Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 09/30/2009 2:50:59 PM PDT by reaganaut1
The Environmental Protection Agency announced a proposed rule Wednesday to begin regulating greenhouse gas emissions from thousands of power plants and large industrial facilities.
The proposed rule would require polluters to install the best available technology to capture greenhouse gases whenever a new plant is opened or significantly changed. The rule applies to any industrial plant that emits at least 25,000 tons of greenhouse gases a year.
When the rule is final, the EPA said operators of as many 14,000 sources of pollution would have to get additional permits.
The proposal, long anticipated and highly controversial, marks the first government move toward controlling the emissions blamed for the warming of the planet from stationary sources. The E.P.A. has already proposed an ambitious program to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from cars and trucks, expected to take effect early next year.
Lisa P. Jackson, the E.P.A. administrator, announced the proposal on the same day that Senators John F. Kerry and Barbara Boxer introduced sweeping climate change and energy legislation. While that bill faces a highly uncertain fate in the Senate, the Obama administration signaled its intention to move forward on global warming with or without a Congressional mandate.
Ms. Jackson, citing her authority under the Clean Air Act, said the new rule would apply only to facilities emitting 25,000 tons of carbon dioxide a year or more. That would exempt virtually all small businesses and farms and cover only the largest power plants, refineries and large-scale factories.
“By using the power and authority of the Clean Air Act,” Ms. Jackson said in a statement Wednesday afternoon, “we can begin reducing emissions from the nation’s largest greenhouse gas emitting facilities without placing an undue burden on the businesses that make up the vast majority of our economy.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
global warming ping
Brilliant move, E.P.A.
These people won’t be happy until we’re all riding bicycles.
Don’t sweat it. Just vote out the EPA bureaucrats in the next election.
Frankly, we get what we deserve. We put up with anything in this country.
I often see posts saying “Close the EPA.” Well, what exactly does it take to close an agency? A bill? A Presidential order? How hard would it really be?
Agency regulations, unlike laws passed by Congrees, can be challenged on their merits. If it can be proven in court that AGW is not scientifically well-founded, the regulations can be overturned.
Hey, congress, if we’re going to be ruled by czars and bureaucrats what do we need you for?
Maybe we need to do some investigation into MS. Jackson’s backgound?
The list, ping
Yet each year Florida’s big sugar will BURN their entire fields to yield an easier harvest polluting Florida’s air land and sea.
Course big money interests, the Fanjul family who donates to BOTH parties will be ignored by E.P.A.?
HORSE CRA
Cap n' Trade would help offset these regulations which, if law holds up, will be brought down to 250 TONS at each facility. It's called the Prevention of Significant Deterioration(PSD) permits. It's a nasty nasty little piece of regulation.
This is open warfare on the free enterprise system, as far as I am concerned.
The left really needs to get some push-back on green issues.
The EPA is incapable of anything and should have been disbanded before it was even created.
It is one of the most corrupt agencies in the federal government and has been since its inception.
Article 1 Section 1 of our once Constitution granted legislative power to Congress, not to pencil-neck enviro nut jobs. It certainly did not grant them taxing power either.
It is time for pitchforks.
These 14,000 factories will either shut down and move overseas or they will split into smaller factories under the 25,000 ton limit.
We're all polluters now...
Did the Supreme Court make a determination that they “should” treat CO2 as a pollutant or that they “could” treat CO2 as a pollutant. My belief is that the Supreme Court ruled that the determination was left up to the E.P.A. as to the definition of “pollutant”. If this had not been the case, then a court would have had to hold hearings where experts would have testified. I do not believe this happened.
The EPA is old school ACORN.
This will be IN ADDITION TO whatever congress passes.
Who needs legislation when there’s no new plants? I wonder what the effects of this recession have had on greenhouse gas emissions? Probably good news for the EPA. Perhaps economic activity should keep decreasing...
The EPA can put out a rule regulating ultraviolet light emissions!
Bicycles require steel and rubber. Manufacturing steel and rubber emits greenhouse gases.
Walking emits greenhouse gases.
Breathing emits greenhouse gas.
The amendment would stop the EPA from issuing new regulations capping greenhouse gases emissions from utilities and factories for one year. Murkowski plans to ask for her amendment to be brought up before the cloture vote on the Interior and Environmental Appropriations bill, according to aides.
“We don't think the amendment is a good idea,” White House climate advisor Carol Browner said on Tuesday. “It could get you a situation where activities that should go forward — like investments in carbon capture and storage — wouldn't be able to go forward.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27509.html#ixzz0SdKY3pgs Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27509.html#ixzz0SdKPRBXG
There will be no bicycle manufacturers left after these rules go into effect.
"EEEEPA!!!! EEEEEEPA!!!!"
Hard to decide who is dumber, EPA people or politicians. Toss-up maybe.
Adding costs to the biggest companies won’t affect me at all? The extra costs will simply be paid with golden pixie dust supplied by little fairies?
Oh goody!
I want to be the one picked to install the valve on the sun.
Anyone can handle taking care of the rest of the power plants.
Not yet. First I want to see an analysis of what this cost and ram it down this administration's throats. I want the full information made available for all to see what this will cost each citizen. Then ... armed with sufficient information .. many American people will demand an end to this one way or the other ... then the pitchforks.
You must have taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque and wound up in Utopia. ; )
I’m cold. I want global warming.
MORE GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS! KEEP THE PLANET WARM!
Regulations are the secret to everything. That’s how Bambi and his minions will achieve most of their goals.
With all the curtailing that has been done over the years, shouldn’t be any left........oh wait, they want more tax dollars, could that be it?
Unless we overthrow the regulators and end the bureaucracies, we will lose.
“Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled last year in a 5-4 decision(Mass v. EPA) that EPA should treat CO2 as a pollutant.”
Wait’ll the libs realize that this will include diet coke.
That pfffft you hear upon opening, yep, CO2. Fountain drinks? Yep, CO2.
And how much does Al Gore make on this decision?
Definition of a ‘Green Job’: Any taxpayer funded government job that reduces/restricts the productivity/profitability of any capitalist private energy producing job.
We can't plate or paint anything because of EPA regs, talk to an auto engineer familiar with it, it will make your head spin like you are in the movie the Exorcist....
fixed: "the first government move toward controlling the emissions blamed for the warming of the planet from illusory sources."
The proposed rule would require polluters to install the best available technology to capture greenhouse gases whenever a new plant is opened or significantly changed.IOW, no more new plants in the United States, and no improvements or upgrades to plants in the United States. And neither Obama nor Congress will close the border, either.
The proposal, long anticipated and highly controversial, marks the first government move toward controlling the emissions blamed for the warming of the planet from stationary sources.
It's highly ironic that this bureaucratic nightmare was released just as this report of high fraud among the warmers came out: Treemometers: A new scientific scandal.
And how will this effect the boy child and his wife as they fly all over the World at our exspense?
But, that's what they want.
I mean listening to them yelling, " I smell one over here!" ,and running in a stange way that made me think they had corks up their a$$es in order to avoid contaminating their "samples."
They are crazy. I told them they should tie deer antlers onto their heads, it would make it easier to sneak up on the cows and get closer ( its hiunting season up here.)
( sarc.off )
They have gione absolutely bonkers, chicken little syndromoe now wastes billions of dollars and here we are , in for our coldest winter in a generation, this year.
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