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Wabash Valley woman didn’t realize second cold medicine purchase violated drug laws (Indiana)
The (Terra Haute) Tribune-Star ^ | September 03, 2009 | Lisa Trigg

Posted on 09/28/2009 12:56:53 PM PDT by bamahead

CLINTON — When Sally Harpold bought cold medicine for her family back in March, she never dreamed that four months later she would end up in handcuffs.

Now, Harpold is trying to clear her name of criminal charges, and she is speaking out in hopes that a law will change so others won’t endure the same embarrassment she still is facing.

“This is a very traumatic experience,” Harpold said.

Harpold is a grandmother of triplets who bought one box of Zyrtec-D cold medicine for her husband at a Rockville pharmacy. Less than seven days later, she bought a box of Mucinex-D cold medicine for her adult daughter at a Clinton pharmacy, thereby purchasing 3.6 grams total of pseudoephedrine in a week’s time.

Those two purchases put her in violation of Indiana law 35-48-4-14.7, which restricts the sale of ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, or PSE, products to no more than 3.0 grams within any seven-day period.

When the police came knocking at the door of Harpold’s Parke County residence on July 30, she was arrested on a Vermillion County warrant for a class-C misdemeanor, which carries a sentence of up to 60 days in jail and up to a $500 fine. But through a deferral program offered by Vermillion County Prosecutor Nina Alexander, the charge could be wiped from Harpold’s record by mid-September.

Harpold’s story is one that concerns some law-abiding citizens who fear that innocent people will get mistakenly caught in the net of meth abuse roundups.

While the law was written with the intent of stopping people from purchasing large quantities of drugs to make methamphetamine, the law does not say the purchase must be made with the intent to make meth.

“The law does not make this distinction...I’m simply enforcing the law as it was written,” Alexander said.

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1 posted on 09/28/2009 12:56:53 PM PDT by bamahead
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Just damn.



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2 posted on 09/28/2009 12:57:52 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: bamahead
She should have gone to her local meth dealer to buy some of his pseudoephedrine.
3 posted on 09/28/2009 12:59:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: bamahead

Sounds like a local prosecutor thinks she has found a way to gain fame. She did, but I think the wrong kind.


4 posted on 09/28/2009 12:59:40 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From Barack Hussein Al-Obama. Amen.)
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To: bamahead

requiring housewives to be chemists in order to comply with the law....yeah, that sounds about right....


5 posted on 09/28/2009 12:59:41 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bamahead

Man oh Man! I just purchased several cold medicines here in Florida at different stores. I hope I’m not going to get in trouble. Had to even sign at one of the stores. That’s it...I’m moving!


6 posted on 09/28/2009 12:59:53 PM PDT by classified
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To: bamahead

Pretty soon it will be an ammo ration, only 5 rds per hunting season.


7 posted on 09/28/2009 12:59:58 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: bamahead

Give the meth-heads all the meth they want. In short order, there won’t be any more meth-heads, and the rest of us can stop having to deal with the various nasty societal effects of meth-head infestation.


8 posted on 09/28/2009 1:00:31 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: bamahead

Another win in the zero-tolerance War on Drugs.


9 posted on 09/28/2009 1:01:00 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: bamahead

This is a very stupid law. Mitch needs to get it changed!


10 posted on 09/28/2009 1:01:06 PM PDT by blf1776 (The Left is ruthless, the GOP is spineless.)
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To: bamahead
“The law does not make this distinction...I’m simply enforcing the law as it was written,” Alexander said.

I suppose Alexander never considered Letter of the Law vs Spirit of the Law.

11 posted on 09/28/2009 1:01:48 PM PDT by IrishPennant (/tagline off due to self moderation)
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...I’m simply enforcing the law as it was written,” Alexander said.

This person needs a good tarring and feathering.

12 posted on 09/28/2009 1:01:49 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: bamahead
“The law does not make this distinction...I’m simply enforcing the law as it was written,” Alexander said.

The law here is an ass ... and apparently so are you.

13 posted on 09/28/2009 1:01:50 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: bamahead

I take Zyrtec-D daily and buying it at the local drugstore is damn near as complicated as getting a mortgage. And every time I go to the store to buy Zyrtec-D, I have to count back to see how many days it has been since I bought my last box.

Stupid Nanny State
Stupid Police State


14 posted on 09/28/2009 1:02:11 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: IrishPennant

Spirit of the Law is what liberals love to use, however I do agree with you in this situation.


15 posted on 09/28/2009 1:02:54 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: bamahead

oh geez


16 posted on 09/28/2009 1:03:15 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: bamahead
1776-2009

America, great while it lasted - 233 years is a long time to be free.

17 posted on 09/28/2009 1:03:36 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: bamahead

Based on what I see on the local news, law enforcement personnel around here (Indiana) have a lot more important things to work on.

Of course going after middle aged housewives for cold meds violations is likely a lot easier (and safer) than rounding up illegals and gang members.


18 posted on 09/28/2009 1:03:44 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: bamahead

Overzealous prosecutor, laws that anyone could innocently break.

But don’t let an American interrogator so much as speak loudly to a terrorist, that would be cruel!

We’re all breaking some law at this very moment.


19 posted on 09/28/2009 1:03:57 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: bamahead
"...Zyrtec-D cold medicine for her husband at a Rockville pharmacy... she bought a box of Mucinex-D cold medicine for her adult daughter at a Clinton pharmacy..."

So, single purchases of OTC drugs are now being reported and databased...?
20 posted on 09/28/2009 1:04:29 PM PDT by frankenMonkey
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To: bamahead

here, in our town, we are not allowed to go over the set amount because we have to show our drivers’ licenses when we request the medicine—all of which has been removed from the shelves... during the months of April and May, this causes a hardship for my friend because all five members of her family suffer from seasonal hay fever... it’s stupid!


21 posted on 09/28/2009 1:04:39 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: frankenMonkey

Yep. For cold medicines containing pseudoephedrine, it’s been going on for a few years now.

I’m not sure what other OTC drugs are logged.


22 posted on 09/28/2009 1:05:52 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Bought a box of Zyrtec-D last Thanksgiving Day and in the process of signing my name and showing the pharmacist my ID, I said, “Just a family tradition, roast a turkey, watch the Cowboys and cook up a batch of meth.”

The pharmacist laughed.


23 posted on 09/28/2009 1:05:58 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: bamahead

Wouldn’t every one have been better off if they had just done an investigation to determine if she was using these drugs illegally. When the arrest was made they could have verified what she was doing with the drug.


24 posted on 09/28/2009 1:06:49 PM PDT by ontap
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To: LukeL
Pretty soon it will be an ammo ration, only 5 rds per hunting season.

Why on earth would anybody need to kill 5 deer? Probably can't get that many tags anyway.

25 posted on 09/28/2009 1:07:17 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: bamahead
While the law was written with the intent of stopping people from purchasing large quantities of drugs to make methamphetamine, the law does not say the purchase must be made with the intent to make meth.

“The law does not make this distinction...I’m simply enforcing the law as it was written,” (Prosecutor Nina) Alexander said.

You know, sometimes a little common sense goes a long way. How do these brainless prosecutors get elected?

26 posted on 09/28/2009 1:07:30 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: bamahead
“The law does not make this distinction...I’m simply enforcing the law as it was written,” Alexander said.

"I vuss only followink orders!" You're the prosecutor, you do have discretion. If you know the law is wrong or wasn't intended to apply to a specific incident, don't prosecute. If you keep doing that I hope you end up like Mike Nifong.

27 posted on 09/28/2009 1:07:35 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: bamahead
Harpold is a grandmother of triplets who bought one box of Zyrtec-D cold medicine for her husband at a Rockville pharmacy. Less than seven days later, she bought a box of Mucinex-D cold medicine for her adult daughter at a Clinton pharmacy, thereby purchasing 3.6 grams total of pseudoephedrine in a week’s time. Those two purchases put her in violation of Indiana law 35-48-4-14.7, which restricts the sale of ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, or PSE, products to no more than 3.0 grams within any seven-day period.

OK, what I don't get is you can buy bulk packages of Zyrtec at Sams that I'm sure total well more than 3.0 grams. Heck, bought one of these big packs earlier year.

28 posted on 09/28/2009 1:07:46 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: KarlInOhio

Yea! He’s buying it every eight days.


29 posted on 09/28/2009 1:08:03 PM PDT by ontap
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Give the meth-heads all the meth they want. In short order, there won’t be any more meth-heads, and the rest of us can stop having to deal with the various nasty societal effects of meth-head infestation.

Great minds think alike.

30 posted on 09/28/2009 1:08:24 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: LukeL
What? 5 rounds sounds like plenty to me. You can't bag your limit with 5 rounds? Sounds like you need to do some target practice...at a state controlled range...using state controlled ammunition....:) :)

This is what happens to people when they put their trust in government rather than in God and themselves.
31 posted on 09/28/2009 1:09:26 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: mnehring

Was it the pseudoephedrine free kind? Those aren’t database and tracked.


32 posted on 09/28/2009 1:09:55 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: ConservaTexan
America, great while it lasted - 233 years is a long time to be free.

You're counting right up to this year? Why? I say take about 80-100 years off that total. Prohibition, NFA, income tax, etc.

33 posted on 09/28/2009 1:10:09 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: bamahead

The law was poorly written. The police acted “stupidly”. The “rule of law” however, did it’s job. It blindly prosecuted a woman without the burden of human reason.


34 posted on 09/28/2009 1:10:31 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: bamahead

Alexander, you are an excrement head if you chose to prosecute. Really, you should be fired or recalled, which ever fits, and frog-marched out of office if that is an example of your common sense. There are plenty of qualified people looking for work and you sure seem to be just taking up space.


35 posted on 09/28/2009 1:10:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: ConservaTexan
America, great while it lasted - 233 years is a long time to be free.

Actually the same law has existed here in Texas since 2005 and on the Federal level since 2006.

And yes, these laws were brought to you by Republican legislatures and executives.

36 posted on 09/28/2009 1:10:37 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: bamahead

Good question, I didn’t pay attention, just grabbed what my wife asked for. Are there different types of Zyrtec?


37 posted on 09/28/2009 1:10:53 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: dirtboy

Yes he is an ass, also likely that he wants this law off the books. Sympathetic defendant, stupid law, tons of publicity. This will likely force a change in a bad law by the time this is over.

Sometimes the best way to force a change in a stupid law is to enforce it vigorously,


38 posted on 09/28/2009 1:11:24 PM PDT by gtk
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To: bamahead
I'll sleep better tonight that this violent drug maker granddmother was arrested.
39 posted on 09/28/2009 1:11:25 PM PDT by skyman
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To: frankenMonkey

If they have pseudoephedrine in them, yeah, in a lot of states they are.


40 posted on 09/28/2009 1:11:42 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: NonValueAdded

It would have to get passed a grand jury as well, hopefully one with enough common sense to No Bill it.


41 posted on 09/28/2009 1:11:46 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: AxelPaulsenJr; bamahead; fiscon1
"Sounds like a local prosecutor thinks she has found a way to gain fame. She did, but I think the wrong kind."

Ms Alexander should move next door here to Chicago. Operating meth labs is an Olympic sport here. As a matter of fact, they will need to relocate several of them just to build the Olympic venues.

42 posted on 09/28/2009 1:12:28 PM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer (Change the Change -- Vote Republican™)
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To: Sudetenland

And using those less deadly bullets the Surgeon General was talking about.


43 posted on 09/28/2009 1:12:59 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: bamahead

Anything containing pseudoephedrine. Pretty much anything labeled “D.”


44 posted on 09/28/2009 1:13:05 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Member of AARP - Armed And Really Pi$$ED!)
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To: gtk
"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

-Abraham Lincoln

45 posted on 09/28/2009 1:13:41 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ontap

Or wait a month or so and see if she’s still averaging over the allowed usage per week. If she’s cooking meth, she ain’t going to make very much with 3.6g. It would have to be an ongoing thing.


46 posted on 09/28/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: classified

Last fall during Biketoberfest in Daytona Beach, I happened to be in a local drugstore chain and checking out in front of me was an older woman from Canada. She was trying to buy one package of Claritin-D for her bad cold. The cashier would not sell to her because she did not have her passport with her since the drivers license numbers in Canada have too many characters to be input into the drugstores computers! I was outraged.


47 posted on 09/28/2009 1:14:29 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: classified

THAT HAPPENEED INM cONNECTICUT TO ME LAST SPRING, i WAS STUNNED

EVER WONDER WHY YOU CANT GET VICKS FORULA 44 ANYMORE??


48 posted on 09/28/2009 1:14:37 PM PDT by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: bamahead
“The law does not make this distinction...I’m simply enforcing the law as it was written,” Alexander said.

That's right, use the letter of the law to undermine the spirit of the law.. common sense is dead in government.

49 posted on 09/28/2009 1:14:53 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: mnehring

Yeah, most manufacturers of major brands (Sudafed, Zyrtec, etc) are now making at least two kinds - with pseudoephedrine, and without - mainly because of the meth issue.

In most states now, the pseudoephedrine brand is not even sold in the pharmacy aisles any longer - you have to go to the counter and ask for it, and fill out a form when you purchase it. Law enforcement now tracks the amount purchased using that data.

Some major brands have now forgone using pseudoephedrine altogether. I forget exactly which. This all started about 3-4 years ago if I recall.


50 posted on 09/28/2009 1:15:17 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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