Posted on 10/04/2009 6:51:29 AM PDT by Libloather
Study: Earth is outside of ‘safe operating space’
Planet taking environmental hits all at once; ‘it’s truly scary in a lot of ways’
By Emily Sohn
updated 6:09 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept . 24, 2009
We are on the verge of pushing nature into a state of instability like nothing humanity has seen before, according to a study published in the journal Nature.
The study, which attempted for the first time to come up with real numbers for a set of conditions beyond which Earth may not be able to recover, found that we may have already crossed several tipping points.
"This is all about our health and security," said Jonathon Foley, a climatologist and ecologist at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities.
"Massive disruptions in climate, ecosystems and so on can have severely negative impacts on things like air quality, pollution levels, pests, emerging diseases and so on."
Excessive global warming, for example, might lead to a rapid rise in sea levels, the collapse of major circulation patterns and drastic changes to regional climates, including more floods and retreating glaciers.
Too much acidification in the oceans, which happens when the seawater absorbs atmospheric carbon dioxide, makes it difficult for creatures to survive, grow and build shells.
Changes in the way we use land and water resources can turn clear blue lakes into murky green ones, harming wildlife, including the fish we eat.
It's as if humanity is driving a car on top of a mesa with the lights off, said Foley. Stepping on the gas in any direction will send us off a cliff.
"Major disruptions in the environment — such as a hurricane or major drought — can be hugely disruptive to people," added Foley, "and lead to mass migrations, refugee issues, increased disease, etc."
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
Boy are these people full of themselves!
The horror; the horror.
Shall we start with that culled climate data that started the whole thing?
You know, that data from hundreds of trees in Siberia, from which 12 trees showing warming were selected?
The data that was withheld when others tried to examine it?
The data that was claimed to have been “lost” after the requests by real scientists became too numerous?
The UN is for “scientists” who were at the bottom of their class (and probably bought their degrees as did our loon president).
Honest question; if the seas are warming , how do they absorb more carbon dioxide? A kid with a bottle of soda pop sees the fallacy there.
I have an idea...all liberals should immediately retreat into caves and bunkers to wait out the coming apocalypse. Once it’s over, they’ll have the planet to themselves. Of course, they may need to stay out of sight for a century or more ;-)
How long are these so called scientists going to get away with this scam. They must be aware that their computer models are thoroughly compromised, and almost always rendered useless, by the concerns of chaos theory. They must know this when their programmers employ something as random and arbitrary as ‘monte carlo’ to account for the uncountable the result is most often going to be incorrect. They must know that any error in their data will return the same amount of error in their result and every time this result is used as a basis for future projections that error is multiplied by however many times it has been used. And how long are we lowly Joe Average’s going to keep listening to them? How long before people wake up and realize that these guys can’t predict what is going to be happening in to the climate next week . . . so how can they predict what will be happening next decade?
This nonsense is all funded by a power structure perceiving its loss of control...and projecting that as the fault of humanity for denying them their rightful prerogative. Hope it does’nt get too ugly.
The sky is falling.
Quick, everyone, grab a pair of scissors and RUN!!!
OH GOD HOW MUCH I HATE THESE LYING IDIOTS!
Add to it the NOAA global temperature stations that were turned off after the fall of the soviet empire and the data sets were not updated to account for the missing information from Siberia? Sounds like a warming trend to me as well./sarc
Anyone who believes this should make an appointment with Dr. Kevorkian post haste! Spare yourself having to witness the cataclysmic ends of these Republican policies! Do it now!
...and was thoroughly debunked afterwards.
These people are full of it PERIOD! The Earth is quite secure, and has been for bazillions of years. While things change environmentally on a continual basis, this was so before man was around and life continued to evolve around any changes. That's what life does. It is not static, and unadaptable. Though species disappear, others come along and fill the nitch.
The Earth does not have an HVAC thermostat sitting over on the wall that keeps the temp within a degree or two throughout the year (or eons in this case). This is a case of unscrupulous scientists that are “trolling” for government grants, assisted by journalists who never took a course in science outside of high school.
One would be foolish to follow their lead, yet millions seem to.
Someone needs to sacrifice her to a volcano. Just kidding of course. She does need to be put in close proximity to one for an educational experience.
Think of the children -and the politicians that want to get rich off of this racket!
Walk the talk, man, and report back to us when we see YOU in a picture like this...
Until then, stop bloviating.
Branch Carbonians, your pants are on fire.
[for legal reasons, I must preface my remarks that they are said in the context of "I believe that"]
This guy is a former U of Wisconsin ecolibtard who's a specialist in NSF grants, government grants, libtard foundation grants and general "I will lie for grant money" grants.
I like that name.....you suppose that they’ll ever get surrounded by the BATF, FBI, Justice Department, US Military ‘advisors’ and ‘advisor’ black helicopters, bull dozers and ‘assault tanks’ and burned out in one fell swoop?
Ah, the Thelma and Louise data model.
Lies and more lies.
Which by the way, is far more likely than any of these predictions.
More like unfounded speculation to try to scare the ignorant masses into keeping their research funding flowing. You can say anything might happen, it is not really a lie technically.
Great, they understand the interactions of multiple interleaved and inter-related complex systems so well they can model them and predict their reactions? Fantastic! Next year's Pikes Peak International Hill Climb is scheduled for Sunday June 27th 2010. What will the weather be like down at the starting line as well as at the finish up on the top of the peak? Surely, surely anyone who would presume to predict global conditions years out can easily call up accurate forecasts for one place less than a year away, right? No? Then these so-called "experts" need to STFU and stop pushing their agenda/scam on us!
No they are using lies to gain power. It is twisting data and that is a lie.
Sounds like they have been playing too much SimEarth...
Environutjobs have been crying wolf for 40+ years.
Look at crop production - if the Earth is so bad how come millions are not dying in the fields? All exaggeration to attain political power.
Scary. At this point there’s only one thing mankind can do. Redistribute wealth.
Environmentalists lie with impunity.
Lies from the first Earth Day 1970
April 30, 2009
For the next 24 hours, the media will assault us with tales of imminent disaster that always accompany the annual Earth Day Doom & Gloom Extravaganza.
Ignore them. They’ll be wrong. We’re confident in saying that because they’ve always been wrong. And always will be.
Need proof? Here are some of the hilarious, spectacularly wrong predictions made on the occasion of Earth Day 1970.
“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist
“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist
“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist
“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day
“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University
“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970
“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director
“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson
“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
Keep these predictions in mind when you hear the same predictions made today. They’ve been making the same predictions for 39 years. And they’re going to continue making them until…well…forever.
Here we are, 39 years later and the economy sucks, but the ecology’s fine. In fact this planet is doing a lot better than the planet on which those green lunatics live.
You’ll also enjoy (or hate) our article, 25 Global Warming Debunking Videos Al Gore Doesn’t Want You To See.
Further Reading: Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud, and Deception to Keep You Misinformed
Source: Reason.com
“we may have already crossed several tipping points. “
The only tipping points I have seen in the Domain of the Academented are the many pointy little heads.
Don’t ask over what those heads are tipped.
Future generations are going to look back and see things like this and say people sure were crazy at the start of the 21st century.
One is the fact that as the human population on the planet increases exponentially, climatic trauma, immutably consistent cyclical geophysical phenomena across the ages, will correspondingly affect more human beings. Is that not so?
Furthermore increased and instantaneous communication within that human society means that this earth-trauma will increasingly appear in the fears and consciousness of that group. That is to say the Earth's natural presence, the geo-catastrophe's for which you prognosticate, has been consistent through the epochs, but is increasingly identified, acknowledged, and encountered by the communicating group. Is that not so?
If you cannot grasp this concept, let's put it in terms of your state lottery. You have virtually no chance of winning it - that is coming out ahead. However the repeated portrayal of rare winners in the Media, that is the instantaneous communication venue of which we speak, makes it appear to YOU that you are an engaged participant and probable winner. You have been hornswoggled by propaganda relayed by the Media - the message has no connection with reality.
Now do you see it? You may be citing the wrong phenomena. There is the distinct possibility that you are a sociological idiot, or pawn - just like the lottery; given of course that you are far from alone, but apparently these days part of the scientifically ignorant majority.
Then again you may be correct, but from our more objective, less emotionally influenced analysis at the Suntrade Institute, along with a host of more trustworthy rigorous scientists, we think you exaggerate.
Johnny Suntrade
I didn’t think I had any tipping points (other than 15%) but now i’m convinced I do.
It’s kinda like we are poised at the brink of a new Dark Age, with superstition again about to trump rationality.
It has been a miracle (who made this miracle?) that we have lived in a climate for the last 10,000 years that has not been found in historical digs. A climate that is for HUMANS and their basic wild life and retained animals. A climate that is for US HUMANS and if we are not here who the hell cares about the earth????
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