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Romney Makes Case For Government-Run Health Care
American Spectator ^ | 09/12/09 | Philip Klein

Posted on 09/21/2009 6:28:55 PM PDT by mountainbunny

There he goes again. Newsmax has published an interview with Mitt Romney in which he once again touts his big government Massachusetts health care plan as a monumental success:

"What we were able to accomplish was to get almost all of our citizens insured without breaking the bank and without having a so-called public option," Romney says. "I think the program is a real success and that it can teach lessons to other states, and to the nation."

To start with, Romney is wrong on the merits. Michael Cannon has done an excellent job documenting what a colossal failure Romneycare has been, bringing higher costs and longer wait times to citizens of Massachusetts. The Massachusetts Taxpayer Foundation numbers Romney cites in his interview understated the cost of the legislation by, among other things, ignoring the program's cost to the federal government. Even the state's Democratic State Treasurer, Timothy P. Cahill, has told the Boston Globe that the promised savings from the universal health care legislation never materialized, and he cautioned that, "It's a warning for the federal government as it looks to do something similar.''

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Mitt Romney is on the pre-campaign trail again, trying to whitewash the socialist failure that is Romneycare as a success.

What's the difference again, between the socialism Romney imposed on the taxpaying voters of Massachusetts, and the socialism the Democrats want to impose on the rest of us?

1 posted on 09/21/2009 6:28:56 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: rabscuttle385

Ping!


2 posted on 09/21/2009 6:29:48 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: mountainbunny

So the entire country thinks its a bad idea and he doesn’t get it.

GET RID OF THE RINOs


3 posted on 09/21/2009 6:30:47 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mountainbunny

What amazes me is that this story doesn’t seem to be an automatic disqualification for a Romney Presidential nomination by some on this board.


4 posted on 09/21/2009 6:31:23 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: mountainbunny

And People want this RHINO in the presidency? I don’t think so.

How about a real republican if we can find one.


5 posted on 09/21/2009 6:31:37 PM PDT by longun45 (Still think a revolution cannot happen here? It's coming and gaining speed.)
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To: mountainbunny
DEMOCRAT ROMNEY

We aren't fighting socialism with this guy behind enemy lines fighting us too. He IS the enemy.

6 posted on 09/21/2009 6:33:12 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (< / 0bummerCare>)
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To: mountainbunny

I hope all the Romneybots stop by for a visit on this thread.................but I wouldn’t wait up past bedtime............probably not going to happen.


7 posted on 09/21/2009 6:34:49 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: mountainbunny

Shut up Mitt!


8 posted on 09/21/2009 6:34:53 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mountainbunny

Oh, yeah, let’s all get behind this conservative believer in small gov’t. /s


9 posted on 09/21/2009 6:35:17 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: mountainbunny

the “conservative’s conservative” /sarc
Sorry Laura..still love ya but you really blew it with that one


10 posted on 09/21/2009 6:35:21 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Romney was the first person I’d ever heard use the silly analogy that people can be forced to carry health insurance just as they are forced to carry auto insurance. Sorry Romney/Obama I may need a license, insurance and proof of registration to drive on a public road . . . but I don’t need any of those things merely to exist. My body is not your property, and you will not force me to insure it as if it were.


11 posted on 09/21/2009 6:35:24 PM PDT by TheVitaminPress
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To: Uncle Miltie
DEMOCRAT ROMNEY

We aren't fighting socialism with this guy behind enemy lines fighting us too. He IS the enemy.

We need to insist that the GOP reject Romney.

I don't know where to start, but maybe with a list of those Romney is doling out money to through his PAC. That money will no doubt come with strings attached, and Romney will use those strings to drag the Republican Party to the left.

Ask them to give the money back.

12 posted on 09/21/2009 6:36:58 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: mountainbunny

Gee, how’d those socialist thoughts and actions work for you in ‘08 Mitt?


13 posted on 09/21/2009 6:38:00 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: mountainbunny

He needs to be barred from the GOP.


14 posted on 09/21/2009 6:40:27 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: mountainbunny

Why is this guy still anyone’s favorite for a candidate in 2012. This is worse than McCain.


15 posted on 09/21/2009 6:42:16 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black.)
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To: mountainbunny

isnt his state screwed because of healthcare?


16 posted on 09/21/2009 6:42:20 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: mountainbunny

NO RINOS!!! Take them out of the straw polls as well!!


17 posted on 09/21/2009 6:42:36 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: mountainbunny

There were substantive differences, but the similarities between “RomneyCare” and the proposed HR 3200 are enough reason to find fault with both.

Gov. Romney is starting to wear me out with this. I think it’s accurate to say that his version of Government Health Care is about as good as could be expected from Government Health Care - that is, it’s very, very bad.

Romney’s idea of opening up insurance markets, reducing mandates, and offering public assistance for low income people had some merit. (I didn’t like it, but I was willing to see how it worked out)

It now serves as an outstanding example of why even the best intentioned Government Health Care will fail. Within 2 years it became saturated with patronage positions, obscene red tape, and endless additional mandates placed on Insurance companies by the Mass. legislature.

Time to give this one up Gov. Romney !


18 posted on 09/21/2009 6:42:45 PM PDT by crescen7 (game on)
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To: mountainbunny
Please, Mr.Romney, don't run. Do us all a favor. We are sick of RINOs.
19 posted on 09/21/2009 6:43:13 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: mountainbunny
romney makes case for why millions of CONSERVATIVES will NEVER vote for his pos self.

LLS

20 posted on 09/21/2009 6:43:45 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: mountainbunny

This SOB had rather sell us into slavery to win the POTUS seat more than anything else. Get rid of these idiots from the GOP. My gosh, what does it take to WAKE UP you Mittbots?


21 posted on 09/21/2009 6:43:49 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: mountainbunny

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2322014/posts

Bay State health insurance premiums highest in country (Rein in health costs, Massachusetts urged)

Boston Globe ^ | 8/22/09 | Kay Lazar


22 posted on 09/21/2009 6:43:58 PM PDT by maggief
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To: ReneeLynn
Check out this bit of delusion:


23 posted on 09/21/2009 6:44:16 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: TheVitaminPress
Welcome Newbie!!

I just love the way you just said what I think. I'll be damned if the guvmint is going to force me to play this marxist game.

24 posted on 09/21/2009 6:44:20 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
CONSERVATIVES on this board... including Jimbo the owner... disqualified mitt long ago.

LLS

25 posted on 09/21/2009 6:45:03 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: mountainbunny

This is the end of Romney. If he had come out and said government, even at the state level, cannot do this, I think he would have had a shot. But he can’t see it. Or can’t admit it.

I don’t think for one minute that Romney hates America the way that Obozo does, but he has a sense of omnipotence and that is a bad thing.


26 posted on 09/21/2009 6:45:36 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
What amazes me is that this story doesn’t seem to be an automatic disqualification for a Romney Presidential nomination by some on this board.

I am certainly not one of these you describe. When I saw the Romney/Kennedy debate, I thought it was a love fest between two democrats, and I have not supported him since. Do we have any REAL Republicans out there? I am beginning to think we can count them on one hand.

27 posted on 09/21/2009 6:46:23 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: mountainbunny

As awful as Obama is, I don’t see much hope for a viable Republican candidate in 2012. Here’s hoping that Obama defeats himself.


28 posted on 09/21/2009 6:47:18 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Colonel_Flagg
What amazes me is that this story doesn’t seem to be an automatic disqualification for a Romney Presidential nomination by some on this board.

Some people are blinded by what they see as Romney's "family values", his faith, etc.

Many of the people who support Romney focus like a laser on those things - they never look too closely at his record... it ruins the idea that he's a perfect candidate. In fact, if you point those things out, they will claim he's changed, he's different, he just did what "had" to be done.

If it sounds like the same sort of superficiality that got Obama elected, that's probably not a coincidence.

And like Obama, electing a packaged idea rather than an actual man (or woman) with actual ideas that he's (she's) committed to, is a bad, bad thing.

29 posted on 09/21/2009 6:47:20 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: mylife

Sarah would never agree.

LLS


30 posted on 09/21/2009 6:47:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
We need to get Sarah into the game before she starts a 3rd party which could hurt us. Romney needs to change from (r) to (D).

Make that 50,000,000 plus one more.

31 posted on 09/21/2009 6:48:02 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: mountainbunny

Pro choice, government health care, total tool... vs. pro choice, government health care, total tool in 2012. AKA, Obama vs. Romney.


32 posted on 09/21/2009 6:48:56 PM PDT by xplodingboy07
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To: mountainbunny

33 posted on 09/21/2009 6:49:12 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: LibLieSlayer

It’s preposterous


34 posted on 09/21/2009 6:49:54 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Junior_G

I agree with your assessment. The Republican Party will nominate Hucklebee, Romney, or probably John Mc Cain again. Either way obama wins again.


35 posted on 09/21/2009 6:51:09 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

No. America has had a belly full already.

Obama is a one term wonder.


36 posted on 09/21/2009 6:52:43 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I find myself in full agreement with you.


37 posted on 09/21/2009 6:53:51 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: raptor29

Romney was the best running last year.

There are no conservative leaders because there are damn few across-the-board 3-pillar economic-security-social conservatives.

Nobody wants to be Alan Keyesed - so conservative that even his (1/3 and 2/3) “conservative” “friends” call him a loon and desert to the left.


38 posted on 09/21/2009 6:54:08 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Rapunzel

Thank you! :)


39 posted on 09/21/2009 6:54:33 PM PDT by TheVitaminPress
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To: mountainbunny

Careful - there are some Freepers who still believe that Mitt is the Great White Salvation of the Republican Party, and don’t take too kindly to disparaging posts of his character or his record (even if true).

As for me - Romney is someone I just don’t believe I would cast a vote for.


40 posted on 09/21/2009 6:54:44 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: brushcop

You’ve captured Romney perfectly. Perhaps ObamaCare will finally make more in our party see it.


41 posted on 09/21/2009 6:54:47 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mountainbunny

Romney’s chickens... are coming home... to roost!


42 posted on 09/21/2009 6:55:14 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: mylife

And insane.

LLS


43 posted on 09/21/2009 6:55:20 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
romney makes case for why millions of CONSERVATIVES will NEVER vote for his pos self.

I don't think he can win, but I think he can manage to get himself nominated. Or, nearly as bad, that he can bring his money to the table and knock better qualified candidates out of the contest.

We need to reject him now, not when he's the only choice we have after slithering into to the nomination with his money and his well-oiled lie machine. One look at what Romney did to Sarah Palin (lies lies lies) should give pause to everyone who claim that he's an honorable man. You don't have to support Palin to see that what Romney's people did to her was wrong.

44 posted on 09/21/2009 6:56:49 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: mountainbunny
Romney tried to pose as a conservative at the Values Voter Summit. Good thing, the people there saw through his phoniness and voted for a real conservative in the straw poll, Mike Huckabee! Conservatives need to rally around Huckabee now in order to stop Romney.
45 posted on 09/21/2009 6:57:21 PM PDT by DanZanRyu
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To: mylife

I hope you are correct but knowing the Republican Party I will believe it when I see it.


46 posted on 09/21/2009 6:57:56 PM PDT by sport
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To: Rapunzel
There will be no third party if the republicans nominate a Conservative... if they do not... it matters not... because too many of us will never again vote for a liberal like mcdole.

LLS

47 posted on 09/21/2009 6:59:06 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: mountainbunny
Mitt Romney is on the pre-campaign trail again, trying to whitewash the socialist failure that is Romneycare...

Yep. Romney will not be able to shake off that yoke he locked around his own neck. Certainly, potential Republican primary opponents will beat him to death faster than the rats will, since the rats are proposing plans that are even more costly and deadly to Americans. Romney is in a real pickle now.

________________________________________________

Governor Mitt Romney signs the socialist health care bill as Democrats look on and laugh their rear ends off. The governor thought the Democrats were laughing WITH him.


48 posted on 09/21/2009 6:59:24 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: brushcop
This SOB had rather sell us into slavery to win the POTUS seat more than anything else. Get rid of these idiots from the GOP. My gosh, what does it take to WAKE UP you Mittbots?

You describe the situation perfectly. Romney doesn't care about conservative ideas or furthering an agenda of freedom. He cares about Mitt Romney and will say or do whatever it takes to get to the White House.

49 posted on 09/21/2009 7:00:19 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: mylife

Back to obama... America has not seen anything near to what obama is going to do to her before his first term expires.What you are witnessing now is akin to the Phoney War in WWII.


50 posted on 09/21/2009 7:01:39 PM PDT by sport
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