Whitman To Make Calif. Gubernatorial Bid Official

Business Week ^ | September 22, 2009 | Juliet Williams

[khnyny]

Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman said she wants to cut state spending by another $15 billion and reduce California's existing state work force by 17 percent, even as the state has wrestled with budget shortfalls in recent years that have led to deep cuts in education and other core programs.

Whitman will outline some of her campaign themes in a speech Tuesday during which she will formally announce her bid for the Republican nomination. The campaign rollout will be accompanied by a statewide radio ad promoting her business experience, most recently as the chief executive of eBay, the online auction site.

[manic4organic]

From RINO to RINOette.

[tet68]

Slim Whitman to run for gubbernor?

Una paloma Blancaaaaaaa!

[NormsRevenge]

wants to cut state spending by another $15 billion and reduce California’s existing state work force by 17 percent,

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(/snicker)

[randog]

Cutting 17% of the workforce should be a snap—any state employee with 4 or more words in their job title (e.g., “Assistant Deputy Liaison Coordinator”) is useless and can be cut with no impact to “the system”. The bonus is that these employees usually get paid more (hence the fancy job title) so you get more bang for the buck, so to speak.

[massgopguy]

Hasta la vista AHHHHNOLD!

[truthguy]

Anyone so easily conned by Van Jones doesn't have the street smarts to be governor. She's never held any type of elected position. She's got business experience and tons of money.

I'll have to go for a proven conservative like Tom Campbell.

[luckystarmom]

Do you think he’s conservative enough?

He lives near me, and I’ve met him several times at the grocery store.

I personally like him. He’s very nice (especially to the grocery store workers). He’s also very smart.

I think he’d be much better than Arnold (or any of the democrats). I don’t know much about Poizner or Whitman, and I’ve never met them.

[floridavoter2]

I think Californians will consider Whitman as Arnolds third term, and therefore not vote for her. How much effect can she possibly have in an ultra-liberal state where the legislature is controlled by Democrats? They will fight her just as hard as they fought Arnold.
Whitman may slow down the demise of California by not giving in to the Dems, but she cannot stop it from ultimately happening. Better to let the Dems take full blame for the mess they created.
Then of course, residents of CA will flee to more business friendly states with low taxes and start voting for the same sort of politicians that ruined CA. Maybe you really can’t fix stupid.

[khnyny]

Being Governor of California is a totally thankless job. California is a complete mess and imho, needs someone who actually understands and has created and run a successful business. Whitman can hire the “street smart” political hacks.

EBAY started with 30 employees and now has 15,000 and is a multi-billion dollar company. That’s a better track record than being a “community organizer”.

Personally, I’m sick of career politicians who have sucked off the teat of the government their whole life.

[AndyJackson]

Assistant Deputy Liaison Coordinator”

Well, that won't work. Who will the DADLCs report to? Who will do the DLCs' jobs for them. Indeed who will the liaison cooridantors have to liase with that coordination needs to be done. See, you can't answer any of these questions. Nope. It's a tightly woven organiational scheme. Pick that thread and the whole skein comes undone.

[Antoninus]

No thanks. Another McCainiac RINO.

[pissant]

I’d sure as hell vote for Slim over Meg

[truthguy]

Yes Campbell is a solid fiscal conservative and the absolute best we can hope for in California. He's 10X brighter than Arnold and knows his way around both business and government. He's moderate on social issues but we aren't going to get the perfect candidate.

Campbell will attract moderates and even some Democrats. I think he's the best chance the Republicans have for Governor. He will be a damn site better than Arnold or any Democrat. If Whitman can't recognize a con man like Van Jones, she shouldn't run. I don't really know a great deal about Poizner. I will study up on him. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I know more.

[khnyny]

Ok, I get it now. Whitman supported Romney in 2008.:) There’s a rather large contingent of people on FR that loathe Romney, lol.

[Antoninus]

There’s a rather large contingent of people on FR that loathe Romney, lol.

I don't loathe Romney so much as I loathe his slimy political posturing--talking like a conservative but governing like a complete and total liberal. Such politicians are suppurating ulcers on the GOP.

[Seruzawa]

That’s pretty good. I prefer simply firing everyone above the first line supervisor. They are all entirely worthless. True of any govt agency.

[AuH2ORepublican]

“I’ll have to go for a proven conservative like Tom Campbell.”

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I don’t know if anyone else appreciates your dry sense of humor, but I do.

[AuH2ORepublican]

“Yes Campbell is a solid fiscal conservative and the absolute best we can hope for in California. He’s 10X brighter than Arnold and knows his way around both business and government. He’s moderate on social issues but we aren’t going to get the perfect candidate. “

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Wait, you weren’t kidding when you called Campbell a “proven conservative”? Oh, my.

[truthguy]

Sometimes you have to make lemonade when you are given lemons. Yes Campbell leaves something to be desired. But given the choices, he's by far the best bet as far as I can tell. At least on economic issues, he's conservative enough. He was once my Congressman and I don't think he was a bad one. I've consigned myself to the fact that perfect candidates just don't come along. We have to deal with what we have. California cannot survive a Democratic Governor at this time.

[Czar]

I know, it's completely laughable.

But remember, it worked for the Austrian...run as a conservative, govern as a liberal.

[Amerigomag]

Sometimes you have to make lemonade when you are given lemons.

A valid consideration for a partisan.

But we're not on this forum because we're partisan. We subscribe and contribute because we're philosophical conservatives and we don't have to tolerate lemons.

Our strength is in our numbers. The 15% of the active electorate we constitute is the difference between an election victory and insignificance to the California Republican Party. If they send us a lemon, we don't participate and they loose. After enough losses, the California Republican Party will be forced to either acknowledge conservatism of perish.

[truthguy]

Well I guess this is the argument for our times. I cannot select the candidates. I can only vote/and or support those candidates we currently. I'm tired of waiting for the perfect candidate who is conservative in every way. It's far better to elect a conservative who is 80% of what we want. We are never going to get a perfect candidate. We are always going to get something less than this.

We have those on this site who hated Mitt Romney. Granted Romney wasn't my perfect candidate and I initially supported Fred Thompson or even Duncan Hunter. But those candidates went nowhere. So I was stuck with Romney who I'm convinced could have won.

Let me ask a theoretical question. Would we be better off with Mitt Romney as president or where we are now with the Republic in serious trouble. We would not have this health care mess. We would not have Cap-in-Trade. We would not have Sotomayer on the Supreme Court. We would not know who Van Jones, Mark Lloyd, or any of the many other Obama freaks are.

We would not have back stabbed Poland and the Czech Republic. We would not have canceled the F22. We would not have weakened our defenses.

So go ahead and wait for the perfect candidate. Just witness the damage while you wait forever.

[Diogenesis]

You RomneyBOTs think Obama backstabbing Poland was bad
but Team Romney's backstabbing America was OK.

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++8 pts. days prior to September 18th, 2008.
So the RomneyTeam attacked Gov. Palin and her children to throw Election2008.

"Frum was indeed a critic of Palin, calling her nomination a "huge mistake" during an October 13 Early Show appearance."

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David Frum: "Two of our most plausible candidates for president in 2012 are leading Mormons: Mitt Romney and Utah governor Jon Huntsman."

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David Frum: "I have a lot of regard for Mitt Romney as a man and politician.
Let me say for the record: If Romney emerges as the Republican nominee, I will support him without qualm."

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Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House,
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin.
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
He's in charge on November 5th.'"
The Prowler added: "Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Romney supporters in the McCain campaign had access to internal polling which indicated well in advance of the November 4 election that McCain had no chance to win.
So they began working to position their man Mitt for a run in 2012. Just two days after the election,The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
These aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
Erick Erickson, who organized Operation Leper, said:
"Here’s what I think: I think there are some staffers on the McCain campaign who seriously screwed up the roll out of Sarah Palin, to which Governor Palin herself objected.
These staffers are now out trying to finish her off thinking, as typical D.C. types do, that if they don’t do it to her, she’ll do it to them. They just never understood who Palin is or what she is about."
"Likewise, I do think there are some staffers and others who expect Mitt Romney to run again in 2012,
they decided McCain could not win, and decided to undermine Sarah Palin and her chances hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."

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"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign? (Mark Wallace, Romney pimp)
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."

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Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney

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"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

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[truthguy]

You need help. You Palin people have blinders on. For the record I like the woman and I voted for McCain. But my argument goes further than Palin and Romney. I was using that as an example. Do you wait forever for the mythical candidate who NEVER appears or do you go with someone who can win. I started off by saying that I was for Duncan Hunter and then Fred Thompson. When they dropped out I was forced to choose between Romney and McCain. I chose Romney. I couldn't stand McCain. As I stated repeatedly Romney WAS NOT my perfect candidate. Far from it. However would it be better to have Romney or Obama. Then what do I get except some garbage about how bad some of Romney's staff is. WTF? Who cares at this point.

I still believe Romney would have had a damn site better chance against Obama than McCain. I knew McCain would lose. Romney might have lost. But I think there are those on this site that are happy in defeat. The worse things get the better they like it. These are crazy people who know nothing about politics and the art of compromise. They think they can get people elected with 15% of the population. They can't do simple math. They are losers. They will ensure we lose time and time again.

That's all.

[Amerigomag]

Would we be better off with a liberal Republican as president or where we are now with the Republic in serious trouble.

Yes, we get that a lot here.

Our answer is: You ran McCain and we deserted you. Now you've got a socialist enjoying the trappings of power. Are you again going to expend your energies and money suppressing a conservative candidate in 2012? Do you really want to suffer another humiliating defeat, suffocating in socialism until 2016?

[truthguy]

You ran McCain and we deserted you

My question it you is this: "were you born this delusional or did you have to train for it" ?

Honestly can you even read? I was for Duncan Hunter. I even gave him money. I was then for Fred Thompson. I gave him money. How was I suppressing a conservative candidate?

Do you understand that conservative of the types we have here on FR are NOT a majority in the United States? How can you win without moderates? You can't win with just the Palin supporters. You WILL get killed. I like Palin and but I'm for the candidate who can WIN. Get it? This is true whether it's Tom Campbell in CA or whoever in the presidential. I don't know how to get through to you Palin supporters. You really need professional help. You are truly delusional.

[Diogenesis]

Blinders? If you Team Romney people had dropped off
the planet, instead of throwing Election2008 to him,
Obama would not be destroying the USA.

Of course you chose Romney. After all, he
helped ACORN and sucked at the teat of AIG.
You like that, too? You betcha.

[Amerigomag]

How can you win without moderates?

Once again, through the partisan looking glass.

We aren't trying to win. We can't win! Were only 15% of the active electorate. The best we can do is to influence partisan politics because of our numbers.

15% of the electorate would be the largest plurality in the Republican base. We are typically the core of a 3rd party. We're big enough to matter but not large enough to win.

At 15% we should hope to influence every 8th election cycle. Our day is coming. The stage is set, much as it was in California in 2002. Let the Magic Negro ram his agenda down the electorate's throat. But don't waste our time with a pretender like Shrub or the Austrian or, most recently, the angry little man. Your Republican Party can win, with a little help from us. Don't blow the opportunity that's coming your way.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

I don't know how to get through to you Palin supporters. You really need professional help. You are truly delusional.

I think you're on the wrong board, bub.

If the grassroots TEA Party movement could nominate a candidate for president, who would it be?

This is a Conservative board. Sarah Palin is a Conservative. Neither Moderates nor compromise "electable" candidates cut it here. End of lesson.

Take it up with the boss if you have any questions.

[DanZanRyu]

Believing Romney is a conservative like believing the Earth is flat. You are the one who is delusional who thinks Romney is a cosnervative. Romney was an epic failure as MA Governor. He brought gay marriage and socialized medicine in MA. Plus he destroyed the MA GOP. I won’t support that dirt bag. Glenn Beck is right. RINOs are worse than Dems.

[truthguy]

I can see that this is going to require remedial education.

I'm going to say this one more time. I was originally for Duncan Hunter-big time conservative. I was then for Fred Thompson-big time conservative. When he dropped out I was forced to choose between McCain or Romney. I chose Romney because I thought he might have a better chance of winning. I also can't stand McCain even though I voted for him. That's all I'm saying.

I'm getting lunatics calling me a shrill for Romney. I'm a member of Team Romney, etc. Look I don't have time to teach reading. But if you think you can win general elections without moderates, then you need remedial education in politics.

[truthguy]

Look Miss Virginia, I don't remember you being the one who makes the rules on this site. I've stated repeatedly that I supported Duncan Hunter and then Fred Thompson-both certified Conservatives. When they were out I chose Romney over McCain. I sure wasn't going to vote for Giuliani.

This brings us back to the basic argument. Would you rather lose with a solid conservative or win with someone who is a little less conservative? I'd choose the latter. We cannot afford more than four years of Obama. The country cannot survive a second Obama term. A lot can happen between now and 2012. There might be new faces on the scene. But if you think that we can win a general election with just conservatives, you are certifiable. You must be able to appeal to moderates as well. This is how Ronald Reagan was elected twice by comfortable margins.

[dennisw]

If we had McCain right now the economy would be as bad as with Obama. It is just a bad economic time for whoever is President. So all in all it is better that 0bama is in and Democrats take all the blame

McCain would have been working with the same Democrat Congress as 0bama and would have been “reaching across the aisle” non stop. McCain would have been no better than a Democrat

McCain was the nominee
But if somehow Mitt Romney was nominated and elected president he has so much economic and businesses experience that we would right now be seeing the groundwork laid for a solid economic recovery done via the private sector not via Federal stimulus and bailouts and cash_for_clunkers

[truthguy]

At 15% we should hope to influence every 8th election cycle. Our day is coming. The stage is set, much as it was in California in 2002.

I honestly don't know what you are talking about. WTF happened in California in 2002? I live in CA and follow politics and I don't know what you are talking about.
Are you mad? Every 8th election cycle? That's a recipe for nothing.
I suggest you up the medication.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Well for all the griping I’ve seen on these Whitman threads about this and that.

If there are more conservative GOP candidates in California I suggest they get their act together.

Ms. Whitman is (already) running some very well made commercials. Heard one already today, and she just announced ... today!!

Sure looks to this poster like Ms. Whitman has just thrown down the gauntlet to “Lead. Follow. Or get out of the way.”

2010 has just begun in California.

Complaining ain’t gonna cut it.

Have a favorite candidate? Better get them out there.

[Elsie]

Then of course, residents of CA will flee to more business friendly states with low taxes and start voting for the same sort of politicians that ruined CA.

They already have!

Ask ANY of the old timers in the western states that have benn over run by fleeing Californians - they came and bought up EVERYTHING available - out voted the locals and the West as it was known just 15 years ago is GONE!

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(Now they know what the Indians faced 180 years ago!)

[Elsie]

When Clinton was impeached; he was disbarred.

When it’s O’s turn; will he be disorganized?

[Elsie]

I prefer simply firing everyone above the first line supervisor. They are all entirely worthless. True of any govt agency.

The Peter Principle on steroids.

[Elsie]

But those candidates went nowhere.

And MITT followed after them...

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

That's Mr. Virginia to you. And your argument is fallacious because Conservatives can win. No more RINOs.

[Amerigomag]

WTF happened in California in 2002?

Unfortunately, along with other, obvious shortcomings, partisans usually don't follow politics very closely. I'm also tiring of protecting partisans from themselves and holding endless history reviews for their sake.

Go do the homework and then come back and contribute. Your assignment:

1) What events occurred in California in 2002 that lead to a grass roots revolt among the electorate?
2) How, when and why was this revolt finally adopted by partisan organizations.
3) Were those partisan organizations effective in accomplishing their stated goals?
4) If not, how did they loose control?
5) Would California have been better off if the status quo had been maintained?

[truthguy]

Nothing happened politically of any major significance in California in 2002. You don't know what you are talking about.

Your comments about partisans are idiotic. Make your points if you can which I doubt.

Either up the medication or seek professional help.