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A Secret White House Power Grab Is In Full Swing
FoxNews.com ^ | September 23, 2009 | Phil Kerpen

Posted on 09/23/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by Man50D

Cap-and-trade energy tax legislation appears stalled, at least for now, in the U.S. Senate. But that doesn’t mean the cap-and-trade energy tax isn’t imminent.

Senate Environment Committee Chairwoman Barbara Boxer hasn’t even introduced the bill yet; new Senate Agriculture Committee Chairwoman Blanche Lincoln has declared the House bill dead on arrival; and there are several other cross-cutting controversies that divide Democrats on the bill. The Obama administration is unfazed. They are moving full steam ahead with an even more costly regulatory scheme in the name of global warming—shoehorning the regulation of greenhouse gases into the 1970 Clean Air Act, a bill passed before anyone had ever thought of global warming and that couldn’t be less suited to the task.

Driving the push for this massive power grab and circumvention of the elected branches is a key White House official who avoided Senate confirmation by being installed not as EPA director, but instead as White House Climate Czar: Carol Browner.

Long before the Supreme Court ruled in a highly questionable 2007 case, Massachusetts v. EPA, that the EPA has the legal authority to justify its proposed 18,000 pages of greenhouse gas regulation under the Clean Air Act, Browner (then EPA director under President Bill Clinton) had her general counsel, Jonathan Cannon, prepare a now-infamous memorandum arguing—for the first time—that the EPA possessed such a power. At the time it was dismissed as a wild-eyed overreach that Congress would never allow. Now it’s happening, and Browner is right at the center of it.

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KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoczars; bhofascism; bhotreason; bhotyranny; capandtax; capandtrade; communism; corruption; czar; democratcorruption; democrats; donttreadonme; economy; energy; energytax; epa; globalwarming; liberalfascism; obama; regulatoryczar; socialism; taxes

1 posted on 09/23/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Can this adminsitration get any sleazier? What a curse has befallen this country!


2 posted on 09/23/2009 9:18:52 AM PDT by Commander X (Hey Barry, what are you hiding?)
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To: Man50D
Barack Obama is a man determined to socialize America.

He has apparently studied the fall of the Weimar Republic and the collapse of the Roman Republic.

He is apparently bent upon something never foreseen by the Founding Fathers - governing by extra-constitutional means.

Several of the preceding Presidents have done this in small increments, but from tiny ACORNS, a malignant growth can appear when unsupervised by a vigilant public.

3 posted on 09/23/2009 9:19:38 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Man50D
Of course what cannot be legislated can be litigated then regulated. This not only applies to Cap and Tax but to ObamaCare.
4 posted on 09/23/2009 9:19:51 AM PDT by buckalfa (confused and bewildered)
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To: Man50D

This is actually waaaaay more important than what is going on in NY at the UN, imho.


5 posted on 09/23/2009 9:24:19 AM PDT by khnyny (At least in the US we give our idiots an education, a suit and a speech writer)
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To: ZULU

We need to contact Hondouras for aide. Or maybe it’s time for me to move to a country that holds the rule of law in such high esteem.


6 posted on 09/23/2009 9:24:39 AM PDT by Post5203 (0bama is the Jim Jones of the new millennium.)
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To: Commander X

If you haven’t done it yet, I would encourage everyone to read Michelle Malkin’s “Culture of Corruption”. Its unreal how evil this government is.


7 posted on 09/23/2009 9:25:06 AM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Liberals are terrible at math.)
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To: Man50D

>“We put nothing in writing, ever,” Nichols said.

That way there’s no legal wrangling over what the “contract” is... you simply get to redefine it as you go along to suit your needs. This reminds me of the response Obama gave to a definition from the dictionary.

BLOAT, people, BLOAT!


8 posted on 09/23/2009 9:28:22 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Man50D

Barack Obama will be needing to kill a lot of us soon. The revolt — outright revolution — is very imminent.


9 posted on 09/23/2009 9:32:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Post5203

If it is ever proved that Mr. Obama is a naturalized citizen, and not a natural born one, and he refuses to vacate office, I would hope the American military would emulate Honduras’.


10 posted on 09/23/2009 9:32:50 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Man50D

Mark Lloyd Diversity Czar:
“There’s nothing more difficult than this because we have really truly, good, white people in important positions, and the fact of the matter is that there are a limited number of those positions,” he said.

“And unless we are conscious of the need to have more people of color, gays, other people in those positions, we will not change the problem. But we’re in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power.”

White people are in the cross hairs, they are the target. Will Whites stand and get shot or fight back?


11 posted on 09/23/2009 9:32:57 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Man50D

Overturn Wickard v Filburn.


12 posted on 09/23/2009 9:34:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Commander X

The Stalinist mentality in the far left is just astounding. They want to control everyone, regulate everything, dictate how we live our lives, and make all decisions regardless of the will of the people and our elected representatives. They think they’re smarter and more knowledgeable than conservatives, when ironically the opposite is true. These extreme leftists have no ability to objectively analyze an issue life global warming theory and no interest in objective analysis. All they want to do is force their warped view of the issues on everyone whether we agree or not. The GOP needs to make a major push on this theme of autocratic dictatorial behavior by the far left (including Pelosi, Reid, Waxman, and Boxer), and push hard to retake control of the House in 2010.


13 posted on 09/23/2009 9:34:47 AM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: tacticalogic

Exactly!


14 posted on 09/23/2009 9:37:23 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Commander X
For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged.

Prov 28:2
15 posted on 09/23/2009 9:39:21 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Man50D

I hope the next interim election in the US send the signal to these people that Americans have had enough of this rail road approach to ‘change’.

Actually, if the changes you want are so noxious, radical, demonstrably inconsistent with the Constitution and alien to American sensibilities that you have to literally FORCE them on fully 50% of the population... isn’t it time to rethink?

Just a logical question I have about the unparalleled and furtive subterfuge which is passing for a Presidential Administration right now. There is something VERY wrong with this picture.


16 posted on 09/23/2009 9:39:22 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Commander X
Can this adminsitration get any sleazier? What a curse has befallen this country!

Sadly, it isn't a curse that befell this country. I was loony, brain dead leftists, and the conservatives sitting out the election that gave us the dark days that are upon us. God help us.

17 posted on 09/23/2009 9:39:25 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Man50D

How to circumvent the proxcess in three easy steps. These people need to be brought up on hcarges. Impeachment proceedings some time next year.


18 posted on 09/23/2009 9:39:35 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Man50D

I keep hoping that the crazier and farther left this Admin pushes, the center will move right. Our corrupt politicians can’t possibly like the idea of a single buddy of the Pres having all that money and power....it makes lobbyists coming to them for favors all but a waste.


19 posted on 09/23/2009 9:40:53 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Two brave people did what thousands couldn't do to acorn.....bless you both!)
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To: Commander X
Elections have consequences....

It's Time to Part Company

Gen Petreaus:....lead by example as demonstrated elsewhere...

20 posted on 09/23/2009 9:42:50 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: ZULU

No, Obama wants to destroy America. He wants America to be another 3rd world nation with he, Obama, the dictator to be in charge. Wake-up Americans.


21 posted on 09/23/2009 9:48:03 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: Man50D

Secret? What’s so secret?

Obama has got to go...our safety and lives depend upon it.


22 posted on 09/23/2009 9:48:33 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Man50D
Secret?

Well, I suppose if you're Charles Gibson, or one of the 13 people that get their news exclusively from the Fringe Media, it's secret.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

23 posted on 09/23/2009 9:48:39 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Lazamataz
Barack Obama will be needing to kill a lot of us soon. The revolt — outright revolution — is very imminent.

You have it backwards. The purpose of a revolution is to fundamentally change the rule of law. The revolution has been occurring in the U.S. for decades and accelerated by BO and his fellow socialists against the Constitution. The people are seeking to stop the revolution by defending and reverting back to the Constitution.
24 posted on 09/23/2009 9:50:05 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

We need a taxpayer revolution. Starve the beast to death.


25 posted on 09/23/2009 9:50:55 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: B.O. Plenty

We either part company or sooner or later there will be a civil war and we will end up parting company anyway. The divide is too great, the hatred too great, the cultural division too great. It’s time.


26 posted on 09/23/2009 9:51:42 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I keep hoping that the crazier and farther left this Admin pushes, the center will move right.

My husbands secretary watches ABC. No one can talk to her about anything. She didn't even believe Obomas middle name was "Hussein." She said no one would have voted for him if that were true. I kid you not. My husband proved to her it was really true.

Yesterday, she heard the Oboma administration wanted to fine people thousands of dollars for not buying health insurance like they want. She was appalled. She said the government has no right to do that.
Well, madam secretary, welcome to the real world. She hasn't heard anything yet. That was an eye opener for her, and now she's much more interested in what other people have to tell her - like my conservative husband. Give him time, and she'll be showing up at our tea parties, too.

27 posted on 09/23/2009 9:54:02 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Send her this article.


28 posted on 09/23/2009 10:01:08 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: Man50D

This should bring a lawsuit. Can we swing Kennedy back the other way?


29 posted on 09/23/2009 10:01:53 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find! - I am Joe Wilson.)
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To: mulligan
He wants America to be another 3rd world nation with he, Obama, the dictator to be in charge. Wake-up Americans.

I agree this is what HE has planned, but the only people who will side with him on this are the community organized and the far left radical extremists. I believe there are more democrats, moderates, and patriots in this country than Oboma realizes. I think he's so in love with himself, he doesn't realize the tide is turning against him. He still believes he is loved and adored by the masses, because HE has come as the savior of the world. Because of that, he's going to go full force into his agenda. Because of that, Americans are going to rebell.

Americans don't want to be community organized. They'd rather be free and do things for themselves.

30 posted on 09/23/2009 10:03:27 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Commander X

Deuteronomy 28 (New International Version)

Deuteronomy 28
Blessings for Obedience
1 If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come upon you and accompany you if you obey the LORD your God:

3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.

4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.

6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.

7 The LORD will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.

8 The LORD will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The LORD your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.

9 The LORD will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the LORD your God and walk in his ways. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the LORD, and they will fear you. 11 The LORD will grant you abundant prosperity—in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground—in the land he swore to your forefathers to give you.

12 The LORD will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. 13 The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom. 14 Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.
Curses for Disobedience
15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.

17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.

18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

20 The LORD will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him. [a] 21 The LORD will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The LORD will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The LORD will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.

25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth.

26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and there will be no one to frighten them away.

27 The LORD will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured.

28 The LORD will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind.

29 At midday you will grope about like a blind man in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you.

30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and ravish her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit.

31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them.

32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand.

33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The LORD will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.

36 The LORD will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your fathers. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror and an object of scorn and ridicule to all the nations where the LORD will drive you.

38 You will sow much seed in the field but you will harvest little, because locusts will devour it. 39 You will plant vineyards and cultivate them but you will not drink the wine or gather the grapes, because worms will eat them.

40 You will have olive trees throughout your country but you will not use the oil, because the olives will drop off.

41 You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity.

42 Swarms of locusts will take over all your trees and the crops of your land.

43 The alien who lives among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 He will lend to you, but you will not lend to him. He will be the head, but you will be the tail.

45 All these curses will come upon you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the LORD your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you.

46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever.

47 Because you did not serve the LORD your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity,

48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the LORD sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.

49 The LORD will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the LORD your God is giving you.

53 Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For she intends to eat them secretly during the siege and in the distress that your enemy will inflict on you in your cities.

58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the LORD your God- 59 the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring upon you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The LORD will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the LORD your God. 63 Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.

64 Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the LORD will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”-because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.


31 posted on 09/23/2009 10:05:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: concerned about politics

It is astounding that she can do whatever work she does for your husband and truly be that stupid...I’m sorry but how could any hearing individual NOT KNOW his name was Hussein?


32 posted on 09/23/2009 10:09:09 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Two brave people did what thousands couldn't do to acorn.....bless you both!)
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To: Man50D
Left unchecked, Browner will move beyond automobiles to EPA’s entire staggering 18,000-page blueprint for regulating the U.S. economy.

Carol Browner, the unaccountable, unconfirmed White House Climate Czar is a radical NWO communist that must be stopped.

Since leaving the Clinton administration she has moved further left, even becoming one of the 14 members of the “Socialist International Commission for a Sustainable World Society” on whose Web site she was listed as a member as recently as January 5, the day she was named White House Climate Czar.

This Commission pursues a clearly socialist agenda of centralized control under a regime of "global governance" that would enforce extreme environmental political correctness on a global basis.

33 posted on 09/23/2009 10:48:30 AM PDT by kara2008 (The Answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: Man50D
Does anyone know when the vote for the below amendment to the dept. of Interior appropriations bill is scheduled?

Fortunately, we’ll be able to see this week where members of the U.S. Senate stand on allowing Carol Browner to direct taxpayer dollars and pursue vast new regulatory power grabs.

Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana has introduced an amendment (SA 2440) to the Department of the Interior appropriations bill that prohibits any federal funding for Browner’s policy directives.

Any senator who votes against it is voting to support not just Carol Browner, but also her vast regulatory power grab and the president’s system of unaccountable czars.

34 posted on 09/23/2009 10:53:49 AM PDT by kara2008 (The Answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: Man50D

Guaranteeing the Repubs retake the House in 2010 and grab four more Senate seats. Just wait until people see their energy bills triple.


35 posted on 09/23/2009 10:56:59 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Man50D

Was it this bad under Carter? I don’t remember - wasn’t paying much attention during those years.


36 posted on 09/23/2009 11:05:56 AM PDT by BAW (Obama lies and lies and lies)
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To: ZULU
Several of the preceding Presidents have done this in small increments, but from tiny ACORNS, a malignant growth can appear when unsupervised by a vigilant public.

Not always such little increments. DHS was created by GW's Executive Order 13228 of October 8, 2001. 'Dial 1 for English, etc' was instituted by Clinton's EO 13166 of August 11, 2000, which GW let stand when he took office.

AND ... More culpable are the one hundred senators, 435 congressmen, and nine Supreme Court justices (minus a handful). They are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country - dereliction of their constitutional duty. The political elite have set it up so that the two main parties have morphed into two side of one coin.
37 posted on 09/23/2009 11:08:16 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Man50D

SECRET???? We’ve known all along.


38 posted on 09/23/2009 11:14:16 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: your local physicist

You are correct.

I am amazed at the lengths they will go to “Change” America.


39 posted on 09/23/2009 11:18:35 AM PDT by azkathy (Branded by the Rodeo Chediski Fire)
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To: azkathy

bump


40 posted on 09/23/2009 11:43:00 AM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: Man50D
"The result? The result you can see -- most of the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society. "
---Yuri Bezmenov, KGB Defector
 
Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
1984 | Edward Griffin and Yuri Bezmenov
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2095202/posts


41 posted on 09/23/2009 11:51:27 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Man50D
Driving the push for this massive power grab and circumvention of the elected branches is a key White House official who avoided Senate confirmation by being installed not as EPA director, but instead as White House Climate Czar: Carol Browner.

America, we are in the fight for our lives, and we're only 8 months into this leftist insanity.

42 posted on 09/23/2009 12:23:29 PM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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To: Man50D

In the mind of the left they have a mandate. To them 50% +1 vote gives them the right to dictate to the rest of us. They see this country as a majoritarian democracy, we still think it’s a republic..


43 posted on 09/23/2009 6:12:16 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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