Posted on 09/25/2009 7:33:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Levin isn’t a standard neocon but he is slavishly loyal to the GOP.
...a very disturbing trend. I doubt Buckley, Goldwater, or Reagan would be very comfortable with some of these “conservatives.”
The Conservative movement has had a mite of success in the ACORN investigations, Van Jones, 100k people on the mall. All of sudden, we are all at each others throats. No wonder things never change.
Thanks Rabs. This sounds like many of my comments.
Not only was Levin completely wrong about the Bush economy, he tried to whitewash it and re-write history last Fall. What really gets me about this jerk is how arrogant he is on the air like this when he is wrong so often.
He was also wrong on election strategy too, if you listen to him ,republicans would still be in power if they spent all that money re-building Iraq but told the voters no pork for them. This is idiotic logic but his fans repeat it. GWB did prescription drugs and Education to win over specific voters to get past 2004 when GWB/Iraq popularity was fading. In the long term it didnt keep those voters, but it was an effective Rove short term strategy, and Levin is a “Elect Republicans or Die” man and showed himself last fall with McCain.
My other complaints is that Levin acts like Bush tax cuts would pay for all military and defense spending, then why not give everyone everything if the cure is always tax cuts? That was the result with GWB and now with Obama. “Government does NOT have to be paid for” is the message.
BTW : I was a Levin fan for years , read ‘Men in Black’ in those days. But now I see he spits out non-sense.
Now that is true.
I know, but Levin does seem to spend a fair amount of time attacking Savage (and the idiots who call Levin and get through his lame screening).
I think that your interpretation is correct, goodwithagun.
But this whole thing is ridicules: this type of infighting in out camp helps no one. There were many threads on FR on Levin/Beck with both of them thrown under the bus by Freepers. Hello? Levin is a RINO? Give me a break!
Reagan was correct on his 11th commandment
To the point of Obama’s presidency being a blessing in disguise: it remains to be seen, and we won’t know for another 3 years.
IF Obama and his chumps succeed in their agenda, we are going to have FUNDAMENTAL changes to American SYSTEM. As we know from history of such changes, like FDR’s - they are practically irreversible. For all McCain’s propensity of playing with by-partisan appeasement, he would still stink, but within parameters of the system. And our system is very robust and can withstand quite a bit of abuse. he would not done any structural changes.
IF Obama’s agenda is stopped because the Left got greedy and overreached and woke up a sleeping giant, than OK, it may be called a beneficial shake up.
I remain optimistic that the second is the case, but to say that McCain would be more dangerous - no way.
If McLame won, it would have meant the political demographic of the turn out would have been much different. We may not have seen a Dem majority in the Senate and closer numbers in the house. Big picture, it is silly for Beck to say Obama would have been better than McLame. The political demographic difference would have been such that many of the things like amnesty and healthcare may never even make it to the president.
Add to that, Beck also stated that he would have likely voted for Hillary! Well, considering all his research, did the fact that Hillary was also a SAUL ALINSKY diciple escape his thought process during the interview?
Please direct me to any recording, or anything in print, where he promotes a third party and I’ll concede.
He does state that HIS beliefs are more and more Libertarian every day, but he has often stated that he does not support the Libertarian party. He’s a conservative independent, with Libertarian values (and not the wacky ones, like legalizing drugs). If you’re for smaller government and freedom to live your life as you please, then you also have Libertarian values.
You know, when I heard Tim going off earlier this week, I thought, "He's going to be interviewed by the press very soon if he hasn't already. They've got a bead on Beck and this is the kind of stuff they love to blow out of proportion to try and bring him down." Looks like that was already in the works, which doesn't surprise me one bit.
My first reaction after it was known that Obama and McCain would be the nominees was: McCain with a Dim Congress would do more harm than Obama with a Dim Congress.
I’ve come close to changing my mind more than once, but still believe that. Always the thinking was that Obama would prove so radical that he would ignite a resurgence in conservative and non-Dim sentiment and produce huge Republican gains in 2010, as happened in 1994.
We are in the months where that will either prove true, or prove false. If most of Obama’s main initiatives can be defeated, and Republicans make a strong comeback in 2010, then it will have been proven true that McCain would have caused more damage than Obama.
McCain agreed with Obama on many polices such as amnesy, cap and trade, and green revolution nonsense. More harmful legislation could have passed under McCain than might under Obama. The next year is critical.
“I used to like Beck, but he turned me off with his constant broad brush of lumping Repubs in with the corrupt/commie Dems. Not even close.”
Yep, he’s turned me off. It’s getting tiresome.
"Are we to remain a Republic, or should we turn the Republic into an Empire?" The question operates on many levels from the political to the religious. The original argument was won by those who had an uniquely American agenda, i.e., the spreading of Truth, Justice, and the American way, which included Christianity (Protestant), Democratic Government (eventually), Sanitation, and Education.
Of course, our export version of civilization and the righteous way of life didn't automatically appeal to every one, and we had to do quite a bit of "Civilizing'em with a Krag." Our showcase project: The Philippines. Did it work? There's a book right there!
The Libertarians (and Beck) are beginning to question the sanity of this, not to mention its constitutionality, as did many sincere patriots when this school of thought predominated.
if we do not start hanging together we will most assuredly hang separately...
Lol. Sorry about the Salon link, I thought it was pron when it popped up. -Geeze-
You're exactly right. There's nothing to be gained attacking or spending any time on Beck.
savage and levin always have to criticize their fellow conservatives.
I like both of these guys but my guess is that Levin may be more upset by the attention that Beck is getting more than by his ideas. I do feel like the Republican party sold me out with McCain as their candidate. Even though I voted for him I hated pulling that lever. If Palin hadn’t been on the ticket with him I’m not sure I could have voted for him. Despite all that, the Republican party represents my views better than any other party. Sticking with it and improving it by making it return to true conservative principles is still our best bet for saving our Country.
Right. How many times did you cringe when McCain’s face came on TV to support liberal Democrat legislation? For me, every time McCain spoke I felt heart sick. He sounds strong on national defense but on every other issue, he is like a puppy waiting for a democrat or media type to rub his belly and he’ll do anything to get the reward.
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