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Retiring baby boomers begin heading for the country
The Oregonian ^ | October 03, 2009 | Eric Mortenson

Posted on 10/05/2009 5:57:56 PM PDT by Lorianne

They represent a migration that turns conventional wisdom on its head. Urban planners have until now proceeded on the assumption that retiring baby boomers will downsize to a high-rise and spend their days lapping lattes and taking the streetcar to the art museum.

A lot of them will. But new data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture says baby boomers will head to the country in big numbers, in the Northwest changing the face of rural Oregon, Washington and Idaho.

And it's not just because the 83 million boomer generation is the largest in U.S. history and all of their movements are out-sized. Demographers are talking about a genuine "deconcentration" of population near metro centers. Urban areas will see a net loss of people age 55 to 75, while in non-metro areas that age group will increase by 1.6 million nationally during the next 10 years.

Migrating boomers will have an especially deep impact on small towns and rural counties on the outer ring of Oregon's metro areas. If you're the economic development director of a small town in a scenic setting, researchers say, you'd be better off developing golf courses and bike trails than competing with every other city to lure the next big manufacturing plant. While you're at it, make sure your medical facilities are up to date.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; retirement; rural
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1 posted on 10/05/2009 5:57:57 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
While you're at it, make sure your medical facilities are up to date.

Easier said than done.

2 posted on 10/05/2009 6:00:30 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Lorianne

The “Vermoting” of the rural Pacific Northwest?


3 posted on 10/05/2009 6:00:51 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Lorianne

I’d rather they stayed in the city. They move to my tiny town and aren’t happy so they try to bring the city with them.


4 posted on 10/05/2009 6:01:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Lorianne
But new data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture says baby boomers will head to the country in big numbers,

There goes the neighborhood....

5 posted on 10/05/2009 6:02:47 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Lorianne

Not ready to accept this with the suspicion that the powers that be today really want gas prices to jump to $10/gallon or more, thus a boon to cities and a bust to rural towns. Their agenda is crap-n-trade, no drilling onshore or offshore, no more nuke plants, decimate coal... we’ll all be living in those city high rises in short order.


6 posted on 10/05/2009 6:05:09 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Moonman62
When I moved from San Diego, CA to Pocatello, ID in 2000, I left behind a fairly good Kaiser Permanente HMO and started paying over about $100/week for a PPO with Aetna. The range of medical service options are pretty limited. You have to find a doctor that isn't "full". Many won't accept more patients. Just because you have money to spend on services doesn't guarantee you can find a service provider.
7 posted on 10/05/2009 6:06:05 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Lorianne
Moving to rural areas is a practical means of retiring when your savings took a whalloping from the dotcomm bust, real estate bust and recent market bust.

Buy 2 acres for $10K, put a Katrina Cottage on it and get by on Social Security.

8 posted on 10/05/2009 6:06:17 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Noumenon

You’re screwed.


9 posted on 10/05/2009 6:08:09 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Lorianne
Ugh. The same generation that surrendered in Vietnam and helped, with its parents, to saddle future generations of Americans with hopelessly impossible entitlement obligations that will suck so much money out of us that we won't be able to give OUR kids a better life.

Selfish pricks.

10 posted on 10/05/2009 6:09:05 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: A.Hun

They’re sure to bring their failed liberal thinking to the farmlands and screw up the red rural areas. Liberals destroy everything they touch.


11 posted on 10/05/2009 6:09:23 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: Lorianne

*insert your string of cuss words here*

Nooooo. I don’t want them out here. Bunch of whiny babies, complaining that we don’t have this and we don’t have that.

Why the heck did you move here then? Let me guess, so you could cash out the only savings you had, which was your house. Now you can buy cheaper out here, pay off your credit card debt with the difference and try to live more cheaply out here in the boonies.


12 posted on 10/05/2009 6:10:19 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: Lorianne

It’s not just the oldsters clearing out of urban areas.

Democrats and other lefties are turning cities into holding pens for the moocher class with spiraling costs paid with higher and higher taxes for others who are stuck there.


13 posted on 10/05/2009 6:10:39 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to take a beating.)
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To: Lorianne

These rural areas wouldn’t happen to be located in states without income taxes, would they?


14 posted on 10/05/2009 6:11:56 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Lorianne

We’re thinking we need to make a place for the kids and grandkids to go to when TSHTF.


15 posted on 10/05/2009 6:13:34 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: fso301
Buy 2 acres for $10K, put a Katrina Cottage on it and get by on Social Security.

That's a prudent plan but...I'm planning to stay afloat when the Algore melting Arctic snowball Armeggadon comes.

16 posted on 10/05/2009 6:15:53 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: Lorianne

Oh, please...stay away from Southern Oregon!!!

Ed


17 posted on 10/05/2009 6:17:41 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Lorianne

Just what we need out west, more damn hippies.


18 posted on 10/05/2009 6:17:50 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: Lorianne

Darn right we’re getting out of the cities.

We’re sick of the grafitti, the filth, the noise and the rapid deterioration of society. The cities are being overrun with barbarians as each successive generation on handouts does a poorer job of socializing their fatherless children.

We don’t want to be here for the coming pandemics, or water shortages or pogroms against the remaining civilized residents


19 posted on 10/05/2009 6:17:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Lorianne

If they move to my local, they’ll get tired of having to travel 70 miles to the nearest Starbucks and after being subjected to the reality that global warming is myth, they’ll head straight home, or like many...to Portland or Eugene to hang out with the rest of the libs that preceded them.


20 posted on 10/05/2009 6:19:10 PM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: pnh102

grow up


21 posted on 10/05/2009 6:21:34 PM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming and it will be violent)
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To: max americana

Agreed!


22 posted on 10/05/2009 6:22:30 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: RoadKingSE

A house boat is a good way to go except I think you’ll still need a place to dock it and hook up to utilities. Hooking up long term at a marina can leave you vulnerable to vagaries of the marina owner.


23 posted on 10/05/2009 6:23:01 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Lorianne

Darn right we’re getting out of the cities.

We’re sick of the grafitti, the filth, the noise and the rapid deterioration of society.

The cities are being overrun with barbarians as each successive generation on handouts does a poorer job of socializing their fatherless children.

We don’t want to be here for the coming pandemics, or water shortages or pogroms against the remaining civilized residents.

Public transporation is already dicey for the young and strong. The old will be easy victims to the expanding packs of surly thugs.

Not even the trendiest coffee shops or hippest art galleries are worth living in daily dread.


24 posted on 10/05/2009 6:23:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Lorianne

Darn right we’re getting out of the cities.

We’re sick of the grafitti, the filth, the noise and the rapid deterioration of society.

The cities are being overrun with barbarians as each successive generation on handouts does a poorer job of socializing their fatherless children.

We don’t want to be here for the coming pandemics, or water shortages or pogroms against the remaining civilized residents.

Public transporation is already dicey for the young and strong. The old will be easy victims to the expanding packs of surly thugs.

Not even the trendiest coffee shops or hippest art galleries are worth living in daily dread.


25 posted on 10/05/2009 6:23:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: BenLurkin

You’ll be welcomed in my little town as long as you leave the city where it is.

We don’t want water meters or sewers. The dirt road is fine the way it is. We don’t want a public boat launch on the lake and we damned sure don’t need a marina. A jet ski might just entice a local to take a few pot shots. If you want to make friends in the area, we don’t need a “center”. Just go to the post office and hang out like the rest of us civilized old farts.


26 posted on 10/05/2009 6:25:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: pnh102

I was thinking the same thing; The Greatest Generation produced the Sorriest Generation


27 posted on 10/05/2009 6:26:15 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: cripplecreek; All

Sorry about triple post.


28 posted on 10/05/2009 6:28:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Lorianne

All my life I have moved to where the job is, not where I would like to live. When I finally retire (still some years from now) I, and many like me, hope to move to where we have always wanted to live, if we can at all afford to do so. Suggesting that people moving into a rural area are selfish for doing so, actually tells me that there are a lot of selfish people already living in rural areas. They’ve got theirs, and they will be nasty to anyone else who would dare to move there. I actually now live in a very rural area in Idaho - fortunately, I haven’t seen the kind of nasty attitude implied by a lot of the replies I’ve seen above.


29 posted on 10/05/2009 6:29:11 PM PDT by jasmine47 (All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you. (Gandalf))
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To: BenLurkin

LOL leave the triple post crap on the city too.


30 posted on 10/05/2009 6:29:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Lorianne

Retired, left Prov,RI, and moved to rural Illinois. Love the fish fry at the VFW on Fri night. Sure beats the gunfire and police sirens on Fri nights in Providence.


31 posted on 10/05/2009 6:29:48 PM PDT by heylady
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To: jasmine47

Its not urban people moving to the country that’s the problem.

Its urban people moving to the country and deciding that its not urban enough.


32 posted on 10/05/2009 6:31:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Lorianne
Well...we've been telling folks this for a long time...I'm gonna move out to the country and paint my mail box blue
33 posted on 10/05/2009 6:32:00 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m gonna guess the bulk of the boomers leaving the big cities are probably productive citizens who were trapped there for jobs. Now that the jobs don’t hold them there, they’re anxious to get out. The unproductive will stay on for their coninued share of public largesse.

As these boomers flee, these blue hellholes will lose the tax base once paid by these departing boomers. Over the next 10 years, the big cities will be hard pressed to fight off bankruptcy.


34 posted on 10/05/2009 6:33:54 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: umgud
As these boomers flee, these blue hellholes will lose the tax base once paid by these departing boomers. Over the next 10 years, the big cities will be hard pressed to fight off bankruptcy.

Detroit.
35 posted on 10/05/2009 6:35:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: jasmine47
fortunately, I haven’t seen the kind of nasty attitude implied by a lot of the replies I’ve seen above.

Here's what I think about that. Sometimes people move here from the city and expect the same services provided by high taxes and government control. Here, if you want fire protection, there is no tax for that. If you want protection you absolutely must pay the $20 to the rural fire department or they will let your house burn down (saving people or animals of course).

I think rural folks are resentful because they don't think "city folks" understand - you will NOT get the same services here and that's why you don't pay so many taxes.

And you can't move in and expect the welcome wagon to come calling - you have to prove you're decent folks. Nothing wrong with that.

36 posted on 10/05/2009 6:35:46 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: BenLurkin

I couldn’t agree more.

I’m at the tail end of the baby boomers (age 50) and my soul aches for 30+ acres with a pasture,view of the mountains and a small creek. I’ve been a city girl my whole life, but I’d love to have a place that brings me peace. A place to exhale.

Also, in case all hell breaks loose in the US, I’d like to be able to have my family somewhat off the grid. That’s the practical side of me!

East Tennessee perhaps?


37 posted on 10/05/2009 6:37:39 PM PDT by BelleAl
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To: pnh102

Go back to playing with the KOSKidz...this place is for adults.


38 posted on 10/05/2009 6:37:58 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: pnh102
saddle future generations of Americans with hopelessly impossible entitlement obligations that will suck so much money out of us that we won't be able to give OUR kids a better life.

You're correct.

That's a huge problem.

My generation (boomers) will have to take a big haircut on Social Security and health care, or burden our kids and grandkids with overwhelming debt.

My hope is that Democrats are correctly tagged with the responsibility for most of this, so they get voted out and we begin to address the real problems.

39 posted on 10/05/2009 6:38:57 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: umgud

You hit the nail on the head.


40 posted on 10/05/2009 6:39:47 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: pnh102

I pray that God gives you wisdom, quickly before its too late.


41 posted on 10/05/2009 6:40:19 PM PDT by winodog (Dont be mad at boomers for inventing the WWW and stealing your real life from you.)
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To: ozarkgirl
If you want protection you absolutely must pay the $20 to the rural fire department or they will let your house burn down (saving people or animals of course).

The Ann Arbor crowd moving in is why we lost our local police department. They complained that there was nothing for our local cops to do but write speeding tickets and it would be cheaper to pay the county.

Well inside of a month we had our first shooting in almost 30 years and the county has upped the price.
42 posted on 10/05/2009 6:40:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: BelleAl

East Tennessee exactly. Hubby and I have worked in South Florida all our lives. Retiring in the next two years and moving to East Tennessee. We are hard core conservatives and love this country very much. We have our retirement home ready and can’t wait to get there.

Mountains, fresh air, season changes and cool weather. As well as like-minded folks. Can’t wait.


43 posted on 10/05/2009 6:42:28 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: cripplecreek
Its not urban people moving to the country that’s the problem.

Its urban people moving to the country and deciding that its not urban enough.

Precisely!! You don't get no services here. It's all about individual accountability. Nobody's coming to rescue you, you can meet the lifeflight helicopter at the football field in town (if you can make it...that is)

44 posted on 10/05/2009 6:42:29 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Tainan

No, he’s right. This is a huge problem. Created largely by Democrats, but a problem nonetheless.


45 posted on 10/05/2009 6:42:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Lorianne

Where old hippies go to die!

(Vermont too)


46 posted on 10/05/2009 6:43:29 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: cripplecreek
Detroit.

for sure, and I'd bet my old hometown of Cleveland is close behind.

47 posted on 10/05/2009 6:44:52 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Tainan
Go back to playing with the KOSKidz...this place is for adults.

I see, so welfare is OK when it benefits the group to which you belong. Got it.

48 posted on 10/05/2009 6:46:25 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102; twistedwrench

>>”Selfish pricks.”<<

Tell that to the Vets who left their legs in a rice paddy, you little turds.


49 posted on 10/05/2009 6:47:01 PM PDT by panaxanax (Barack Hussein Obama is a COMMUNIST.....mmm....mmm...mm)
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To: pnh102

You need to read your history. As a boomer I have paid into social security for the previous generation since 1962 in spite of the fact that I never agreed with the government being in charge of an important part of peoples retirement. I don’t see what was so selfish about that. The WWII generation lived very comfortably on our dime. The social security system was created by the WWI generation. So there is plenty to analyze when it comes to placing blame for the current problems.


50 posted on 10/05/2009 6:47:17 PM PDT by orinoco
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