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Parent upset by film shown in daughter's class... (daughter scared from viewing "Fitna")
WHAS11 ^ | 9-22-09 | AP

Posted on 09/22/2009 11:53:04 AM PDT by AngryCapitalist

SOMERSET, Ky. (AP) -- A Somerset parent is upset because of a short film shown to his daughter's class at Pulaski County High School.

Bill Cruey told WYMT-TV in Hazard the film "Fitna" blamed the Islam religion for the 9-11 attacks on the United States. The film was shown on Sept. 11.

Cruey said his daughter is receiving counseling and has been pulled from the class after seeing images of beheadings, children being injured and dead bodies interspersed with readings from the Koran.

The film is by Dutch anti-immigration lawmaker Geert Wilders.

Pulaski County Superintendent Tim Eaton says the presentation was meant to commemorate 9-11 and discuss the dangers of extremism, but that the teacher used poor judgment showing the film. He said the matter has been dealt with, but declined to say whether the teacher was disciplined.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
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Another panty-waisted parent plays right into the hands of the islamo-nazis.
1 posted on 09/22/2009 11:53:04 AM PDT by AngryCapitalist
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To: AngryCapitalist

I wouldn’t want my kids to see “images of beheadings, children being injured and dead bodies” either.


2 posted on 09/22/2009 11:54:58 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: AngryCapitalist
what year was the class?

parents hsould have been told that their kids would see such graphic images and they should have had the option not to watch.

3 posted on 09/22/2009 11:55:43 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: AngryCapitalist

It sounds almost as bad as watching TV. lol.

Its because it blames Muslims for the Muslim violence


4 posted on 09/22/2009 11:56:03 AM PDT by GeronL (Are you one of those "individual responsibility" people?)
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To: al_c

Do your kids watch TV?

The reason is because Fitna shows Muslim terror for what it is.


5 posted on 09/22/2009 11:56:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Are you one of those "individual responsibility" people?)
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To: AngryCapitalist

“Cruey said his daughter is receiving counseling and has been pulled from the class after seeing images of beheadings, children being injured and dead bodies interspersed with readings from the Koran. “

Instead oc sending her to a stupid shrink she should have just swatted her on the backside!


6 posted on 09/22/2009 11:56:48 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: AngryCapitalist

Your headline refers to “Fatima” and the body of the article to “Fitna.” Which is it?


7 posted on 09/22/2009 11:57:30 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Magic number = 6)
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To: al_c

This is a High School.

Back when...they showed us carnage like that so we wouldn’t drink and drive or smoke pot...


8 posted on 09/22/2009 11:57:57 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: AngryCapitalist
Your comment attached to the headline says "Fatima".

Article says "Fitna".

which is correct?

9 posted on 09/22/2009 11:58:23 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: AngryCapitalist

Some kids just can’t handle seeing stuff like that and others can.

If they showed a guy being beheaded to my daughter she would probably paint the kid in front of her with her lunch. My son on the other hand would most likely critique the man’s choice in knives and technique.

Either way I would be p*ssed if they showed it too without warning.


10 posted on 09/22/2009 11:59:14 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: AngryCapitalist

Mods... please fix tag line to read “Fitna” instead of Fatima..... geez, its been a long day at work...


11 posted on 09/22/2009 12:00:21 PM PDT by AngryCapitalist (PUSH HAS NOW COME TO SHOVE!)
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To: AngryCapitalist

I remember watching films in school that documented the holocaust, even prior to high school. These films showed piles of emaciated dead bodies. I don’t remember any parents complaining about it.


12 posted on 09/22/2009 12:01:14 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: AngryCapitalist

The parents should have been allowed a choice, between their children watching the movie or sitting in another room with blinders on and their head covered with a bag. (sarc)


13 posted on 09/22/2009 12:01:27 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: al_c

Me either.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 12:02:51 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: al_c

I don’t really care to see them either.


15 posted on 09/22/2009 12:03:12 PM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: ltc8k6

I was never shown that back in the 70s when I was in high school.


16 posted on 09/22/2009 12:03:49 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: AngryCapitalist
If you report "abuse" on yourself, they'll see it and take care of it.

Note that I'm not recommending that you actually abuse yourself ...

17 posted on 09/22/2009 12:06:11 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: al_c

Depending on the age I want EVERYONE to see such images. It is important to know who the enemy is. This film shows exactly who the enemy is. This is no worse than studying the Holocaust or watching Saving Private Ryan or any other graphic images of war. It is the guarding of our sensitivities that makes us forget


18 posted on 09/22/2009 12:09:04 PM PDT by the long march
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To: metmom; wintertime

Didn’t the parents know the teacher? Did they check her opinions and background before putting their child under her authority? Did her values line up with theirs?

If they didn’t research this person fully before placing their kid under her instruction, the parent is at fault. The parent alone is responsible for their child.

If you put your child under any adult authority, you better be sure where that authority stands...whether it’s in public, private or Sunday school. Otherwise, don’t complain.


19 posted on 09/22/2009 12:09:06 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: GeronL

The father is either of TROP or one of its useful infidels..


20 posted on 09/22/2009 12:09:09 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Fitna


21 posted on 09/22/2009 12:09:46 PM PDT by the long march
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To: luckystarmom

Those carnage films were hilarious. Might find the old classics under Drunk Driving Films on you tube or Google.


22 posted on 09/22/2009 12:10:38 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: luckystarmom

You never saw ANYTHING about the concentration camps in WWII? I find that hard to believe. In junior high school my math/home room teacher had been on Crrigedor and spent the war in a camp in Manchuria. Every year on Dec 7th he told us about it. By 9th grade he told us much more detail than when we were younger. Trust me it was one of THE most educational experiences I ever had.

My daughter’s junior year in high school had a woman who was a concentration camp survivor come and talk to them. She got a chance ( up close and personal) to see what tyranny is capable of.


23 posted on 09/22/2009 12:12:53 PM PDT by the long march
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To: AngryCapitalist

Too freaking bad!! I need counseling after seeing bodies falling out of the world trade center!!!


24 posted on 09/22/2009 12:14:36 PM PDT by Morgana ( Wir wollen nicht ein Forth Reich Obama!!!!)
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To: Morgana

AMEN


25 posted on 09/22/2009 12:15:33 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Perchant

On that note I had one English teacher force us to watch “Escape from Sobibor” even though I had seen it the night before. She said it was good we watched it, so that it would never happened again.


26 posted on 09/22/2009 12:16:36 PM PDT by Morgana ( Wir wollen nicht ein Forth Reich Obama!!!!)
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To: al_c

On the other hand — it is amazing that any school, anywhere, is showing the TRUTH about Islam. For that they should be applauded, imho. And yes, DO fear Islam — be very very afraid. They did perpetrate 9/11 and they want to behead YOU. Truth hurts, and all that.


27 posted on 09/22/2009 12:19:56 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: al_c

Me neither, which is why I don’t practice Islam or live in a Muslim country.


28 posted on 09/22/2009 12:22:55 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: AngryCapitalist

Now hold on, how old is she?

I’ve seen that movie and no way in hell is it appropriate for young kids.


29 posted on 09/22/2009 12:23:23 PM PDT by BJClinton (Any "healthcare reform" without tort reform is a fraud.)
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To: the long march

I did see things about the concentration camps (in black and white). I know I saw the survivors and then I think dead bodies. Nothing bloody, but it was black and white.

Also, we did have a concentration camp survivor come and talk to us.

I know they let our parents know about all of this in advance.

I don’t have a problem with this if they parents are told in advance. I think some kids can handle this sort of stuff, and some kids can’t.


30 posted on 09/22/2009 12:23:33 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: AngryCapitalist
the film "Fitna" blamed the Islam religion for the 9-11 attacks on the United States

Where would anyone get a crazy idea like that?

31 posted on 09/22/2009 12:23:56 PM PDT by San Jacinto (/i)
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To: AngryCapitalist

They can’t handle the truth!


32 posted on 09/22/2009 12:24:43 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: the long march

I can’t handle watching Saving Private Ryan. My mom has never been able to handle watching anything violent (can’t handle watching images of the Holocaust, and wouldn’t go see the Passion of the Christ).


33 posted on 09/22/2009 12:25:27 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: AngryCapitalist

Better to see it in a movie than on their street.


34 posted on 09/22/2009 12:25:40 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: BJClinton

It’s a high school, so not a young kid.


35 posted on 09/22/2009 12:26:20 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: bboop

Now that we have Obambi as our pretend-president, it is more important than ever to tell the truth about the butchers of Islam. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim.


36 posted on 09/22/2009 12:26:58 PM PDT by Czar (Life Member -- NRA)
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To: AngryCapitalist

To start with Islam is to blame for 9/11; learn to live with facts!

Second, most TV today is as bad, could have been the new season of “Sons of Anarchy.”

The real issue here is, most people are deliberately misled regarding Islam, an extremist movement disguised as a religion; should be banned on its face. Due to the primary tenets of hate and violation of codified laws applied to any individual/group behavior which declares and promotes violence, advocates unlawful activity among members and conducts activities in violation of Civil, Human and Constitutional Rights.


37 posted on 09/22/2009 12:28:05 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: AngryCapitalist

I am all for “Fitna,” but minors should not be subjected to violent images without parental permission. I would not have my daughters watch such stuff. They would be traumatized for months.

My sons on the other hand would probably deal with it fine.

I’m the mom, I know what’s ok and what’s not for my own.


38 posted on 09/22/2009 12:29:37 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: luckystarmom

But Fitna is not as graphic as it could be. It does not show a beheading in real time (as do those DVDs popular in Middle Eastern Markets). Fitna’s images could be shown on Network TV.


39 posted on 09/22/2009 12:30:36 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: ltc8k6

In re the high school carnage film, I had to attend a class with my minor son after he got a ticket for driving without his headlights. We had to watch a “Red Asphalt” type film and look at photo albums full of accident scenes. I closed my eyes THE WHOLE TIME.

I can’t tolerate images like that. I can’t get them out of my head. I know my limits.

I’d never make a kid look at that.


40 posted on 09/22/2009 12:31:06 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: thefactor

Exactly! We were shown some of Hitler’s consentration films in Jr High scvhool but before we were shown them our parents were sent permission slips.


41 posted on 09/22/2009 12:35:55 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: luckystarmom

If you can’t stomach history then you will be doomed to repeat it ( with apologies to Santayana).

Look it is important for people to understand what war is all about. Fact is there are a whole slew of folks out there who don’t give a rat’s behind about your squimish stomache. they behead, they suicide bomb, they do honor killings. This is the face of the enemy. know it, recognize it, and be willing to call it what it is -——EVIL. The squimish end up in camps


42 posted on 09/22/2009 12:36:53 PM PDT by the long march
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To: Monterrosa-24

Lots of things could be shown on Network TV.

I think you just let the parents know what’s going on and respect parents to know what to do with their own kids.

Some people just have low tolerance to violence, and I don’t think that is a bad thing.


43 posted on 09/22/2009 12:39:11 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
I graduated high school in 1973.

I remember being shown Holocaust films with footage of bodies being recovered from the concentration camps. Horrible to see human beings handled like so much cordwood.

Also the infamous "Signal 30" driver's ed film - the scene that sticks with me is when they pulled the kid from the wrecked car and dumped him into a sheet, and immediately the sheet sags into a misshapen lump and the blood starts running out the bottom . . . that's when a kid in the class threw up . . . .

I don't think we were any less sensitive than the kids of today . . . but our parents figured (1) the Holocaust happened and we needed to be aware of how horrible it was; (2) ditto teen driving accidents, and maybe we would not drink and drive because we didn't particularly want to end up a bloody lump in the bottom of a sheet . . . .

It's not like this was elementary school. The kids are on the verge of adulthood, and this is the world they're going to be living in.

44 posted on 09/22/2009 12:39:22 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AngryCapitalist
I put together a similar presentation for military officers. I had to modify it. The beheadings were too much for them.

Frankly, I disagreed with the decision.

In the good old days we would not have shown such things to our women, but rather just to the young men, just before we brought in the recruiters from the Army and Marines.

45 posted on 09/22/2009 12:39:56 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: AngryCapitalist
Blaming Islam for 9/11 is like blaming Nazism for the Holocaust.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

46 posted on 09/22/2009 12:40:05 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: the long march

In the past, people did not have TV, movie, or even pictures to show them violence.

Maybe it’s a boy/girl thing.

(I also don’t think you need to show pictures/videos of women having babies, yet women are totally prepared for that when it happens.)


47 posted on 09/22/2009 12:42:23 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
We had the birth films too, in sex ed.

It sure kept me from saying "yes" to any hypothetical indecent propositions from my classmates!

48 posted on 09/22/2009 12:44:58 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: The Comedian
Blaming Islam for 9/11 is like blaming Nazism for the Holocaust.

Line of the day. Did you come up with that?

49 posted on 09/22/2009 12:45:55 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Always love your country—but never trust your government--Robert Novak)
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To: luckystarmom
. . . and speak for yourself about being totally prepared! As my Lamaze instructor said, nothing can really prepare you for the real thing, except the real thing.

One muddles through somehow.

I had a great OB and a very supportive husband who stuck through the whole process despite having a very low tolerance for blood 'n' guts (like many big ol' country boys).

50 posted on 09/22/2009 12:47:38 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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