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[Every Democrat] Votes Against Measure Allowing Americans To Keep Their Current Health Care
nrsc.org ^ | September 24, 2009

Posted on 09/25/2009 5:49:55 AM PDT by grundle

WASHINGTON – In a vote that should send chills up the spine of those satisfied with their current health insurance, Democrats in the Senate Finance Committee today rejected a Republican amendment that would allow Americans to keep their current health care coverage.

Sponsored by U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the amendment stated that the implementation of the final health care bill would not take place unless the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) was able to certify before Congress that the legislation would not cause more than 1,000,000 Americans to lose their current coverage.

The amendment was rejected 10-13, with all Republican Senators voting in favor and all Democrats voting against.

Notably, the defeat of the Hatch Amendment comes on the same week that the head of the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Douglas Elmendorf, testified before Congress that seniors would see reduced Medicare benefits under the bill currently in the Finance Committee.

It also came on the same day that various media accounts highlighted the Democrats’ defense of the proposed cuts in the popular Medicare Advantage program that so many senior citizens rely upon for their health care.

“It’s inexplicable that the same Democrats who continue to insist that Americans’ current health care coverage will not be affected by the Democrats’ government-run proposal would then turn around and vote against an amendment that would ensure just that,” National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) Amber Wilkerson Marchand said today. “Blanche Lincoln needs to level with her constituents, especially the senior citizens in her state who the head of the CBO said will see deep Medicare cuts in the Democrat proposal: will they get to keep their current health care coverage, and if so, why did she vote against legislation that would ensure such a provision will be included in the final bill?”


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; elmendorf

1 posted on 09/25/2009 5:49:55 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Mister President...YOU LIE!


2 posted on 09/25/2009 5:52:09 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: grundle

R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N


3 posted on 09/25/2009 5:54:16 AM PDT by exnavy (GOD save the republic)
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To: grundle

Democrats are pro-choice only when it involves killing people.


4 posted on 09/25/2009 5:54:50 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: grundle

Fire up the ads, GOP.

I want tape.


5 posted on 09/25/2009 5:55:19 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: grundle

bttt


6 posted on 09/25/2009 5:55:44 AM PDT by petercooper (GOP: Big Tent Party??? Not if you are a CONSERVATIVE.)
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To: grundle

These bastards just did themselves in. VOTE THEM OUT!


7 posted on 09/25/2009 5:56:11 AM PDT by Leg Olam (Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: grundle

That’s not telling...no, no, of course not.


8 posted on 09/25/2009 5:56:40 AM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: grundle

I like the insurance that I have. If it is taken away from me someone is going to pay.


9 posted on 09/25/2009 5:56:52 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

You mean democRATS are for killing innocent babies. They oppose killing murderers and terrorists.


10 posted on 09/25/2009 5:58:53 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: grundle

ANY Democrat will vote against ANY measure that allows Americans to keep ANYTHING.

End of story.


11 posted on 09/25/2009 5:59:02 AM PDT by webschooner (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win -- Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: grundle
Sponsored by U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the amendment stated that the implementation of the final health care bill would not take place unless the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) was able to certify before Congress that the legislation would not cause more than 1,000,000 Americans to lose their current coverage.

Why should anyone be forced to lose their coverage, Senator Hatch? Exactly which side is this guy on?

12 posted on 09/25/2009 5:59:43 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Piquaboy
I like the insurance that I have.

Me too. Mine is a catastrophic policy with a fairly high deductible ($5700 for the wife and myself together) tied to an HSA. If HR3200 passes and is signed into law, my coverage would become illegal.

13 posted on 09/25/2009 6:03:16 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Thermalseeker
NO Hatch’s amendment was to save people's current insurance !
14 posted on 09/25/2009 6:04:24 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: exnavy

“R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N”

I want to man the guillotine.

Anyone who thinks I wouldn’t pull the cord for any of these demo-slimes is fooling themselves.


15 posted on 09/25/2009 6:05:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: grundle

Unlike during Republican majorities, the Democrats cannot let Conservatives have any say in anything they decide must be made into law. That would mean that they have to actually give in to other people’s beliefs not parallel to their own.

Can’t happen!


16 posted on 09/25/2009 6:05:59 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: grundle

2010


17 posted on 09/25/2009 6:06:09 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Thermalseeker
The essence of the con is this: while the legislation will not explicitly drive people into the "public option", the legislation is designed to drive companies out of the health insurance business, so that finally the "public option" will be the only thing left.

After they kill off private health insurance, then the real games start.

18 posted on 09/25/2009 6:06:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: grundle
But, but...the President said we could keep our current health care if we are satisied with it. [/dripping sarcasm]

I guess Representative Joe Wilson hit the nail on the head...in fact the moment he said it, here in Idaho we said..."It's about time!"


19 posted on 09/25/2009 6:08:47 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Piquaboy

“I like the insurance that I have. If it is taken away from me someone is going to pay.”

Good luck with that.

A handful of people are powerless against a corrupt government, and slumbering populace.


20 posted on 09/25/2009 6:09:43 AM PDT by brownsfan (The screen name is a misnomer. Cleveland is STILL without a PRO team.)
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To: brownsfan

I wouldn’t call tea-parties, a million marching on Washington and less than 40% support for current HealthCare legislation a sign of a slumbering populace.
While I wish that EVERYONE were politically aware, we must give credit where credit is due: a sleeping giant HAS been awakened.


21 posted on 09/25/2009 6:11:15 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: grundle

What about our HSA?

I understand that all the Dims’ bills would ‘outlaw’ HSAs.

Say it ain’t so, Joe.


22 posted on 09/25/2009 6:12:43 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: grundle

You can’t keep your existing insurance, because how would the government control you? Thats just nonsense.


23 posted on 09/25/2009 6:12:54 AM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Liberals are terrible at math.)
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To: grundle

Socialism is on the march worldwide, making tremendous strides inside the United States. The foundations for these scumbags have been in place for a long time.

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation” 23.11 “Economic Harmonies” Ch.23 Evil - Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

Barack Obama IS A LIAR.


24 posted on 09/25/2009 6:13:46 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Maverick68

“While I wish that EVERYONE were politically aware, we must give credit where credit is due: a sleeping giant HAS been awakened.”

I remain skeptical. But, we will know in 2010.


25 posted on 09/25/2009 6:14:13 AM PDT by brownsfan (The screen name is a misnomer. Cleveland is STILL without a PRO team.)
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To: Da Coyote
Anyone who thinks I wouldn’t pull the cord for any of these demo-slimes is fooling themselves.

You'll have to fight me for the privelege.
26 posted on 09/25/2009 6:14:15 AM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Liberals are terrible at math.)
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To: grundle

That was a given. The story that “blue dog Democrats” were against, maybe, was a ploy.

They were only teasing, taunting , and tormenting you. A Democrat by any other name is a Democrat.

If you think that what they did now is bad, wait until they get you [us] in the killing room.

Elections have conaequences.


27 posted on 09/25/2009 6:16:38 AM PDT by sport
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To: grundle

It isn’t about health care or health insurance.

It’s about control for the government.

It may also be about setting up a few state-approved health insurance companies as the chosen ones to take the people’s premium money with the force of government covering their backs, but that’s a secondary objective to pay back their friends.


28 posted on 09/25/2009 6:21:46 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: PapaBear3625
The essence of the con is this: while the legislation will not explicitly drive people into the "public option", the legislation is designed to drive companies out of the health insurance business, so that finally the "public option" will be the only thing left.

Yep and they're playing both ends against the middle. Driving the health insurers out of business will be accomplished because the bill it puts huge financial burdens on business owners who would be forced to insure employees with insurance policies that meet gubmint requirements or pay a hefty fine. The idea here is to get business' to dump their private insurance and force their employees onto the "public option." The result will be the failure of the private insurance providers.

As far as HR3200 and HSA's, the language contained on pages 26-30, Section 122, defines what is "acceptable" coverage. The language contained in this section of the bill makes health plans in which individuals pay for routine services, but carry insurance only for catastrophic events, (such as Health Savings Accounts) illegal.

29 posted on 09/25/2009 6:25:53 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: ncalburt
NO Hatch’s amendment was to save people's current insurance !

Um, except for the ONE MILLION PEOPLE in Hatch's amendment that would be "allowed" to lose their coverage! Read the article.

30 posted on 09/25/2009 6:27:49 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: savedbygrace
What about our HSA?

See post 29. HSA's are outlawed according to language contained in HR3200, pages 26-30.

31 posted on 09/25/2009 6:30:21 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Da Coyote
I want to man the guillotine.

When TSHTF, in honor of family tradition, I wish to carry a BAR just as my dad did in 1944 when he fought against another socialist/fascist dictator.

32 posted on 09/25/2009 6:30:23 AM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Doogle

912-2010


33 posted on 09/25/2009 6:35:55 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (The trouble with trouble is it starts out as Utopia)
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To: grundle

PLEASE PEOPLE

BOMBARD DRUDGE WITH THIS>>>>

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 09/25/2009 6:40:54 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Da Coyote
I'll post security for you!!!

Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em.

35 posted on 09/25/2009 7:02:28 AM PDT by exnavy (GOD save the republic)
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To: Da Coyote

GREEN too !!!! No lead involved and we can turn them into fertilizer .


36 posted on 09/25/2009 7:07:13 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: exnavy

What can we do to make this viral at FReepers???


37 posted on 09/25/2009 7:07:17 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Halgr

Keep expressing your opinion.


38 posted on 09/25/2009 7:09:23 AM PDT by exnavy (GOD save the republic)
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To: Thermalseeker

And that alone makes Obama a liar.


39 posted on 09/25/2009 7:22:29 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: grundle

Wilson more right than many, many people will openly acknowledge.....


40 posted on 09/25/2009 7:50:47 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Thermalseeker

Hatch doesn’t want anyone to lose their current insurance. Instead, he wanted to expose the fact that Obama’s plan would cause at least one million people to lose their current insurance.


41 posted on 09/25/2009 8:30:22 AM PDT by grundle
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To: exnavy

I can’t understand why FReepers are not making this viral even on their own site.


42 posted on 09/25/2009 9:36:23 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: grundle

BTTT


43 posted on 09/25/2009 10:18:06 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: grundle
I'm running out of room for my particular choice of personal insurance...


44 posted on 09/25/2009 10:30:47 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: grundle
Hatch doesn’t want anyone to lose their current insurance. Instead, he wanted to expose the fact that Obama’s plan would cause at least one million people to lose their current insurance.

Really? What if Hatch's amendment had passed? Maybe it's a legislative trick or some sort of an ill conceived parliamentary move, but your logic regarding this doesn't make sense at all.

If Hatch wanted to expose Obamalamadingdong's lies he should have offered an amendment that states that absolutely no one will lose their current coverage if the bill is passed. Offering an amendment to proposed legislation that caps insurance policy losses at 1 million people makes it appear that Hatch is going along with the Obama plan, not fighting it. Hatch is playing games with peoples lives and it's right there in his amendment for all to see....

45 posted on 09/26/2009 6:12:41 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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