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Sr House Dems Request Probe Into Bills To Halt Acorn Funding
The Wall Street Journal ^ | September 22, 2009 | Anonymous

Posted on 09/22/2009 1:23:18 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion

WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--Two top House Democrats requested Tuesday that the Congressional Research Service conduct an analysis into whether recent legislation to strip federal funds from community-organizing group Acorn is unconstitutional.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., ...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acorn; barneyfrank; berthalewis; conyers; corruption; democrats; frank; johnconyers; obama; whitehouse
Nadler came up with this canard on the weekend and Geraldo Revera repeated it several times on his idiot show. They are claiming that the funding cutoff would be a bill of attainder. Isn't funding for them also a bill of attainder?
1 posted on 09/22/2009 1:23:18 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Where in the constitution does it say we are required to subsidize ACORN?


2 posted on 09/22/2009 1:24:38 PM PDT by arista
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Cutting off funds to an organization that is full of crooks is against the Constitution? Amazing!


3 posted on 09/22/2009 1:25:54 PM PDT by RC2
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Now this is almost funny. The only time Dems worry about whether any of their legislation is “unconstitutional” is when it threatens one of their favored crony organizations.


4 posted on 09/22/2009 1:25:56 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Can we trade in the clunker we have in the White House?)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Nadler better be real careful about this. There are about a hundred Federal statutes that call for crooked Contractors to be barred for a period of years or even life from doing business with the Federal Government.

Are those Bills of Attainder, too?

5 posted on 09/22/2009 1:28:06 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

If these Dems want to keep the ACORN scandal front and center then so be it.


6 posted on 09/22/2009 1:28:55 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

If these Dems want to keep the ACORN scandal front and center then so be it.


7 posted on 09/22/2009 1:29:03 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
According to these socialist bastards, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL not to fund private criminal organizations involved in fraud and child prostitution.

Not enough bad stuff can happen to these people.

8 posted on 09/22/2009 1:30:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Wait for it...we haven’t heard the end of the ACORN scandal or videos.


9 posted on 09/22/2009 1:35:20 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: arista

Gawd are the Dums Dumb. Congress can give money and congress can take it away.


10 posted on 09/22/2009 1:39:46 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Who WORTE the bills in place now, who WROTE the ones that were up for passage? Whomever WROTE them should be investigated. As usual, the wrong people will be on the right side of the microphone. Stupid hearings.


11 posted on 09/22/2009 1:42:38 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Peace, Love and Insecurity @ http://www.thepatriotsflag.com/)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The CRS actually does good unbiased work when given a specific assignment. Barney and company may not like the answer CRS ultimately gives them.


12 posted on 09/22/2009 1:42:44 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
...whether recent legislation to strip federal funds from community-organizing group Acorn is unconstitutional.

*snort* So, Dims, what is this "constitution" of which you speak? (cue crickets chirping)

13 posted on 09/22/2009 1:47:13 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin can see the left's heads explode from her house!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Reading this, this is how wars start...unfortunately words only go so far. To removed this scum, blood might need to be shed...


14 posted on 09/22/2009 1:52:30 PM PDT by Fedupwithit (The Constitution was written with a pen, and it was enforced with a gun. No one listens to a pen.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
So the corrupt 'Rat Party is in collusion with the corrupt ACORN. This becomes an organized crime racket---literally!

Racket..."A scheme for getting money or other benefits by fraud, intimidation or other illegitimate means"...{Websters Dictionary}

15 posted on 09/22/2009 1:53:04 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

In the history of the United States, only six federal legislative enactments have ever been declared unconstitutional as bills of attainder. The last one was in December 2003, when the Elizabeth Morgan Act (which was added as a rider on a major transportation bill by Republican Rep. Thomas M. Davis of Virginia) was invalidated as a bill of attainder by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, costing the federal government about $1 million in attorney’s fees. You want to know what’s funny? Both John Conyers and Barney Frank voted for the bill.


16 posted on 09/22/2009 1:57:55 PM PDT by Bitter Bierce
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I couldn’t believe Rivera was trumpeting this claim which Ann Coulter dismissed saying where in the constitution does it say we should fund ACORN. I didn’t think he came up with it on his own. Let them keep ACORN front and center.


17 posted on 09/22/2009 1:59:06 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

The states should also investigate, ban and block ACORN from any funding. It will not work in blue states but other states they should hopefully get something passed. It will not stop Fed money.

James and Hannah have more tapes.


18 posted on 09/22/2009 2:02:07 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

Exactly. ACORN has no vested Constitutional or statutory right to continue to receive federal funds from Congress. Congress can decide whether to appropriate or not to appropriate funds to any entity at any time and for any reason (or for no reason).


19 posted on 09/22/2009 2:04:49 PM PDT by Bitter Bierce
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To: arista
Where in the constitution does it say we are required to subsidize ACORN?

I found it right below the section on Abortion and Tax Payer funded Health Care.
20 posted on 09/22/2009 2:05:39 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: arista

where does it allow the fedgov to provide health care?


21 posted on 09/22/2009 2:07:47 PM PDT by wny
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Finally, somebody in Congress asks if something is Constitutional, and it had to be this.

Tar and feathers is too good for them.

22 posted on 09/22/2009 2:16:15 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

It’s not even a close call. In Cummings v. Missouri, 71 U.S. 277 (1867), the U.S. Supreme Court defined a bill of attainder as follows: “A bill of attainder is a legislative act which inflicts punishment without judicial trial and includes any legislative act which takes away the life, liberty or property of a particular named or easily ascertainable person or group of persons because the legislature thinks them guilty of conduct which deserves punishment.”

Defunding ACORN does not “take away” its life, liberty or property, because ACORN has no vested right to the continuation of Congressional funding.


23 posted on 09/22/2009 2:17:28 PM PDT by Bitter Bierce
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To: arista
Where in the constitution does it say we are required to subsidize ACORN?

We have a wise latina to correct that.

24 posted on 09/22/2009 2:35:08 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Idiotcracy has arrived 400 years early.)
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To: tflabo

To paraphrase Dear Leader, “the fact you had to use a dictionary indicates you’re stretching things now.”


25 posted on 09/22/2009 2:37:13 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Bitter Bierce
You want to know what’s funny? Both John Conyers and Barney Frank voted for the bill.

And you know what else is ironic, the 90% tax on the AIG bonuses can be clearly viewed as a Bill of Retainer. Do you want me to tell you how Conyers and Frank voted?

26 posted on 09/22/2009 2:43:59 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (Proud Member of the DHS radical list since Jan 20, 2009)
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To: Bitter Bierce
Congress can decide whether to appropriate or not to appropriate funds to any entity at any time and for any reason (or for no reason).

I will take a point here with you and say that Congress only has enumerated powers on its ability to spend money. But I understand the point you are making in regards to the subject of this post and it is a good point.

27 posted on 09/22/2009 2:47:58 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (Proud Member of the DHS radical list since Jan 20, 2009)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; altair; stephenjohnbanker; youturn; little jeremiah; ~Kim4VRWC's~; voteNRA; ...
ACORN Ping!

FReep mail me if you want on/off the list.


28 posted on 09/22/2009 3:09:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: 11th Commandment
I will take a point here with you and say that Congress only has enumerated powers on its ability to spend money.

You're right, I neglected to mention that Congress is subject to the Constitutional limits on its spending power. Of course, my position is that those limits have nothing whatsoever to do with the ACORN situation.

29 posted on 09/22/2009 3:28:03 PM PDT by Bitter Bierce
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To: 11th Commandment

And don’t forget the Palm Sunday Compromise in the case of Terri Schiavo.


30 posted on 09/22/2009 3:32:20 PM PDT by Bitter Bierce
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Of course the libs are correct: The Constitution is what we say it is.


31 posted on 09/22/2009 5:12:18 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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