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Dramatic increase in Americans declaring no religion (good news for muslim moles)
One News Now ^ | Sat 9/26/09 | AP

Posted on 09/26/2009 1:34:33 PM PDT by IbJensen

HARTFORD, CT - A new report finds that American adults who claim no religious affiliation increased from 14 million in 1990 to 34 million in 2008.

The new profile of America's "No Religion Population" takes a deeper look at data collected for the American Religious Identification Survey 2008, which was released by Trinity College.

The new report says those who don't claim any religious affiliation are more likely to be male, young, living in the West and politically independent.

(Excerpt) Read more at onenewsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; secularization; trends
"...beliefs that reflect skepticism rather than overt antagonism toward religion."

Americans had better get right with their Maker. Eternity is, after all, forever.

The Muslims will outnumber us!

1 posted on 09/26/2009 1:34:33 PM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

WEll, I don’t have a religious affiliation, but I don’t anticipate becoming Muslim any tme soon.


2 posted on 09/26/2009 1:41:08 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: IbJensen

Most Americans are right with their maker, its the institutions that are off track.

I think organized religion has been looking a lot like out spineless GOP lately. Between the we really don’t like to talk about the consequences of ignoring the 10 commandments to the outright denying of the bible, its hard for an American to say they belong to a specific church or sect.
Maybe it’s time for some of the churches to get right with their maker and quit bending over for every liberal idea out there.


3 posted on 09/26/2009 1:42:00 PM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: IbJensen
Here we go...back to the "groupthink" again...

Why would they think that if people have no religious affiliation, that they would then join with the muslim religion?

Most Americans I know would not be caught in daylight kneeling and chanting 4 or 5 times a day...most won't even go to church and silently pray one time a week.

Admittedly, the liberal have made muslim the only "religion" that they will tolerate in public, schools, etc...which in itself is scary as hell. If liberals like it, I generally don't like it...for theirs is to promote low morals and evil throughout the land.

We don't have to be in a "group" to worship our God...we can do it privately, and independently, and still go to heaven just as fast.

Only weak people need "groups" to survive.
4 posted on 09/26/2009 1:48:32 PM PDT by FrankR ( We're up to "reverse discrimination"...what's next, "reverse SLAVERY"?)
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To: IbJensen

Oh well, the Muslims will want them dead, too, if they don’t convert.


5 posted on 09/26/2009 1:50:21 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: IbJensen
We are in the days of the great falling away brought about by tribulation.

"let no man beguile you in any wise: for it will not be, except the falling away come first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."(2Th 2:3)

We have been building to a time where the majority of folks that warm the pews became so weak in their faith(if they every had any to begin with!)that the least tremor of hardship and suffering would drive them out. Count your blessings if you are not one of them because Jesus is right around the corner! This is one of the major signs that He said to watch for. The next big event is "the Son of Perdition" being revealed.

6 posted on 09/26/2009 1:52:36 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: FrankR

“We don’t have to be in a “group” to worship our God...we can do it privately, and independently, and still go to heaven just as fast.

Only weak people need “groups” to survive.”

Hence all the vaunted models in Scripture and church history of solitary Christianity?


7 posted on 09/26/2009 1:55:53 PM PDT by sthguard (Pres__ent Obama: He's All Ego.)
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To: IbJensen

John Lennon, mission accomplished. Yoko must be proud, and was quoted as saying “Aiiiiiiyyyyyyeeeeeeeeiiiiiiyyyyyeeeee”


8 posted on 09/26/2009 1:57:46 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: All

Could it be that they are just not associating with a denomination rather than being unbelievers? The mainstream Protestant churches, at least on a national level, have been criticizing white males for years. Maybe they don’t want to go to church and be blamed for everything.


9 posted on 09/26/2009 1:58:28 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: FrankR

To quote Don Williams - “Well I don’t believe that heaven waits for only those who congregate.”


10 posted on 09/26/2009 2:00:26 PM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: swatbuznik
Oh well, the Muslims will want them dead, too, if they don’t convert.

The can want it all they like, but this atheist is well armed...

11 posted on 09/26/2009 2:04:01 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: IbJensen
My dogtags labeled my religion "Protestant - Other".

Whether people are 'right with their maker' has nothing to do with church attendance or with your insistence.

God doesn't hide out in your little sanctuary.

12 posted on 09/26/2009 2:04:37 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: IbJensen
Is this a factor? According to the Southern Baptist Council:

-- 88 percent of the children raised in evangelical homes leave church at the age of 18, never to return.

http://www.sbcannualmeeting.net/sbc02/newsroom/newspage.asp?ID=261

13 posted on 09/26/2009 2:09:14 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: sthguard

OTOH, there is Paul’s recommendation to the Hebrew Christians:

Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.


14 posted on 09/26/2009 2:12:20 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: IbJensen

Screw religion, it’s killed millions. I resent the fact that because I have no religion you people think I will become Muslim, or that I don’t know the difference between oppression and freedom.


15 posted on 09/26/2009 2:13:41 PM PDT by I Like Lincoln
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To: IbJensen

Not at my Catholic Church.

Growing like wildfire!


16 posted on 09/26/2009 2:16:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Big_Harry

I’m not weak in my faith! I earnestly study the Bible and the principles of Judeo-Christian beliefs.

It’s just that I refuse to become involved in organized religion.


17 posted on 09/26/2009 2:16:18 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: neefer
To quote Don Williams - “Well I don’t believe that heaven waits for only those who congregate.”

Nice belief, Don. Be a bummer if God doesn't agree.

18 posted on 09/26/2009 2:20:01 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: IbJensen
This has nothing to do with the Muslim. This process has started more than 200 years ago, swept Europe and now came here.
19 posted on 09/26/2009 2:27:12 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: IbJensen
I have noticed that the pubbies are getting a higher percentage of votes from Catholics and other denominations but are not making strides in their territories that you would expect to go with that. Unless I miss my guess the lib's are leaving the church's. Soon the only ones left will be the ones who run the main line congregations. so this is the opportunity to take back your churches.
20 posted on 09/26/2009 2:30:12 PM PDT by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: Big_Harry

You put it quite rightly. People seem to think that God is some sort of genie who will grant them wishes and they abandon God when they don’t get what they want.


21 posted on 09/26/2009 2:31:33 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: FrankR
"Why would they think that if people have no religious affiliation, that they would then join with the muslim religion?"

Because Nature abhors vacuum. People that believe nothing will not defend their heritage.

Do you really think that the combined resources of the Christendom were insufficient to prevent the fall of Constantinople in 1453? Of course not. But why would those that sacked the City just a few years before defend it now?

People that see this development as paving away for Sharia do have reasons to worry.

22 posted on 09/26/2009 2:32:13 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Ken H

That does not sound right to me.


23 posted on 09/26/2009 2:32:27 PM PDT by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: TopQuark
People that believe nothing will not defend their heritage.

Not believing in God is not incompatible with believing in, and defending, freedom.

24 posted on 09/26/2009 2:40:29 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: IbJensen

I thought liberal humanistic environMENTALism was a religion. I guess the nut bags don’t know that.


25 posted on 09/26/2009 2:41:46 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: IbJensen
Dramatic increase in Americans declaring no religion (good news for muslim moles)

Obama's no "muslim mole". He's a communist mole. Like every other communist, he hasn't a religious bone in his body. That is, unless one considers marxism a religion of sorts.

26 posted on 09/26/2009 2:41:56 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: IbJensen
From AsiaTimesOnline
Feb 26, 2008

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

27 posted on 09/26/2009 2:43:03 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: IbJensen
"Frank Chapman, a CPUSA supporter, has written a letter to the party newspaper hailing the Illinois senator's victory in the Iowa caucuses:

"Obama’s victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle. Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary 'mole,' not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through."
-People's Weekly World (PWW), official newspaper of the Communist Party, USA..."
http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/12302/1/405

AIM article: Obama’s Communist Mentor
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

28 posted on 09/26/2009 2:45:06 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

I watched the church of my youth (Corpus Christi of Rochester, NY) get infiltrated by gays and women demanding “priesthood”. It took a long while until the Bishop did anything about it. Too long. I can be Religious on my own. I try to do good and watch over my family and friends.


29 posted on 09/26/2009 2:53:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: pnh102

Well, as a full gospel man, I believe that the main problem in the church is the preaching of a watered down gospel has led us into a state where the power of the Holy Spirit is greatly diminished because of unbelief or a refusal to submit to God’s authority. Signs and wonders still are done in confirmation of solid preaching, just not in very many main stream churches. If that word is watered, then the faith of the listener is not going to be built up either.


30 posted on 09/26/2009 3:12:37 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: SatinDoll
I do not know anything about you or your level of faith. Only you know if you have a heartfelt relationship with Jesus Christ or just head knowledge of His existence. We are commanded to have fellowship with one another in Hebrews 10:25: " not forsaking our own assembling together, as the custom of some is, but exhorting one another; and so much the more, as ye see the day drawing nigh. "

One way to be certain whether you are on the right path or not is to look back and see if there is fruit from your past walk. Jesus said that you would be able to tell the tree by its fruit. I ask myself daily if I am trying to become more like Jesus or not. Sadly, some days the answer is "No", but a "disciple" must always strive to become like the "Master" or that person is not a "follower" except in name; in our case the title often lied about is "Christian".

31 posted on 09/26/2009 3:23:33 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: SamuraiScot

Guess I just don’t understand Christians who think I’m bound for hell if I don’t show up to sing with them on a Sunday morning. God made me a loner.


32 posted on 09/26/2009 3:29:36 PM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: IbJensen

“The new report says those who don’t claim any religious affiliation are more likely to be male, young,GAY living in the West and politically independent (STUPID).

HOPE I FIXED IT!


33 posted on 09/26/2009 3:51:19 PM PDT by supermop (Somebody has to clean up the mess he will leave)
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To: IbJensen; All

More interesting comments on this news item:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2348804/posts

and

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2345402/posts

Not being the thread police - I never object to duplicate threads (on interesting topics) since I usually miss the first post (or two).


34 posted on 09/26/2009 6:00:19 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: I Like Lincoln
Screw religion, it’s killed millions. I resent the fact that because I have no religion you people think I will become Muslim, or that I don’t know the difference between oppression and freedom.

I do NOT think you will become Muslim, although you sound like one of the ignorant, conformist idiots who would. You are a product of the cultural Marxism that infested the US from Europe during the 1900's.

Atheism has been the cause of far more millions of peoples being killed, so your point is bogus. Cultural Marxism led to Mussolini's Italy, Lenin's (Stalin's)Russia, Mao's China and Hitler's Germany. They alone account for hundreds of millions of people's deaths and that only happened after all Christian thought was vilified and demeaned, blamed for every evil, then persecuted and all semblance of Christian philosophy was anihilated. Only with the destruction of Judeo-Christian philosophy will the people fall for the illogical utopia of Marxism.

Christianity teaches in the intrinsic value of every human being, where Marxism will kill off whoever "they" (read that as god) deem not "worthy" of life because they are a drain on the collective. (Whoever is in power will also destroy anyone who disagrees with their ideas so there is NO FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!!!!! Which means NO FREEDOM to raise your own children if they decide you can have any.) As the Pope has said, the central ideal of Marxism is extremely evil.

Christianity is the most perfect ideology in the history of man. Compare the inventions,the progress, the freedoms of women, men and children that is the sole result of the Judeo-Christian paradigm--the most perfect ideology in the history of all cultures. There has been no equivalent in the history of the world.

To believe in God is far more pragmatic than believing in atheism-- that everything came from NOTHING. There can be NO reason in that type of thinking, so I can understand someone who can't process thought, should fall for the Marxist Obambi cr*p and all the disinformation put out by the MSM.

Many of American's churches have been de-Christianized (actually calling sin, good, as was done in Europe a hundred years ago). Many schools have become atheist indoctrination centers who teach revisionist history, so that the children will be ignorant of the genius of our Christian heritage and the genius of our Founding Fathers who recognized the BEST IDEAS of WESTERN CIVILIZATION (far superior to any Eastern civilization). No people are flawless, because it is understood that humans are not perfect. But the idea was to strive for perfection--for the Truth-- and that that would create the most possible utopian society for the most people here on earth. So far, facts have proven that to be the case.

35 posted on 09/26/2009 6:07:38 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: sthguard
Only weak people need “groups” to survive.”

Without a group, no one would survive. Most of human history of mankind has been one group conquering another group. Groups were necessary for survival and the division of labor.

True the worship of God need not be in group form, but ideas do better in the marketplace. That is why the US was so superior to other countries. They had individualism, so people were not easily cowed into accepting others viewpoint, but they also had vibrant, strong churches and most people read the Bible.

Geography prevented a lot of people from belonging to a church, but those groups that did led to universities and hospitals and charities and schools, which enriched the society and made it a stronger and better place to live, not only for the less fortunate, but for the gifted. Society does affect the individuals and if individuals do not contribute or participate in the institutions of the society, then it becomes weak and is taken over by a more cohesive, dominate group with different ideas. We have been lucky in this country because of the Constitution and the respect for freedom of ideas.

No other place has been as free as this country, or as generous, and it is because of the Judeo-Christian paradigm that has existed here for several hundred years.

Cultural Marxism is trying to destroy Christianity because it was the main obstruction to their atheist totalitarianism and world government. The US would never have been the outstanding success that it was had it been founded by Marxists or Islamists.

36 posted on 09/26/2009 7:06:15 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: TopQuark
"Because Nature abhors vacuum. "

That....is the answer to my question? You must work for NBC.
37 posted on 09/26/2009 7:49:48 PM PDT by FrankR ( We're up to "reverse discrimination"...what's next, "reverse SLAVERY"?)
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To: neefer

My father was not a churchgoer, but his kindness and generosity was legendary in our old neighborhoold. I can’t believe that he would not have attained his salvation just because he didn’t go to church.


38 posted on 09/26/2009 7:57:06 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

When the face of religion becomes scamartist evangelists, molesting priests, hateful prisspots, and antidarwin flatearth buffoons, you really can’t be surprised if people are pushed en masse away from religion.


39 posted on 09/26/2009 10:29:25 PM PDT by tlb
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To: IbJensen; fatnotlazy

fatnotlazy, pardon. Clicked the wrong button there. Response was intended for reply 1.


40 posted on 09/26/2009 10:36:41 PM PDT by tlb
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To: I Like Lincoln
You're a strange one.

Your comment makes little sense unless it was made to prove you have a split personality.

41 posted on 09/27/2009 3:40:50 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Most of the humanist eco-freaks are just insane narcissists much like the current occupant of the White House.


42 posted on 09/27/2009 3:43:24 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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