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U.S. September auto sales plunge; GM, Chrysler hit hard
Reuters ^ | Oct. 1, 2009 | By Kevin Krolicki and David Bailey

Posted on 10/01/2009 5:49:12 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

U.S. auto sales tumbled by 23 percent in September as showrooms emptied after the government-funded boom from the "cash for clunkers" program, with General Motors Co and Chrysler hardest-hit.

Sales for General Motors Co and Chrysler -- the two U.S. automakers struggling to regain momentum after emerging from bankruptcy -- dropped by 45 percent and 42 percent, respectively.

Ford -- the only U.S. automaker to have avoided bankruptcy -- managed to hold its sales decline to 5 percent from a year earlier despite low inventories and reduced incentives for car shoppers.

Automakers had braced for a sharp pullback in September after the clunkers program and taxpayer-funded credits of up to $4,500 drove sales sharply higher the month before.

The overall result was in line with those forecasts as industry-wide U.S. auto sales dropped 41 percent from August, according to Autodata Corp.

On the annualized basis tracked by analysts, industry-wide U.S. auto sales dropped to 9.2 million vehicles in September, the weakest sales rate since April.

In a reversal of fortune that underscores how deep the decline in U.S. auto sales has cut over the four-year-long slump, China's overall vehicle sales for September were almost twice as large as the industry-wide U.S. tally, according to an estimate provided by GM.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: chrysler; ford; gm
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1 posted on 10/01/2009 5:49:13 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Unintended consequences! Idiots, what did they expect.


2 posted on 10/01/2009 5:51:18 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: All

Good..


3 posted on 10/01/2009 5:52:09 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Good. I am boycotting all companies that took TARP/Bailout money - forever. I hope those corrupt companies all die, although I hope the employees find decent jobs with companies that have not stolen from the taxpayers. Government Motors must die, and I will cheer every time I hear good news that they are moving along that path.


4 posted on 10/01/2009 5:52:21 PM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yeah Baybee!

Signed, Austin Powers


5 posted on 10/01/2009 5:52:32 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Jet Jaguar

Cash for clunkers comes complete circle.


6 posted on 10/01/2009 5:52:32 PM PDT by StAntKnee (I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up from this dream theatre of the absurd.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

7 posted on 10/01/2009 5:52:36 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('They're drinking the juice.'~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Go GM

Go Chrysler

Go to hell ...


8 posted on 10/01/2009 5:53:08 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Ford -- the only U.S. automaker to have avoided bankruptcy government takeover -- managed to hold its sales decline to 5 percent from a year earlier despite low inventories and reduced incentives for car shoppers.

Heh heh heh...hope, change.

9 posted on 10/01/2009 5:53:44 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin can see the left's heads explode from her house!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Good for Ford. My next car will be my first Ford ever.


10 posted on 10/01/2009 5:53:47 PM PDT by kempster
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To: Jet Jaguar
Automakers had braced for a sharp pullback in September after the clunkers program and taxpayer-funded credits of up to $4,500 drove sales sharply higher the month before.

Taxpayer-funded? I thought the credits came from the gov't. Hard to believe Rooters would use such honest language.

11 posted on 10/01/2009 5:54:18 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Who among us wants to buy from Govt. Motors? Not I...ever.


12 posted on 10/01/2009 5:54:39 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Wasn’t hard to see this coming.

Housing sales will fall when the gov’t incentives expire.

So much for that economic upturn.


13 posted on 10/01/2009 5:54:56 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: Jet Jaguar

Even a blind man could see this coming after the end of “Cash for Clunkers”.


14 posted on 10/01/2009 5:55:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’m glad to see Ford doing the best. It does not look like Obama motors is doing to well.


15 posted on 10/01/2009 5:55:18 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Jet Jaguar
GM, Chrysler hit hard; taxpayers hit harder..... better put some ice on that.
16 posted on 10/01/2009 5:55:29 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

One thing for sure, Government Motors and FiatUSA will be in business until November 2012.


17 posted on 10/01/2009 5:58:24 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: TurtleUp

Agreed. I hope the UAW whores at GM and Chrysler are unemployed. The Obama DeathCare bill has a huge benefit for healthcare and retirement buried in their for UAW union goons.

UAW - you killed GM and Chrysler. Union scum. Ford should move south to non-union states.


18 posted on 10/01/2009 5:58:38 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Best news I’ve read today . F-em !


19 posted on 10/01/2009 5:58:47 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Frantzie

This is my candidate for the “Well duh” story of the day.

Anybody with any sense knew that all the cash for clunkers fiasco did was move around sales between periods.


20 posted on 10/01/2009 5:59:53 PM PDT by gthog61
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To: gthog61

ford held up. Many people will not buy GM or Chrysler. I feel soory for the non-union workers there. They probably have a job until Nov 2012.


21 posted on 10/01/2009 6:02:15 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Frantzie

GM and Chrysler .. the new commie Yugo car company


22 posted on 10/01/2009 6:08:35 PM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I don't think a government/union run automobile manufacturer was a good idea. Typical dumbass liberals. Those people are clueless.

Whitacre's dumbass "I Wannabe Like Lee (Iococca)" TV ad is hilarious. It worked for Iococca. It's not going to work for Whitacre.

23 posted on 10/01/2009 6:10:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Uh, Ford sales were down only 5%. Not the double digits of the other two automakers.

Go Ford!

Last man standing wins.


24 posted on 10/01/2009 6:10:26 PM PDT by quintr
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To: kempster

Having driven Fords for the last 30 years, we have yet to have a problem.


25 posted on 10/01/2009 6:11:21 PM PDT by quintr
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To: Jet Jaguar

Should have thought twice before seeking those bailouts, huh, GM and Chrysler? Seems many of us have not forgotten. Accordingly, what goes around, comes around.


26 posted on 10/01/2009 6:13:09 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Jet Jaguar

What a surprise!!!!


27 posted on 10/01/2009 6:13:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: CriticalJ

Yep but good for my co-worker, she is planning on becoming a missionary so she’ll try to sell the house before end of december, around the same time the tax incentives are due to expire.


28 posted on 10/01/2009 6:14:04 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jet Jaguar

I`m not crying.


29 posted on 10/01/2009 6:14:33 PM PDT by nomad
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To: quintr

We have one more year on our lease from Government Motors and we will be gone. Unfortunatley, we made the deal long before they went bankrupt.


30 posted on 10/01/2009 6:14:52 PM PDT by kempster
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To: Jet Jaguar

Only 41%!!!
On the bright side, October sales will be only 15 % lower than the dismal Sept number!!!


31 posted on 10/01/2009 6:15:05 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Jet Jaguar
And Government Motors plans to lay off how many workers in the coming months?

5.56mm

32 posted on 10/01/2009 6:15:22 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: quintr

All the bailouts are unfair to Ford. If the government didn’t get involved, Ford would had been able to buy the best assets of GM and Chrysler in a bankrupty auction (providing that there were any assets left salvagable)


33 posted on 10/01/2009 6:16:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: kempster

I like the Ford Flex. The rest of the lineup leaves me pretty flat. That said, three cheers for Ford for not riding the fascist wave.


34 posted on 10/01/2009 6:18:33 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Jet Jaguar
Karl Denninger of the Market Ticker blog predicted this at the onset. All they did was pull demand forward with easy money - money they got by issuing a government IOU that all of us will have to pay back, even if we didn't get a car. The problem is that this is a credit-driven recession.

The consumer is tapped out. As good manufacturing jobs were outsourced overseas and replaced by lower paying service sector jobs, disposable income fell. The collapse of the housing bubble removed the ability of many to remove equity from their home (as foolish as that is...) to make such purchases. It is all just math. Consumer demand will not come back until 1) consumers reduce their existing debt burden and 2) income rises giving more disposable income for such purchases.

35 posted on 10/01/2009 6:19:18 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: Yardstick

Here in Michigan there is a lot of sentiment for Ford but the UAW is really pushing the other two. Penske’s pullout of the Saturn deal is putting another nail in the GM coffin. Eventually, I think the people may start to realize they are at a point of diminishing returns.


36 posted on 10/01/2009 6:21:33 PM PDT by kempster
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To: TurtleUp

Agreed. GM and Chrysler must go if for no other reason to throw a bunch of UAW lunkheads on the street crying, “Dude, where’s my pension?”


37 posted on 10/01/2009 6:23:25 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Go Rogue on 11/17/09)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’ve said it before ... you give cars away, people will buy them, you charge for them, they won’t ... especially when unemployment is at 10% and the economy is in the tank. What kinds of economic geniuses would think otherwise?


38 posted on 10/01/2009 6:23:51 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (The Patriot's Flag at http://www.thepatriotsflag.com/ - Stealth Health Care Bill)
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To: RochesterFan
Ref your post #35.

We are sitting here, knowing what will occur, having our degrees in economics, finance and accounting, but the ones running the country that are the geniuses, can't figure it out?

They (congress, 0bama, Gietner, etc.), are either fools, or they know exactly what they are doing. If it is the latter, soon...all hell is going to break loose.

5.56mm

39 posted on 10/01/2009 6:26:05 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ford is mortgaged to the hilt.
The GM/Chry bk assets would have gone to the Chinese.


40 posted on 10/01/2009 6:28:06 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: RochesterFan

I’m not hurting, but I am keeping my 11 year old truck. Spent 230 dollars and sweat and knuckle blood changing the radiator out today. But, I have had not had to worry about a car payment for, going on, five years.


41 posted on 10/01/2009 6:29:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Our local Chrysler has only received 15 new Cars in 3 months. It seems that the academia decision to shut down for two months to reduce inventory had some unintended consequences.

Like many parts suppliers did not have enough money to shutdown for 2 months and they went bankrupt.

Now Chrysler plants can’t get parts to build cars. Those union guys are probably standing around doing next to nothing since there are no parts.


42 posted on 10/01/2009 6:32:18 PM PDT by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Blow Taps Obama killed them.


43 posted on 10/01/2009 6:35:46 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I wonder if GM is counting the cars people will be returning.


44 posted on 10/01/2009 6:37:25 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: kempster

Do I remember right that Saturn was going to become independent of GM? If so, that’s too bad about the Penske thing. IMO the best thing that could happen to GM and Chrysler at this point would be for them to go under and have their various brands sold off. Then a bunch of hard-core “car guys” need to buy those brands and start making some great cars. All the best eras of US car design happened when car guys were ruling the roost. The bean counters need to disappear (also the unions) so the visionaries and romantics can take over again.


45 posted on 10/01/2009 6:45:52 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nascarnation
The GM/Chry bk assets would have gone to the Chinese.

That's fine with me.

46 posted on 10/01/2009 6:48:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jet Jaguar

Did the lower radiator hose clamp get ya?

I’ve got a 30” long screwdriver I bought just for that connection.


47 posted on 10/01/2009 6:55:13 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

It did, and I broke my channel lock knock off. I replaced the spring clamp with a screw clamp.


48 posted on 10/01/2009 7:08:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
(GM and Chrysler)dropped by 45 percent and 42 percent, respectively...Ford -- the only U.S. automaker to have avoided bankruptcy -- managed to hold its sales decline to 5 percent from a yearlier...Funny - the crawl I saw on the CNN news tonight mentioned only that Ford sales had declined after the Cash for Clunkers program ended - they also lie who only include part of the truth......
49 posted on 10/01/2009 7:09:39 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’m still driving my ‘99 Accord. Paid it off in 3 years and have been w/o a payment since. Very reliable.


50 posted on 10/01/2009 7:20:14 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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