Posted on 10/04/2009 6:21:39 AM PDT by joeclarke
Many of my Ron Paul "Paul Bearer" friends have a right to be disgusted with the Republican Party, ie. especially the Lindsay Graham and John McCain left wing of the party, and they, of course, want to not only End The Fed, according to Paul's book, but would also like to see the U.S. end its "unconstitutional" nose-poking into other country's affairs. Get out of Afghanistan and Iraq before they are secure, stop funding Afghanistan, cut off Israel and some Arab states from foreign aid, then all will be well under God's heaven, and we would only take care of ourselves.
This would more quickly end our lone superpower status which accelerated after winning WW II and even more after so beating the Soviet Union (thanks to God, and Magnus Reagan with a little help from his friends, including the Pope). Because we have been victorious militarily (and CIA covert actions) around the world our hegemony has been unrivaled, despite the liberal Democrats' hard charging to lose wars from Korea, through Vietnam and Latin America, to the Iraq/Afghanistan wars.
The American dollar has only been the dominating denomination of currency in the world for the past 100 years because of the U.S.'s military might and because of the United States resolve to maintain some semblance of world order - when no one else would dare. We have not been the "world's policeman" because we have not been involved in even 5% of the world's conflicts, uprisings, and turmoil (the vast majority, lately, perpetrated by the Islamic world, and not because we have been so cruel to them at Gitmo). They just want to cause trouble, and unfortunately, it has only been the United States which has had enough integrity to slap them down.
President Obama should not be described as "Walking Softly, Carrying A Big Stick," since it would illegitimately liken him to Teddy Roosevelt who was an experienced trooper, and who actually carried big sticks (and rifles), therefore, giving him the military experience and gravitas to effect a little godly fear in the hearts of America haters, at home and abroad. Obama's rough riding was mainly riling up Acorn types in Chicago so as to shake down the government for mo' money and free houses.
Isolationism is not Constitutional as the Constitution allows for the "common defense" of the United States and its possessions. Why should we not care if American people or companies are harassed or hampered by foreign powers when they have legitimate business overseas? The same if they are only a potential nuclear threat, or murdering en masse their own countrymen. The Monroe Doctrine was not merely some esoteric, philosophical dream concocted so than the U.S. could become that "dreaded imperialist empire" as Pat Buchannan and Ron Paul have eluded to. I do admit that wrong-headed governors, such as those in the Obama administration, could misuse America's interventionist policies, and try to take over the world after attempting to take over the citizens of the United States, but for the most part, American Presidents have been very judicious (if not always perfect) in their "correcting/intervening " in other nations political matters.
You don't hear any complaints about the CIA aiding Greece immediately after WW II which could easily have become another Soviet Satellite, do you?
There are many examples, but the point I am attempting to drive home is that the American Dollar is now the world's fiat currency, because of our strategic and economic strength. If we throw our foreign involvements,investments, and military aid to the wind, we lose the Superpower status, only to be replaced by European/Chinese/Russian contenders.
The Democrats have so hurt our economy, energy sources, and social establishment that we are going down fast. Europe's Gross National Product has surpassed us for the first time in recent history, and that is astounding, considering that they have all those multi-cultured, multi-tongued people forming more of a "perfect union" than the "United" States.
George Washington warned against "foreign entanglements," but even he recognized that there must be some foreign entangling in order to put down the Islamic terrorists of his day - the Barbary Pirates (It was actually Jefferson who drew the sword on them).
We are a superpower militarily because we are a superpower economically.
It also helps that we are protected by oceans on both sides and a friendly neighbor to the north.
US is broke. The only way US could fun the military spending now is by printing money e.g stealing everyone’s purchasing power who’s holding usd. Ppl on fixed income and the poor is hurt by this the most. Stealing from the poor to reward the big military corporations who don’t know a thing about cut cutting, competition and waste
Yes, well, the military is one of the legitimate Government expenses that is getting crowded out by the illegitimate ones. Somewhere along the line we got confused about the real role of Government. I would be more than happy with a Government that protected us from foreign threats, safeguarded our borders, enforced our laws, and built our roads, but little else. The US would have plenty of $$ to spend on the military if it eliminated entitlement spending. Unfortunately, that will only happen when the entire System collapses of its own weight (and that day is fast approaching).
The ONE THING that disqualified Ron Paul from my vote in 2008 is his platform of military abandonment, withdrawal and isolationism. Although Obama seems to be having a problem with his campaign promises to end the wars completely by 2010. Ron Paul would have encountered the same difficulty for many of the same reasons.
Fiscally and Constitutionally speaking, Ron Paul NAILED the economic crisis and the culprits. But the RINO wing of the Republicans let it be known they were still in charge and McCain or Romney would be what is best for America.
Of course the RINO’s were rejected.
But if America is going to get back on Constitutional grounding, there are going to have to be some very hard choices. Ron Paul is willing to take on that challenge.
No other potential candidate in 2008 or now, with one exception, has the US Constitution within their sight. Ignoring the Constitutional principles is that very destructive end for the American Way.
I think a Palin /Paul Ticket in 2012 might just give us the balance America needs.
American is not going to get back on Consitituional grounding. Republicans and Democrats, Conservatives and Liberals, the Left and the Right, would all squeal like pigs if it was ever attempted.
We are a super power economically because we have been the freest peoples, up until lately.
“American is not going to get back on Consitituional grounding. Republicans and Democrats, Conservatives and Liberals, the Left and the Right, would all squeal like pigs if it was ever attempted.” you said.
So I guess the only solution left is to dissolve the USA and blend in with the 3rd World?
I believe you are wrong. The left wing liberals would do most of the squealing because they are the free spenders of the peoples benevolence and unrestrained charitable vote buying. The only reason Republicans engage in the excess of charity is that they have to compete in the vote buying scams or they would never get elected.
There is NO charitable clause in the Constitution. But there is a clause to collect money for national defense.
Unfortunately charity with taxpayers money spends more than national defense. Not only is charity using tax proceeds unconstitutional, it is unethical. Charity is meant to be administered on a local basis, by our peers, as determined by local need.
Washington DC cannot fairly or ethically administer charity on a local, per case basis. Unfortunately the rule of law has been selectively ignored by congress. Not only in this case, but many.
So I ask you what is wrong with pursuing a course that will lead America back to pure Constitutional law? Just because many people have been conditioned to believe the Constitution is not relevant in today’s society is not reason to abandon the pursuit of civil law just because some people will squeal like pigs.
IMHO - Palin/Bolton or Bolton/Palin would be much better.
Cheney/Palin 2012!!!
Just to see Jon Stewart’s head explode would be worth it.
>>>I think a Palin /Paul Ticket in 2012 might just give us the balance America needs.
If by balance you mean a sane woman on our side and a weirdo man of questionable goals, sure. But I think Paul and Cindy Sheehan already have an understanding.
Ron Paul,the only republican Cindy Sheehan can stomach. Proving the adage, birds of a feather.
Saturday, May 10, 2008
Cindy Sheehan endorses Ron Paul over Barack Obama
http://wigdersonlibrarypub.blogspot.com/2008/05/cindy-sheehan-endorses-ron-paul-over.html
and earlier:
Sheehan: “I don’t want to even discuss who is likely to be the Republican nominee, because besides having little foreign policy difference between any of them and Hillary, anyone of them would be a complete disaster on matters of war and peace, with the possible exception of Ron Paul (Tx).”
http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/523/blog/comments.jsp?key=346&blog_entry_KEY=21045&t
“IMHO - Palin/Bolton or Bolton/Palin would be much better.”
I think that is a great combo as well. My whole idea is to get people thinking that we CAN turn things around if we defund the RINO’s and fund the true representatives of the people.
Right now is the time to start looking seriously at the ideology of certain potential candidates, and what they have accomplished in terms of voting records or other public service.
I am not necessarily a Ron Paul Supporter. But I DO like his ideology and feel that is the direction America needs to pursue if we are going to remain a United 50 States.
You truly believe this? The only reason that Republicans spend liberally is they are forced to? The Republicans are the same people as Democrats, they are entrenched DC residents, with Liberal views that they have to hide to get re-elected IMO. The Republican party has as much blame in the problems we have with big govt as the Democrats, and I could argue they have more. You don't blame children for turning your household into chaos, you blame the adults for not controlling the situation in their own home. So it is with the Federal govt.
I see no advantage in throwing brain cells into the wind and going third party without a mass movement in that direction, but we must vote every single incumbent out of office. That is what Republicans/Conservatives must work on, common cause with normally Democrat voters to vote them all out of office, and bring in people that will pledge to both term limit, and drastically cut spending. This American experiment is over unless we cut govt by at least 50%, that includes means testing of SS, Medicaire, Medicaid, Federal retirement and cutting bureaucracy.
Want to see Conservatives abandon a return to the Consitution in two words?
“Drug War”.
The drug war can’t be won when the liberals ignore the rule of law and block drug enforcement with lax border and immigration policy, and allow rogue judges who block law enforcement provisions.
Their hope is that drug laws be repealed so they can tax the enterprise and pass out more taxpayer charity to their sheeple in exchange for votes.
Exquisite!...but John Bolton has to be Sec of State then ;-)
Them’s stroooonnnng arguments to me!
You started off good, then you said other stuff that sort of implied that the drug war could be won...too bad.
“You started off good, then you said other stuff that sort of implied that the drug war could be won...too bad”
It seems the economics of drugs props up both sides of the argument. As long as there is consumption, there will be demand. As long as borders and drug enforcement are soft, there is supply.
Giving money for law enforcement is stupid when other laws are ignored that would make the enforcement a realistic goal. Good money is canceled out by bad money.
Frankly, I don’t care one way or the other about drugs. But if we were a nation of Constitutional law, it makes no sense to spend money for enforcement when selective enforcement cancels the outcome. Nobody wins. And the taxpayers are getting the shaft.
No war can be won when the enemy is supplied equal tools by their adversary.
[The United States Is Only A Superpower Because It Is A Superpower - Militarily]
And we only have a SUPER military because as a free people, we worked, prospered and thus built a great nation and a Military to protect us.
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You don’t bring a HS basketball Varsity bench sitter to a gunfight
Especially if he is high on cocaine and insanity
We don’t know that he still uses cocaine, and I don’t think he’s insane. He has his communist, socialistic agenda and a drive to make it happen.
I quit three times.
I wasn’t lying when I said it.
But I’m smoking again!
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But Obama never quit smoking
Obama was never a moderate
Obama was never a 1st string BB player
Obama never turned the Oval Office thermostat down to 72°F
Obama never ate less than Wagya steak and lobster in the WH
Obama never had a hybrid car - he had a Chrysler 300 Hemi
Obama never.....
He tried but wasn't successful. He has joked about it, and he knows how people ridicule you when you fail.
Do you think he eats steak and lobster EVERY day?
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