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Recall petition filed against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 09.23.2009 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 09/24/2009 1:24:07 AM PDT by Suz in AZ

A recall petition filed Tuesday against a member of Congress could end up being a test case for whether Arizonans have the power to dump federal lawmakers. Tucsonan Thomas D. Young is seeking the ouster of two-term Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, citing her support of federal legislation requiring increased use of electricity generated from renewable sources and new carbon emission standards for coal-fired power plants. Young complained those standards will raise the cost of materials by more than 30 percent.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; congress; democrats; giffords; recall
A recall petition filed Tuesday against a member of Congress could end up being a test case for whether Arizonans have the power to dump federal lawmakers. Tucsonan Thomas D. Young is seeking the ouster of two-term Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, citing her support of federal legislation requiring increased use of electricity generated from renewable sources and new carbon emission standards for coal-fired power plants. Young complained those standards will raise the cost of materials by more than 30 percent. ....
1 posted on 09/24/2009 1:24:09 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: Suz in AZ

It doesn’t state her party affiliation. She must be a dem.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 1:31:07 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: Jemian

Yep.


3 posted on 09/24/2009 1:33:02 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: Suz in AZ

Petition? She’s worse than awful but I don’t see a petition in the Constitution. Will a note from a teacher work?


4 posted on 09/24/2009 1:33:21 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

The morns elected here .. the “note” from the teacher is called the “election’ process. Maybe the stupid electorate will get it right next time

Reminds me of all those eltitist Inty leckchual, moderates ... Obama .. howzatwokin out forya


5 posted on 09/24/2009 1:38:04 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Suz in AZ

Unconstitutional. You cannot recall a federally elected official.


6 posted on 09/24/2009 2:28:52 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Suz in AZ; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 09/24/2009 2:55:16 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


8 posted on 09/24/2009 3:00:56 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: Suz in AZ

Johnny Mac had people working on his recall prior to 911.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 3:18:57 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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To: Jemian

She is a Blue Dog which means she is fundamentally dishonest.


10 posted on 09/24/2009 3:23:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: mazda77

I can think of a few Senators I’d like to chus.


11 posted on 09/24/2009 3:38:12 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: steelyourfaith

I would like to see this recall thing rolling on about 3/4 of the congress critters. Let them know they are OUR employees, not the entitled elites they think they are.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 3:51:28 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: eCSMaster

I double checked the spelling and it is on archive that way.


13 posted on 09/24/2009 4:04:34 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: mazda77
Don't you know that Zer0 excised those parts from the Constitution?

Seriously, I'm glad someone actually decided to quote the pertinent parts of the Constitution before spewing clap-trap about how Federal officials are exempt. That's exactly what they think.

14 posted on 09/24/2009 4:52:13 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Arizona constitution allows recall. Since she “represents” the people of a district in ARIZONA, then they can recall her since it is allowed in OUR constitution. States still do have rights you know, it’s written in the other constitution.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 4:57:37 AM PDT by McGavin999 (How's that change old Hopey Dope promised you working out?)
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To: Vigilanteman; Suz in AZ; fieldmarshaldj

http://www.votejessekelly.com/

This is an option.


16 posted on 09/24/2009 5:33:52 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Jemian
"She must be a dem"

Worse than that, she is a ex-republican.

17 posted on 09/24/2009 5:51:48 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Suz in AZ

Who is dumber, Boxer, or Giffords?

I can’t decide.


18 posted on 09/24/2009 6:10:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: MountainWoman; kstewskis; AZ .44 MAG; sasafras

Ping.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 6:56:47 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: McGavin999; AuH2ORepublican
States have rights insofar as it doesn't interfere with the federal. You can recall state officials, but since the U.S. Constitution existed nearly 140 years before AZ statehood, that would tend to trump anything AZ permits. You want to try to recall her, be my guest, but a federal judge will likely halt any such measure as being impermissable with respect to a federal officeholder. Only the Congress themselves are empowered to remove/expell/unseat its own members.
20 posted on 09/24/2009 6:57:18 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Unconstitutional. You cannot recall a federally elected official.

That thing don't matter no more, doncha know!

21 posted on 09/24/2009 7:00:09 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

She signed a promise to step down if recalled when she was first elected. It has no legal force, just like the recall effort, but it will be a stake in the heart of her incumbency if she goes back on her word.


22 posted on 09/24/2009 7:03:37 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: Suz in AZ
Sorry folks.

There's no "recall" provision in the Constitution. If she was legitimately elected, you have to live with her for the duration of her term.

Once again: ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!

23 posted on 09/24/2009 7:05:56 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Suz in AZ

No wonder her most recent fundraiser was held in Delaware...........


24 posted on 09/24/2009 7:09:10 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort)
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To: lonestar
Heh. Well, they'll say it's OK to screw Republicans, but Democrats enjoy extra-Constitutional protections.
25 posted on 09/24/2009 7:09:45 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Democrat promises is for suckers.

26 posted on 09/24/2009 7:10:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

True, that.

Jesse Kelly is our best shot at getting her out of there.


27 posted on 09/24/2009 7:13:44 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: TChris

10th ammendment; because if it is not expressed in the Constitution it goes back to the state to decide.

Say what the naysyers want but I support the people of my adopted home district and will be watching to see the outcome. If someone tells me I can’t do it just because they said so, I do everything within the means of my capabiities to see them eat their words.

Just a little rubbed off from our founders.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:09 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: mazda77
10th ammendment; because if it is not expressed in the Constitution it goes back to the state to decide.

Not quite, but nice try.

It's a federal office. The state can't make rules controlling a federal office or election.

29 posted on 09/24/2009 7:21:12 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Even had AZ been a state prior to the adoption of the U.S. Constitution, it still wouldn’t be able to recall members of Congress. As you mentioned, Article I is very specific as to the qualifications and election of U.S. Representatives, and only the House itself may expel a member (by a 2/3 vote).


30 posted on 09/24/2009 7:44:29 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: Borax Queen

Thanks for the ping.

Hopefully this will prompt her to keep her promise to step down if she loses a recall vote.

Yeah, right. Dream on, .44. She’s a politician.


31 posted on 09/24/2009 8:54:13 AM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: AZ .44 MAG; Old Flat Toad

You’re welcome, .44! I love how Karamargin, former Red Star staffer turned Giffords staffer, is already proclaiming her queen for life... (well, ya know...)

Mr. Flat Toad — Sorry, I forgot to ping you the first time.


32 posted on 09/24/2009 9:00:26 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: HiramQuick

Seems like this recall petition should be signed, maybe, the first week in November, 2010? At the AZ polling place perhaps?

Not all conservative/right-wing/activists are “right” ....


33 posted on 09/24/2009 9:01:14 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Suz in AZ
... a test case for whether Arizonans have the power to dump federal lawmakers.

They don't. Not until November 2, 2010.

34 posted on 09/24/2009 9:03:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: McGavin999
Arizona constitution allows recall.

Article 8, Part 1, Section 1: "Every public officer in the state of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by election or appointment, is subject to recall from such office by the qualified electors of the electoral district from which candidates are elected to such office."

Congressmen are not state officers.

35 posted on 09/24/2009 9:06:58 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

You and I are on the same page.


36 posted on 09/24/2009 10:00:31 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: HiramQuick

..you and I are on the same page...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Ditto here...

However, I am getting a little ‘tired’ of seeing this thing coming around stating that in 2010 1/3 of the Senate and the entire House of Rep are up for re-election.
We have been having elections every 2 years for a century or two—may have been harder to ‘oust’ Senators up to 1913 or so, seeing as they were appointed but the premise remains the same—If you didn’t like the state people appointing Senators, vote them out.....


37 posted on 09/24/2009 10:15:07 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 )VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT)
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To: xrmusn

I’ve never been convinced that the 17th ammendment was the right thing to do .... long before my time though, although at times I feel that old (pass the geritol my friend)

We have created a situation with additional thanks to that insane campaign finance reform (aka McWorthless and Meingold) tht made it even harder financially to un seat an incumbent senator. it was a career enhancing reform for those already elected. War chest are huge and daunting.

But... perhaps somthing will happen 2010. Optimist, but as I am always and daily taught in the finance world, SEC dictates I say it ...past performance is not guarantee of future


38 posted on 09/24/2009 12:55:24 PM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: CPT Clay

http://www.gossforcongress.com/
and another


39 posted on 09/24/2009 7:06:52 PM PDT by mbowen1060
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