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Substitute 'Obama' for 'Bush' and 'Afghanistan' for 'Iraq' . . . (Free Republic mentioned)
The Washington Post ^ | Tuesday, October 6, 2009 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 10/06/2009 7:10:17 AM PDT by kristinn

It was a scene repeated countless times during the Bush years:

A few hundred people massed on Pennsylvania Avenue outside the White House, wearing orange jumpsuits and hoods, holding photos of wounded children or carrying coffins. They chanted antiwar slogans, acted out waterboarding and pretended to die on the sidewalk. Those who refused orders to leave the area -- including ubiquitous activist Cindy Sheehan -- were arrested.

But the remarkable thing about this familiar antiwar demonstration is that it occurred Monday, and the target was not George W. Bush but the White House's current occupant. Protesters' signs carried Obama-specific barbs: "Change? What Change?" "The Audacity of War Crimes." "Yes We Can: U.S. Out of Afghanistan."

Several of the demonstrators had T-shirts showing a missile labeled "Obomba" and the question "Is it really OK if Obama does it?"

Besides those wording changes, the only other difference was the spiffy new natural-gas-powered Metrobus that arrived to take those arrested for processing. It said "Special" on the front and, on the side, had a McDonald's ad with the slogan "Commander-in-Beef."

SNIP

Observing the scene with some satisfaction was counter-demonstrator Phil Wilk of the conservative group Free Republic, who found himself in the odd position of defending Obama against his left-wing critics. "We're a little queasy about this," he admitted. Just to make clear that he was no Obama fan, he had a sign asserting that "Liberal Protest of Obama Doesn't Make Him a Hawk -- Just a Flip-Flopper."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bho44; codepink; dcchapter; democrats; obama

1 posted on 10/06/2009 7:10:18 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

2 posted on 10/06/2009 7:12:18 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: kristinn

: )


3 posted on 10/06/2009 7:13:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Always Right

Just perfect!


4 posted on 10/06/2009 7:13:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: kristinn
They were Green Party types with some self-proclaimed socialists thrown in, and they had never been enthusiastic Obama supporters to start with.

Puhleeeeeeeeeeeze...

5 posted on 10/06/2009 7:14:23 AM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: kristinn

Why does this guy feel queasy about defending Obama? Is that what the ideology has come to? We cannot defend the president when he does something we AGREE with because he’s a liberal? If this is where we’re at, when we just think “R = good, D = bad,” nobody is using their brain anymore.


6 posted on 10/06/2009 7:14:36 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: kristinn
Do you have a bomb shelter or escape rocket in your backyard K?
7 posted on 10/06/2009 7:15:15 AM PDT by tubebender (Santa Claus is always jolly cause he knows where all the bad girls live...)
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To: kristinn
The same could be said for many of Obama's speeches on Afghanistan, they sound a lot like Bush's speeches on Iraq several years ago.

The major difference is that Bush acted on his speeches, Obama is not.

8 posted on 10/06/2009 7:19:39 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: domenad
"Why does this guy feel queasy about defending Obama? Is that what the ideology has come to? We cannot defend the president when he does something we AGREE with because he’s a liberal? If this is where we’re at, when we just think “R = good, D = bad,” nobody is using their brain anymore."

You obviously haven't been reading Birther threads. :-)

9 posted on 10/06/2009 7:23:23 AM PDT by mlo
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To: domenad

I am not a dove...but O do not want our troops ANYWHERE under this CIC. He doesn’t care about them. He wouldn’t be having a PUBLIC debate about troop levels IF he were COMPETENT.
I’m not willing to sit back and watch our gold sacrificed for this POS.


10 posted on 10/06/2009 7:26:36 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: DTogo
The major difference is that Bush acted on his speeches, Obama is not.

The dude thinks he still has the option of voting "present".

11 posted on 10/06/2009 7:28:18 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: domenad
We cannot defend the president when he does something we AGREE with because he’s a liberal?

You can defend his policy, but a normal person would feel queasy because he's such a liar. He campaigned on junk to get in office and then he turns and ends up doing what Bush did after all. I don't really WANT to defend a person like that. It does make me queasy.

12 posted on 10/06/2009 7:29:37 AM PDT by what's up
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To: kristinn

“What the president should worry about is whether these activists are indicators of bigger things to come if he sides with his generals and decides to bulk up the U.S. force in Afghanistan.”

I have a cousin fighting there right now.

I’m not going to print what he told me, but I am very angry with this president. His dithering is not good.


13 posted on 10/06/2009 7:29:40 AM PDT by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: domenad; trooprally
He was out there for our troops and our country. Obama is flip-flopping all over the place on Afghanistan. What's there to defend about him?

You've got a lot of nerve trashing someone who's put in countless hours on the homefront supporting the war effort. If Obama loved this country and wasn't working on so many fronts to undermine it, none of us would have a problem supporting him as commander-in-chief even if he were still a liberal.

I suggest you check your own biases before you go off on someone else.

14 posted on 10/06/2009 7:33:43 AM PDT by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn
Besides those wording changes, the only other difference was the spiffy new natural-gas-powered Metrobus

Yeah, that and the fact that they was no convoy of network news trucks, the protestors weren't featured on the cover of Newsweek, and their protests didn't provide the majority of programming for Nightline and 60 Minutes for months.

15 posted on 10/06/2009 7:34:02 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: DTogo

“The major difference is that Bush acted on his speeches, Obama is not.”

I hate politicians, and I hate people that are stupid enough to believe them.

They found out a long time ago that they can say anything, the press doesn’t check and people just accept. Anytime I hear someone on TV, like Bill O’Reilly say, “But he said this” I want to throw a shoe at the TV.

NEVER listen to what they say. WATCH what they do.

They say anything, including Bush.

Vote on their basic philosophy, but be aware, when the money card comes up, they may not have the guts to or want to play it.

And this is where the absolute evil of the press has come in. They have simply decided they are not going to expose anyone whose agenda they like. And that’s liberals.


16 posted on 10/06/2009 7:35:25 AM PDT by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Marty62
I am not a dove...but O do not want our troops ANYWHERE under this CIC.

IMO, there are only two options regarding Afghanistan: double (triple) down to win, or bring everybody home.

Instead, we'll get the "Biden Plan", i.e. revert to a poorly resourced counterterrorism strategy, and lose Afghanistan and Pakistan.

My preferred strategy is a "total war" strategy, both military and diplomatic. Give McChrystal the 40K additional troops, more Predator sorties (followed by daisy cutters and bunker busters), more special ops and CIA activity, name names on who's supporting the Taliban and al Qaeda, throw a few billion of TARP money at Afghan farmers and tribal chief (then salt the $hit out of the poppy fields), give Karzai 12 months to "drain his swamp", and reassess the situation after 24 months.

17 posted on 10/06/2009 7:37:19 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: kristinn

I “trashed” the guy? All I said was he shouldn’t feel weird about agreeing with a guy on the other side of the political spectrum - when you’re right you’re right and that should be it. Don’t be such a lightweight for crying out loud, calm down.


18 posted on 10/06/2009 7:42:47 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: kristinn

...he now charges that the president is “giving a level of legitimacy to the Bush policies.”

Well, well, and well. Having to put up or shut up when dealing with reality is a bit different from the endless theory of the campaign trail isn’t it, Obozo? Better go back to being a professor where you know you’re always right about everything.

I hope the orange jumpsuit types multiply like rabbits and show up wherever The Big Zero goes.


19 posted on 10/06/2009 7:44:28 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: Always Right

Cute cartoon. I used my primitive software to turn Charlie dark brown, but I don’t know how to load it here. He’s cute in dark brown though. Sent it on to my brother for his morning chuckle. :)


20 posted on 10/06/2009 8:03:40 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: kristinn
"Liberal Protest of Obama Doesn't Make Him a Hawk -- Just a Flip-Flopper."

Way to go, Phil!

21 posted on 10/06/2009 8:04:29 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Marty62

I am not a dove either..but when I see young kids..who get estatic over a care package with candy bars in it..sacrificing their lifes because this POS decides to implement rules of engagement that get them killed...I want them pulled out.

He is too busy with date night and going to Ohio to a fund raiser.

I would love to know what is going on behind the scenes..surely Soros knows this guy is a mental train wreck.


22 posted on 10/06/2009 8:06:58 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Night Hides Not

“My preferred strategy is a “total war” strategy, both military and diplomatic”

Thank you for posting this. I find it very, very disturbing that we send our soldiers ANYWHERE without giving them free reign and full support to just get the job done thoroughly and very fast. Our military is perfectly capable of going in, striking hard and fast and getting the job done.

Frankly, our politicians remind me of a woman who is married to a wife-beater and spends 25 years trying to decide if she should leave him. Either do the job or don’t but don’t try to have things half way and then spend all the time just talking endlessly about it.


23 posted on 10/06/2009 8:08:25 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: Happyinmygarden
I was fortunate to serve during a time of peace.

Your post reminded me of a temporary duty assignment 30 years ago. During the summer of 79, it was my battalion's turn to run the admin & logistic detachment at a German anti-aircraft range near Kiel.

It was my job as Executive Officer to stay in contact with the visiting unit, to ensure they had everything they needed.

There was one battalion commander that stuck out above the rest: Jay Garner, who was a member of the provisional authority after removing Saddam from power. I could tell by his actions that he hadn't changed. General Garner's attitude was "let's do what we have to do quickly, and then turn the country back over to the Iraqis." Unfortunately, he ran afoul of Dubya and Rummy (I wonder about Cheney).

I had a blast that summer, as I was left in charge about 75% of the time. We were the only Americans for 200 miles, and I had to use imagination to get the job done, ruffling feathers along the way.

Every unit that came through gave us high marks, thanks to the great NCOs and soldiers that did their jobs for me.

A few months later, I was at my next higher HQ for a meeting, when another officer pulled me aside. Laughing, he said, "there wasn't a week that went by when I heard 'did you hear what NHN did this week?'"

Considering that no one said squat to me during those three months, they must have liked the results. Believe me, if any of those six or seven battalion commanders were dissatisfied, I would have heard immediately.

24 posted on 10/06/2009 8:36:51 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: kristinn

Is the Washington Poo still running a daily death tally of the war courtesy of antiwar groups? Or did that practice end when George Bush left office?


25 posted on 10/06/2009 8:58:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: dead

The protests still probably have a large Communist contingent. It was never revealed during the coverage of protests in the Bush terms.

But the media went out of their way to dig up information on who was “sponsoring” the tea party protests.


26 posted on 10/06/2009 9:01:02 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: I still care

I have spoken to many troops members, they are sick of Obama and the politically correct Pentagon.


27 posted on 10/06/2009 9:04:17 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: kristinn

HA! I bet Obumbo loves that. How dare they not bow down and worship the “one”.


28 posted on 10/06/2009 11:24:32 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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