Lamh Foistenach Abu!
Posted on 09/28/2009 7:13:30 PM PDT by honestabe010
In May, President Obama set up a panel to study and propose the how, when and if for future US space flight efforts. Considering Obama’s current shilly-shallying on his Afghan War policy, we should worry whether any American space program will be left when he finally makes up his mind.
Since NASA was formed by politics instead of pure scientific need due to Sputnik's launch by the USSR in 1957, one would not be surprised at its sinister, shaky hand at the throttle and purse strings.
However, John Kennedy was most eloquent and gallant when he defined why we would go to the moon: "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win..."
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Ping.
Yeah but no one gets out alive. IF you are talking about your future grandson, does it matter where he dies?
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
I don't think so.
Why not? Granted, it would take centuries...but why couldn’t Mars be terraformed?
“John Kennedy was most eloquent and gallant when he defined why we would go to the moon”
Kennedy eloquently and gallantly let Project Orion die. Had he a little more backbone and vision we’d have be celebrating the Mars’ colonies 40th anniversary next year.
“John Kennedy was most eloquent and gallant when he defined why we would go to the moon”
Kennedy eloquently and gallantly let Project Orion die. Had he a little more backbone and vision we’d have be celebrating the Mars’ colonies 40th anniversary next year.
You’re right, the idea we can make Mars habitable is a pipe dream. It’s magnetic core is dead, therefore it can never prevent deadly radiation from the Sun. Humanity is never going to live off this rock and will perish here eventually.
Maybe not to you, fish. But to me, it means a hell of a lot!
honestabe010, thanks for posting my column.
Silly me! I though posting my column at "Space.Com” forums as it would bring about some discussion or some give and take from real space buffs. Yet it appears all I did was break the rules on 'fair use,' got admonished for it and had one comment from a flat-earther who would only appreciate me never again writing another word on the subject.
Oh well, another lesson learned the hard way out of the blue, eh?
The lack of a Marian magnetic core is a very big problem, but it is not a game breaker. The moon does not have any atmosphere to speak of and man has been there, survived and come back safely.
I believe if we can find a way to live and work on the airless moon, we can do the same on a terraformed Mars. Nobody is saying it will be easy or without really big obstacles to overcome.
In those centuries it would take, there may be a few new wrinkles invented that would solve the problem of shielding the sun's radiation.
What amazes me is that when you consider that in the lifespan of my grandfather from when was born in 1901 and when he died in 1978, man took to the air for the first time when Pa was two and had been to the moon and safely returned more than once by the time of his death.
Just imagine what can and will happen by the time of the 100th anniversary of his death in 2078?
I guess to we true believers of our species traveling out among the stars being the future of mankind, it is akin to religion. You have to have faith and you have to believe.
Agreed that there was tremendous scientific and technological advancement in the past 100 years. From that, we can not assume there will be a similar advance in the next 100 years. My thinking is there will not be. The world is changing dramatically and not in ways that will foster continued scientific achievement in these areas as in the past.
Wow, Bender! I’m no fan of JFK, but I would have loved to have been there with you to hear that speech. I wish people would get it through their little skulls that space is where the greatest commodity in the world is-the future.
Yes, we were all in awe of JFK and totally ignorant of the man and his dark side that would finally come out years later. Yet by 1964 I began to mature and was Press Chairman for the Youth For Goldwater. He came to Houston to speak at the old Colt .45 stadium and I got to shake his hand. I had just turned 17 the month before but felt ten feet tall that night when the Senator said to me, "I hear you've been doing good work for us. Keep it up!"
I still get goosebumps just recalling it today.
Goldwater spoke to a large crowd and repeated a section of his acceptance address at the Republican National Convention.
Those words still have meaning for us today:
"Now, my fellow Americans, the tide has been running against freedom. Our people have followed false prophets. We must, and we shall, return to proven ways-- not because they are old, but because they are true. We must, and we shall, set the tide running again in the cause of freedom. And this party, with its every action, every word, every breath, and every heartbeat, has but a single resolve, and that is freedom - freedom made orderly for this nation by our constitutional government; freedom under a government limited by laws of nature and of nature's God; freedom - balanced so that liberty lacking order will not become the slavery of the prison cell; balanced so that liberty lacking order will not become the license of the mob and of the jungle.
"Now, we Americans understand freedom. We have earned it, we have lived for it, and we have died for it. This Nation and its people are freedom's model in a searching world. We can be freedom's missionaries in a doubting world. But, ladies and gentlemen, first we must renew freedom's mission in our own hearts and in our own homes.
I'd still follow old Barry to hell and back!
We should also build a few deep underground towns sealed off from the surface and living off Earth's heat rather than needing solar radiation. That would be less expensive and have a much safer escape route if something goes wrong. This would insure human survival from most any disaster or attack.
Cannot say I agree with you pessimism but I can certainly see where you could think that considering how easy many have followed Algore's Global Warming Scam and a majority of the American electorate bought Obama's crapola hook, line and sinker.
Yet I do believe the tide has turned and we will find the road back to sanity will make 2010 a year of rebirth.
And, Barack, old sport... 
a long form birth certificate will be required!
Until we can figure out a method of shielding from radiation, Mars colonization is a dead issue, even with an Orion. OTOH, an Orion would allow an instant Moon Colony, allowing us to take enough equipment and people to dig in fast.
BTW if you ever want to post anything on Space.Com, make sure you agree in lockstep with their liberal line or you will be chased out of their universe just ahead of their tar & feathers brigade.
Invariably that pesky radiation problem always comes up. If nothing else I would have loved it if they’d launched unmanned Orion’s . . . man made signals returned from another solar system; now that would be something.
BTW, have you read Homer Hickham’s ‘Back to the Moon’? I just finished it . . . fantastic.
Yeah, an Orion would also allow 0bama to use up some of those nuke warheads he wants to get rid of too. I read somewhere that one could get up to about 5% lightspeed with one.
Yes, I have. Good book.
>> We should also build a few deep underground towns sealed off from the surface and living off Earth’s heat rather than needing solar radiation. That would be less expensive and have a much safer escape route if something goes wrong. This would insure human survival from most any disaster or attack. <<
Bah, that is Reptilian Talk.
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