Plane stolen from Boundary County Airport [IDAHO]

KXLY.com ^ | Posted: Sep 29, 2009 12:08 PM;Updated: Sep 29, 2009 6:45 PM | n/a

[Cindy]

SNIPPET: "SPOKANE -- Authorities in North Idaho are reporting that sometime early Tuesday morning a small airplane was stolen from the Boundary County Airport.

The Boundary County Sheriff confirms they received a report regarding the theft of a 2005 Cessna T182T aircraft around 7 AM Tuesday morning. The aircraft, with tail number N2183P, is a white and blue fixed wing single engine aircraft. It is believed the aircraft was taken from the airport around 5:45 Tuesday. They're not sure in what direction the plane was flown from the airport."

SNIPPET: "Authorities are working to confirm if the theft is related to several similar break-ins at the airport across the Canadian border in Creston, British Columbia. In those cases someone stole firearms, attempted to steal a plane only to find the battery was dead and stole a car and rammed it through a gate."

[Cindy]

ping

[Glenn]

Repo?

[eyedigress]

You have AF facilities nearby that have that information. If it was in flight.

[Cindy]

No.

[Cindy]

Thank you eyedigress.

[Ronin]

I hope this is not what we are all afraid it is.

Any pilots on this thread? What’s the range of that aircraft and what is in range of that aircraft.

I hope the Air National guard is up and looking.

[eyedigress]

The A-10 flight from Tuscon to Denver was quite a challenge, I went out and looked as best I could. He left airspace radar going into the white mountains and was the plane found the next spring into the side of a Colorado Mtn. It was his first flight with HE. (High Explosives)
Scary stuff.

[Cindy]

I’m sure all the agencies have the info Ronin.

As an aside, did you get a chance to see this thread I posted, too?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2351396/posts

It may or may not be related.
I don’t have enough details to know at this time.

[meadsjn]

The A-10 flight from Tuscon to Denver was quite a challenge, I went out and looked as best I could. He left airspace radar going into the white mountains and was the plane found the next spring into the side of a Colorado Mtn. It was his first flight with HE. (High Explosives) Scary stuff.

Was that the one during the McVeigh trial at the Denver Fed courthouse?

[happinesswithoutpeace]

/mark . Thanks for all your frinternets work mam

[eyedigress]

I don't think it was related to OKC. He was scheduled to be at Range 1 at the Goldwater Range in 1997 I believe. He took a turn north east of Phoenix and the AF didn't act to much. When he never showed it was to late. The plane was gone and he would have crashed soon. The problem was the weapons on board. It created quite a stir.

Now that I think about it OKC was trying to be tied into this. The connection was never made.

[Cindy]

You’re very welcome happinesswithoutpeace.

[Covenantor]

Here;s a photo of the plane type.

Not sure what you might fear but this is a small plane.

[Cindy]

“Not sure what you fear...”

I have no preconceived ideas on this incident Covenantor.
It’s posted here as a story of interest. I will update it as
updates become available.

Thank you for posting this photo.

[Cvengr]

There had been CT rumors that another coordinated Al Quada 9/11 type attack would take place in Oct this year using small aircraft such as this to transport suitcase devices over 8 American cities. 25Oct seemed to be the target date.

[Covenantor]

Thanks for the info.

[MissDairyGoodnessVT]

don’t be droppin’ no suitcase bombs on me now

[rdl6989]

bttt

[Cindy]

Thank you for the bump rdl6989

[chuck_the_tv_out]

“to steal a plane only to find the battery was dead and stole a car and rammed it through a gate”

Sounds like a movie. A plane doesn’t have keys right? But then this person is able to (hotwire?) a car

[Joe Boucher]

MOst small planes DO have keys and ignition switches.

[AvOrdVet]

don’t be droppin’ no suitcase bombs on me now

"Don't Nuke Me, Bro!"

[Concho]

A 182 has about a 4 hour flight duration, and 500 mile range, depending on the winds, so that airplane was back on the ground before noon. Somewhere. If the gas tanks were not full when he took it, then the above figures would be less.

If the plane was not crashed in the wilderness somewhere, then it was landed at an airport for refueling. Someone has seen that airplane, most likely.

[Neidermeyer]

MOst small planes DO have keys and ignition switches.
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The ignition switches used in most planes (the majority are OLD OLD OLD and loose loose loose) are very similar to what you would find in a 1960’s car or a garden tractor with the exception of having 3 run positions (left mag , right mag , both mags) ... you can start most airplanes with a screwdriver... This however was a really sweet new Cessna ,,, he would have needed to use a great deal of force on the lock or wired around.

[Rappini]

If I’m not mistaken after 911 alerts to GA were that Planes were to have empty gas tanks or near empty when not in use. Not sure if that still applies.

[Joe Boucher]

I’m in the process of giving my RV6A an annual right now.

[FreeStateYank]

When the find the guy, will he have a rectal impaction due to a large wad of C4?

[MrPiper]

The 182 has a Useful load of around 1000 lbs, depending on what year, landing gear, etc.

It has much better performance at high altitude than a 152 or 172. I would look for it heading to Alaska and on to Russia. Going south would be hard to hide. Flying in mountains, if you don't kill yourself, could hide it from radar.

If all I wanted to do was carry a suit case, I would buy a flyable 152 for $10-15K. It would not be missed and you could keep it at any airport in the country. This plane has much better value as a drug hauler or resale after parting out. Not to mention stolen/destroyed for insurance. Lots of options besides terrorism.

One more thought, these aircraft are VERY easy to take off, but it takes a pilot to land it in one piece. (nutcase pilot wannabe?)

[LibLieSlayer]

I have a bad feeling.

LLS

[Concho]

We bring them in and hanger them. They set there low fuel until we are ready to go out again, and we call the FBO and have them pull the plane out and top it off, so it is ready to go when we get there.

[seemoAR]

You don’t need a key or a battery to start some engines, they can be started by turning the magnetos on and spinning the prop by hand. The mag switch is used to short out the ignition.

There would be no electrical system however.

[Concho]

It would be suicide to attempt to fly the coast or coastal range this time of year. The only way to get to Alaska would be to fly the AlCan Highway, and you can bet that everyone and their dog is going to be watching that route. Heading south and staying out in the very rural areas would make for a fast trip to Mexico. Lots of the rural airports are not manned, just having card pumps, you drop in, use the card and fill your own tank and go. No one would even see you if you avoid busy airports. Considering that it would take about $250 to fill the tanks, the thief would need good cards or plenty of cash to make a trip of any distance.

[Doc Savage]

Amish again!

[fanfan]

Thanks for the ping, Cindy.

[A.A. Cunningham]

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FAA REGISTRY

N-Number Inquiry Results

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N2183P has Assigned/Multiple Records

Data Updated each Federal Working Day at Midnight

	Aircraft Description
	Serial Number	T18208470	Type Registration	Co-Owned
	Manufacturer Name	CESSNA	Certificate Issue Date	01/09/2006
	Model	T182T	Status	Valid
	Type Aircraft	Fixed Wing Single-Engine	Type Engine	Reciprocating
	Pending Number Change	None	Dealer	No
	Date Change Authorized	None	Mode S Code	50355011
	MFR Year	2005	Fractional Owner	NO
	Registered Owner
	Name	GARDINER PATRICK J
	Street	6503 FARM TO MARKET RD
	City	BONNERS FERRY	State	IDAHO
	County	BOUNDARY	Zip Code	83805-4816
	Country	UNITED STATES
	Airworthiness
	Engine Manufacturer	LYCOMING	Classification	Standard
	Engine Model	TI0-540 SER	Category	Normal
			A/W Date	12/06/2005
	This is the most current Airworthiness Certificate data, however, it may not reflect the current aircraft configuration. For that information, see the aircraft record. A copy can be obtained at
	Other Owner Names
GARDINER ADA

	Temporary Certificate
	None
	Fuel Modifications
None

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Deregistered Aircraft

Deregistered Aircraft 1 of 1

Aircraft Description

Serial Number

4335

Type Registration

Corporation

Manufacturer Name

BELL

Certificate Issue Date

01/23/2003

Model

206B

Mode S Code

50355011

Year Manufacturer

1995

Cancel Date

03/20/2003

Reason for Cancellation

Exported

Export To

INDIA

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Aircraft Registration prior to Deregistration

Name

AGROTORS INC

Street

PO BOX 4537

City

GETTYSBURG

State

PENNSYLVANIA

Zip Code

17325-4537

County

ADAMS

Country

UNITED STATES

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Deregistered Airworthiness

Engine Manufacturer

ALLISON

Classification

Standard

Engine Model

03020

Category

Agriculture and Pest Control

A/W Date

09/24/2002

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Deregistered Other Owner Names

None

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Data Updated each Federal Working Day at Midnight

[Thermalseeker]

...they can be started by turning the magnetos on and spinning the prop by hand.

Hand propping a Lycoming IO-540? Highly unlikely.....

[seemoAR]

Maybe I should have said some. I do know of several types of small planes that can be propped. Stinson Voyagers, Aeronca Champs and Cessna 172I’s are examples. One of my friends has a 172 and I have helped start his.

[Thermalseeker]

I used to own a Pawnee with an 0-540 in it that I used to tow gliders. There is no way I would ever consider trying to hand prop that beast.....

[Squawk 8888]

A plane doesn’t have keys right?

Cessna singles have keys that control the ignition system and the starter. Hot-wiring is easier than with cars, but there's no way I'll post the method on a public forum.

[seemoAR]

I don’t think I would hand prop any engine either. The thing that scares me about the magneto is the ease at which they can be started if everything is set up right. A mag switch can fail to close when it is turned off and the ignition will be hot. They can fire if the prop is turned.

[steve86]

I used to own a Pawnee with an 0-540 in it that I used to tow gliders. There is no way I would ever consider trying to hand prop that beast.....

Michelle Gorilla would have no problem doing it.

[Cindy]

You’re always welcome fanfan.

[Thermalseeker]

They can fire if the prop is turned.

Yes, particularly when the engine is hot. They can also kick back when they are hot. That's a good way to lose a hand.

When I was a teenager I worked at the local county airport as a lineman. One day we had a guy fly in for fuel in an Aircoupe. After fueling, he went to crank up and leave, but his battery was dead. I asked him if he wanted a jump, but he refused, stating he would just hand prop it. He hand propped the engine and it started right up. Trouble was, his left brake didn't hold and he'd put a wee bit too much throttle on. The airplane went around and around in a circle since the right brake was holding. Each revolution getting closer and closer to the gas pumps. It was really a frightening thing to watch. He chased it down and managed to get up on the wing, reach in and flick off the mags. Another two or three revolutions and he'd have taken out the pumps.

[seemoAR]

You are supposed to pull the wires off lawn mower spark plugs for the same reason if you work on the blades.