Party.
Bay Buchanan worked for Mitt Romney against conservatives and before that for Pat Buchanan against all Republicans and she criticizes others for betraying conservatism??
I recall she was also hooked up with the Ross Perot crowd (hosting a radio show on the UAW’s network!) back in the 90’s
Palin was Pat Buchanan’s Alaska state director in 1996.
McCain will win the general with 60-70%.
Divide and conquer. Now is the time for the infiltrators to take advantage of the losing side. I went to a Tea Party in SoCal and it was reeking of infiltration. Whether they are third party malcontents, PaulBots or leftists, I do not know.
Bay Buchanan, forever an opportunist.
Despite Bay Buchanan's less-than conservative background, she makes a valid point, whatever her actual motivations, which I suspect may be to see a third party formed, which would be totally futile and ensure Democrat rule for another decade or more.
It's obvious that conservatives need to overthrow the entrenched GOP 'establishment'. We do that by financially supporting the campaigns of, working and voting for conservative candidates, ignoring what the RNC wants or who it endorses. We stop sending any of our hard-earned money to the RNC and we ignore the fake 'conservative values' BS coming from GOP 'establishment' candidates.
Bey Buchanan may be hypocritical, but she has an argument to make. It's going to be a bloody war to oust the neo-cons from controlling the GOP - but it has to be done. Our nation is in real danger from the Marxists now in power. We can't afford more mealy-mouthed, corporate types to 'represent' us (and sell us out as soon as the opportunity arises) and pretend to be 'conservative' Republicans. No more!
This is why I like Sarah Palin - because the 'establishment' Republicans don't - and the left simply loathes her. So, she must be good for America.
But wait a minute. I thought libertarians were insignificant during the campaign. So how do they suddenly become powerful on election day?
Without a message that includes libertarians, the GOP will keep losing elections.
I say throw out the Rino’s and the squishy GOP leadership, and have a conservative Repub party.
Sorry but this isn't 1980 anymore. The Republican Party still hasn't fixed their broken primary system. They are attacking people like Palin and Paul who have brought in hordes of small gov't voters back in the GOP. They are endorsing RINOs over real conservatives with grassroots support. If they keep this up, there is no alternative but to go 3rd party.
Your pathetic, small-minded name-calling is no match for the facts - it was that kook, RON PAUL, out of his memorable campaign, who initiated the Tea Party and anti-government grassroots movement as it exists today. The people that supported him are the very people who are out there at the Tea Parties and who attended the Town Halls and March on D.C., and who forced McNut to choose a libertarian-minded frontier Governor named Sarah Palin.
So keep calling libertarians and other advocates of 3rd parties names but DON'T BITCH when Republicans lose close elections because of them.
You are correct La E. I have seen the same PaulBots and know others in various other states who have seen the same thing.
They push candidates who will get 1% of the vote if they are lucky and they hand out flyers advertising their 9/11 Truther movie.
These are the people we can thank for the likes of Obama and his bunch.
Everyone has baggage.
Reading on Wiki about how Hayworth lost his congressional seat, it seems that:
1. He was closely tied to Jack Abramoff. You can bet this will come back, but at least Hayworth will have four years of Democrat scandals to weaken this attack.
2. The local newspaper turned on Hayworth and accused him of being overbearing, withdrawing their endorsement of him. This is the kind of personal attack that they will go with, that he has a temper and is difficult to work with.
-PJ
Palin was not a supporter of Buchanan. that has been proven false.
They had a convention in Alaska and as a courtesy welcomed them.
Only the Liberals and the other fringe groups still try to push that crap.
Sarah was not supporter of Buchanan.
She has a fan club. That's nice. She needs an organization! Build it, dammit, build it. We are here for her. The money is here for her. Build it, dammit, build it.
You raised a good point, your last one anyway. A sad state of affairs in the GOP, indeed. You mentioned 1980, I have no doubt, considering the Orwellian nightmare we now have, that real conservatives out there are mad enough with the GOP leadership to bring back what we had in 1980.
Sarah Palin has always denied claims that she was a Buchanan supporter:
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2008/08/31/999533/sarah-palin-mazen-asbahi-and-the-stifling-of-democracy
“”Except that, in real time, she corrected the impression in a letter to a local newspaper: “When presidential candidates visit our community, I am always happy to meet them. I’ll even put on their button when handed one as a polite gesture of respect,” she wrote in a letter to the Anchorage Daily News in 1999.
I don’t entirely blame the blogger who originated the story – AP stories are likelier to come up much higher in Nexis searches then letters to the ADN editor. But, geez, couldn’t U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Fla.) have waited a little before calling McCain’s selection a “direct affront to the Jewish community”? It turns out she was an official – not just a supporter – of the Republican primaries campaign of Steve Forbes that year. (Buchanan had bolted the GOP and was running as a candidate of the Reform Party.)
That should have killed the story. But Buchanan then said he remembered her attending a fund-raiser for his 1996 GOP candidacy bid. (His sister Bay Buchanan now tells Politico it might have been for Jerry Ward, a local ally of Buchanan.) It seems credible – Buchanan, now an MSNBC analyst, corrected host Christ Matthews, who thought it had been 1992.
But so what? Let’s take what we know about Palin-Buchanan: She might have attended a fund-raiser in 1996. She didn’t give any money to Buchanan’s campaign, however, nor to Jerry Ward, and was not an official of the campaign.””
Duh!
The same old “let’s all get along and work with the President” RINOs are still there.
I keep telling everyone: kicking the Dems out next year won’t mean anything if the Republicans are just as eager to tow the Obama line.
We could be in real trouble...
These Republican frauds are all about compromise over principle, profit regardless of consequences. They've demonstrated this hundreds of times.
Unfortunately, these frauds are everywhere.
BTW, ya got some of those people, right here on this thread.
She supported Steve Forbes and the FAIR TAX
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2008/09/the_governor_palin_supported_p_1.html
The same people who consider themselves the guardians of reason, continue to offer up one Big Foot-like urban legend after another about Governor Palin. Before the Down syndrome baby-switch conspiracy theory and its subsequent demise, there was the “she supported Pat Buchanan for president” X-File. This too has been demolished, courtesy of David Bernstein at the Volokh Conspiracy:
Palin and Buchanan, II (”Timeline”):
July 17, 1999: AP reports on Pat Buchanan visit to Wasilla, AK. The reporter notes that “among those sporting Buchanan buttons were Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin and state Sen. Jerry Ward, R-Anchorage.”
July 26, 1999, letter to the editor of the Anchorage Daily News by Sarah Palin:
As mayor of Wasilla, I am proud to welcome all presidential candidates to our city. This is true regardless of their party, or the latest odds of their winning. When presidential candidates visit our community, I am always happy to meet them. I’ll even put on their button when handed one as a polite gesture of respect.
Though no reporter interviewed me for the Associated Press article on the recent visit by a presidential candidate (Metro, July 17), the article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla. As mayor, I will welcome all the candidates in Wasilla.
August 7, 1999: AP reports on Steve Forbes’ campaign in Alaska. “Joining the Fairbanks Republican on the leadership committee will be Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin, and former state GOP chairman Pete Hallgren, who will serve as co-chairs.”
This information is all available on Lexis. Anyone who continues to push the “Sarah Palin supported Pat Buchanan in 2000” line is either willfully ignorant or lying. And there is no evidence thus far except a recollection from Pat Buchanan, contradicted by his sister and campaign manager (see previous post), that she supported him in 1995.
Nothing new here. Which is why the RNC gets nothing from me but diatribes.
My bad. I’ve seen refutations of that too though. Specifically that PB did not acknowledge that. Might be true, might not. Either way, it doesn’t change my mind about Sarah.
BTW, that post wasn’t directed at you personally. It was a cut and paste from the site, in case you thought it was me addressing you.
I won’t go down with Republican socialism-lite—arguing a ‘lesser degree’ of the same leftist arguments.
They’re too ‘compassionate’ to lead a free people. Life is hard, the universe is harsh, politicians think they have a chance at changing that, arrogant fools! Humans start dying whenever it’s been tried because it is anti-life, it impossible to make life safe and fair—IT CAN’T HAPPEN IN THIS UNIVERSE.
Years from now, when I’m on my death bed, I will know I supported those who support freedom. I won’t support Republicans who, in effect, do nothing but aid the left.
If enough Americans don’t get this and the vote is ‘divided’ and the left wins elections, then you should view it as a quick death compared to a slow, agonizing one.
Voting for half-*ssed Republicans is just delaying the inevitable.
I will support those who share my values from now on, period.
When it comes to our fundamental principles a watered-down approximation will not save our Republic, I promise you that.
The writer of this article NAILED IT! Amazing article. Truth telling in a most straight forward way.
This one should get spread around.
You bet she did, and that is why this thread went mostly ignored.
From the article:
We need primaries to nominate candidates that aren’t owned by party leaders, powerful special interests, nor Corporate America.
See post #38.
"In Ohio, Rob Portman, a former pro-amnesty congressman and Bush trade rep, announced his bid for the U.S. Senate earlier this year. Then Tom Ganley, a conservative businessman from Cleveland infuriated by the massive uncontrolled spending of Washington, decided to run. Mortal sin, declared the party, which told this self-made successful businessman to get out of the race, that “the U.S. Senate isn’t an entry level position.” The NRSC endorsed Portman and are in full campaign mode.
""(Do these nitwits really think one of the architects of the Bush policy that sent our jobs overseas is going to win the general election in a state with 11% unemployment?)""
I think Hayworth is our shot.
I like Hayworth! I may be a little jaded, but maybe the dems/leftists will contribute big to mccain’s run because they could expect the same mess that happened last election to happen in the next one.
I think Hayworth is our shot.
I like Hayworth! I may be a little jaded, but maybe the dems/leftists will contribute big to mccain’s run because they could expect the same mess that happened last election to happen in the next one.
btt
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