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Judge will rule by noon on GOP appeal to block Senate pick (MA US Senate)
/www.bostonherald.com ^ | Friday, September 25, 2009 | Laura Crimaldi

Posted on 09/25/2009 7:22:49 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA

A Suffolk Superior Court judge will decide by noon on a Republican Party appeal for an emergency injunction to block the appointment of Kennedy family confidant Paul G. Kirk Jr. as interim U.S. senator.

The state GOP contends Gov. Deval Patrick overstepped his authority by attaching an emergency preamble to the Senate vacancy law signed yesterday so the legislation would be enacted immediately. The usual waiting period for enactment is 90 days.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: communist; corruption; devalpatrick; gop; kennedy; paulkirk
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Any bets on how this judge rules?
1 posted on 09/25/2009 7:22:50 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: GOPsterinMA

There is still a GOP in Masshole?


2 posted on 09/25/2009 7:24:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I have a pretty good idea.....


3 posted on 09/25/2009 7:24:42 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I bet he rules that it was ok for the Democrats to shove this appointment through.

And the judge will say that it’s okay to declare an emergency if a Senate seat is vacant. And he will say that it doesn’t change the existing law, because they are still going to have the special election to fill Kennedy’s senate seat.

I think we have the legal “reasoning” in mind already.


4 posted on 09/25/2009 7:25:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GOPsterinMA

any bets on how the judge rules REGARDLESS of what the Mass Constitution says!!!


5 posted on 09/25/2009 7:25:55 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (BO STINKS!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; nutmeg; raccoonradio

PING


6 posted on 09/25/2009 7:27:29 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“It is of supreme importance that the people of this great Commonwealth have representation before the United States Senate....yadda yadda”


7 posted on 09/25/2009 7:28:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GOPsterinMA

Claims that Mitt Romney “used the move” — which means just what? Did Mitt seat an interim Congressman this way?


8 posted on 09/25/2009 7:29:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
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9 posted on 09/25/2009 7:32:11 AM PDT by elizabethgrace
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’m holding my breath, turning blue, blue, blue bluer...

At least the GOP is trying to hold them to their own laws.


10 posted on 09/25/2009 7:32:32 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: GOPsterinMA
I didn´t knowthe Mass GOP had any balls! ExPostfacto is well established, even if a Mass-hole judge rules against the GOP it should be easily appealed and a victory for our side looks good.
11 posted on 09/25/2009 7:34:57 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: GOPsterinMA

He will rule for satan and the evilcrats... bank on it.

LLS


12 posted on 09/25/2009 7:35:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

He will deny the GOP hands-down.


13 posted on 09/25/2009 7:36:26 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Funny it wasn’t an emergency when he was sick and incapable of showing up for work. Same goes for Byrd.


14 posted on 09/25/2009 7:37:23 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: GOPsterinMA

It is good to see GOP starting to push back.


15 posted on 09/25/2009 7:39:27 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: GOPsterinMA
Hope the GOP lawyers are all ready prepared with an appeal!
16 posted on 09/25/2009 7:42:19 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
I think the question centers on whether or not Paul G. Kirk is gay ~ Deval only works closely with gays, so it's a lock that the question is before the court.

Now, if the judge is an old fashioned type Massachusetts judge into graft, corruption and parking lot payoffs he's not gonna' like the gay part.

If the guy is not gay, the judge is going to suspect a whopping big payoff to Deval ~ which is a whole 'nuther thing.

May be some fish to fry in there today.

17 posted on 09/25/2009 7:46:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GOPsterinMA
NOON? WHO the hell are they trying to kid?? Pieholes!
18 posted on 09/25/2009 7:46:30 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: GOPsterinMA

Why did the GOP wait until this was a done deal? Why didn’t they try to stop them right from the start?


19 posted on 09/25/2009 7:46:32 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: GOPsterinMA

You would have to be really stupid if you think this judge will rule with the Republicans. I am sure the judge is a Democrat.


20 posted on 09/25/2009 7:47:31 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Should have appealed that MA voters were disenfranchised from the votes - the precedence of Kennedy's last bill. Also that candidates who submitted under that bill were deprived of their rights under the Kennedy Bill. And third, that this is a Bill of Attainder.
21 posted on 09/25/2009 7:47:31 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Did Mitt seat an interim Congressman this way?

Couldn't have. The Constitution specifies "When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies."

A Gov, has to call an election to fill empty House seats.

22 posted on 09/25/2009 7:48:32 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Oh. Gee. Such Suspense. I can’t wait. What will the judge say? [/s]


23 posted on 09/25/2009 7:48:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

He may, but believe me—MA has worse judges.


24 posted on 09/25/2009 7:49:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: LexBaird

So there really is no parallel with Mitt. Mitt would have had to use the emergency preamble mechanism for other things, if the report of him using it at all is accurate.


25 posted on 09/25/2009 7:50:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Remember, it’s the MA state court system that “discovered” the consitutional “right” for same-sex couples to marry. It’ll “discover” ANYTHING that furthers a liberal agenda. It will be of no surprise that they allow the Dems to appoint whomever they want.


26 posted on 09/25/2009 7:50:42 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Romny never used the move. Romney was moved upon.

When John Kerry ran for president, there was a potentially empty senate seat in MA. The Democrats in the legislature pushed through a bill which took the power of appointment away from the government (Romney(R)) and authorized a special election to determine who would fill Kerry's seat in the senate.

Now that a Dem is governor, the legislature has allowed the governor to make the decision again -- although temporarily.

I am not aware of any finangling over US House seats being filled in MA.

27 posted on 09/25/2009 7:54:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: hoosiermama

Appeal? Yes, and when they appeal it up to the state supreme court they’ll lose there too. Just look who is on that court.


28 posted on 09/25/2009 7:54:17 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: GOPsterinMA

BTW, does it surprise anyone that the ‘emergency’ power the GOP is trying to stop Patrick from using was used by Romney 14 times, including “to increase the boating speed limit in Charlton and to change the office of town moderator in Milton”?

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/09/judge_to_rule_b.html


29 posted on 09/25/2009 7:55:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GOPsterinMA

The Rule of Law is just so damned inconvenient.

Life will be easier when Our Glorious Leader eliminates it entirely.


30 posted on 09/25/2009 7:58:52 AM PDT by kennedy (I'm a Kennedy with no experience or qualifications too! Where do I sign up for MY Senate seat?)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Yeah; I bet the judge sides with the Governor.


31 posted on 09/25/2009 8:04:03 AM PDT by no dems (Do NOT underestimate the amount of support out there for Sarah Palin.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

No, read this article before you say Romney didn’t use the move: http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/09/judge_to_rule_b.html


32 posted on 09/25/2009 8:05:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GOPsterinMA

One of the legal terms I learned early on (probably in grade school) was “ex post facto”. Why does that not apply here? The “fact” of this case is the death of Ted Kennedy. Isn’t it unconstitutional to apply a law written AFTER that date to a legal matter caused by that event? Perhaps some legal eagle can show me the error of my ways.


33 posted on 09/25/2009 8:07:09 AM PDT by mgpilot
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To: 9YearLurker

Yes. I was wrong (moving too quickly). I thought the issue was the “on-again/off-again” ability of MA governors to fill congressional seats. The issue of the emergency provision is quite separate and I can’t disagree with the article you cited.


34 posted on 09/25/2009 8:09:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

No problem!


35 posted on 09/25/2009 8:10:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Buckeye McFrog
It is of supreme importance that the people of this great Commonwealth have representation before the United States Senate

We haven't had representation by two senators for over a year and a half. Why the rush now. Don't answer...I already know.

Furthermore....we haven't had TRUE representation in the US Senate for decades.
Wasn't there a war fought over this 'taxation without representation' thingy? Didn't it start in MA? I'm a bit fuzzy on all that old Constitutional type stuff. The glow from my morning 0bama prayer and song session has me all tingly and not thinking clearly.
</sarcasm>

36 posted on 09/25/2009 8:18:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: elizabethgrace
Reporting from Washington - Paul G. Kirk Jr., a longtime friend and advisor to the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), was named Thursday to fill the senator’s seat until a special election can be held in January.

His appointment by Massachusetts’ Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick means another crucial Democratic vote in the Senate at a time when President Obama is pushing for a sweeping overhaul of the health insurance system. Republicans have decried the interim appointment as a Democratic effort to force a healthcare bill through Congress.

Kirk will be sworn in today.

In January, Massachusetts voters will elect a successor to Kennedy, who served for nearly 47 years and succumbed to brain cancer last month. In the meantime, observers said, Kirk can be expected to promote the Kennedy agenda. Kirk served as a Senate aide to Kennedy for nearly a decade and was an informal advisor for many more years.

“He was there fighting for healthcare when Kennedy was there fighting for it,” said Robert Shrum, a longtime Democratic consultant who worked on the presidential campaigns of Kennedy and Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.). “He won’t vote for healthcare because he is a proxy but because he cares about it.”

Kirk, 71, a Harvard-educated attorney and business consultant whose father was an associate justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Court, is a senior fixture in the Democratic Party. He was chairman of the Democratic National Committee from 1985 to 1989, during the failed presidential campaign of former Massachusetts Gov. Michael S. Dukakis. He was the party’s treasurer before that.

He campaigned for the late Robert F. Kennedy during the Democratic presidential primary campaign in 1968, and was persuaded by Ted Kennedy to remain in public service.

“This is a caretaker appointment, a gentle transition, a kind of stewardship,” Kerry said Thursday at the announcement of the appointment at the state Capitol in Boston. “And Paul Kirk will be a superb steward of this seat.”

Kirk also is executor of Kennedy’s will.

Days before he died, Kennedy had called on the governor and state legislative leaders to appoint a successor swiftly. Massachusetts law calls for the replacement to be named by special election, but state lawmakers approved legislation allowing the governor to name an interim senator.

The election for someone to serve the remainder of Kennedy’s term, which lasts through 2012, will be held Jan. 19. Kirk has declared that he will not be a candidate.

Kirk “was a close and loyal advisor and confidant of Sen. Kennedy,” Patrick said. “In the next few weeks he will carry on the work of Sen. Kennedy . . . mindful of his values.”

37 posted on 09/25/2009 8:20:02 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: no dems
Actually the Governor attaching an emergency preamble to a signing is not that uncommon.

The crux is whether declaring an emergency by the governor is contingent or absolute.

38 posted on 09/25/2009 8:22:11 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

The question is whether the Mass Court has venue
when the federal court might be more appropriate.


39 posted on 09/25/2009 8:26:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

It’s completely incestuous.


40 posted on 09/25/2009 8:29:09 AM PDT by elizabethgrace
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To: elizabethgrace
It’s completely incestuous.

Welcome to the slimey, disgusting, corrupt, Dark World of Massachusetts politics.

I hate this frakkin' place. When my kids are out of college, I'm heading for Texas. If they'll have me.

41 posted on 09/25/2009 8:34:30 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

My prayers that your children share your beliefs.


42 posted on 09/25/2009 8:41:11 AM PDT by elizabethgrace
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To: GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

Meanwhile the MA legislature has now moved on to more important things like whether the fluffernutter should be named the state sandwich and Moby-Dick the state novel (Moby was narrowly rejected last year).

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/09/24/lawmakers_nod_could_sweeten_the_day_for_fluffernutter_fans/

Clearly MA is in a state of emergency necessitating Patrick’s flouting of the law huh.

I gotta get some fluff and try me one of those sandwiches.


43 posted on 09/25/2009 8:53:33 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: elizabethgrace

They do. I have installed high quality BS detectors in both my son and daughter. They’ve seen the Liberal indoctrination up close and personal when they were in high school...and laughed at it when they recognized it for what it was. They’ll do ok.


44 posted on 09/25/2009 9:12:31 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Impy

Fluffernutters are *good*. One good thing I’ll say about Massachusetts.

And a fluffernutter would make a much better Senator than Mass. has had for decades.


45 posted on 09/25/2009 9:38:23 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

No surprise, from boston.com:

Breaking News 12:52 PM
Judge rejects GOP bid to block Kirk
Judge Thomas Connolly deliberated for nearly four hours before dismissing the GOP’s claim that Governor Patrick overstepped his authority by declaring an emergency so Paul Kirk Jr.’s appointment to Kennedy’s US Senate seat could be made immediately.


46 posted on 09/25/2009 9:59:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Impy; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; raccoonradio; nutmeg; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; ...

Judge sides with Coupe Deval:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20090925kirk_motion_denied_by_judge/srvc=home&position=recent

Per Channel 7 news, MA State GOP to appeal to MA SJC.


47 posted on 09/25/2009 10:00:25 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yep!

Per Channel 7 news, MA State GOP to appeal to MA SJC. Byron Barnett on site! Yay!!!!!!


48 posted on 09/25/2009 10:02:10 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral)
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To: mgpilot

I *THINK* “ex post facto” only applies to criminal matters.


49 posted on 09/25/2009 10:03:26 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I don’t think they’ve a prayer with the SJC, but at least it’ll make ‘em do a little work for it.


50 posted on 09/25/2009 10:09:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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