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Man Didn't Know He Was Robbing a Cop (till he got shot to death)
NBC 10 News Philadelphia ^ | 9-20-09 | Danielle Johnson

Posted on 09/21/2009 11:56:50 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland

A Philadelphia man was shot to death after trying to rob an off-duty cop Sunday, according to police.

It happened around 2a.m. in the 5800 block of Catherine Streets in West Philadelphia.

An off duty officer who was headed home after working the night shift at the 19th District, was approached by two men who announced they were going to rob him, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

One of the men put a gun to the officer's chest. The officer, who had his gun with him, fired one shot at the suspect who later died at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania. The other suspect fired at the officer while leaving the scene.

Police said the second suspect is between 18-20 years old, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall and wearing a tan hooded shirt.

The officer was assigned to desk duty until an investigation is completed.

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Occupational hazard--chefs get burnt, carpenters get splinters--and scumbags occasionally get dispatched when they go after the wrong person.

Good, solid description of the second suspect /sarc

1 posted on 09/21/2009 11:56:50 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Good, solid description of the second suspect /sarc

Yep. Guy or gal?

2 posted on 09/21/2009 11:58:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 243 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Two men, nully, two men...


3 posted on 09/21/2009 11:58:37 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 243 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

2009 Darwin contender.


4 posted on 09/21/2009 11:59:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

I love a happy ending. BTT.


5 posted on 09/21/2009 11:59:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Next time a story like this comes down the pike, I want my “Snuggie” and some hot cocoa while I read it! It’s so heart warming!


6 posted on 09/21/2009 12:01:27 PM PDT by albie
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Police said the second suspect is between 18-20 years old, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall and wearing a tan hooded shirt. and a brown stain on his shorts.
7 posted on 09/21/2009 12:01:35 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Yeah, left out the part about the stained pants. And the dead perp had enough time to reflect on his pending trip to hell.


8 posted on 09/21/2009 12:01:45 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Good, solid description of the second suspect /sarc

Much can be inferred from the fact that this took place in Philadelphia.

9 posted on 09/21/2009 12:02:02 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Police said the second suspect is between 18-20 years old, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall, wearing a tan hooded shirt, baggy brown stained pants.............
10 posted on 09/21/2009 12:02:02 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Police said the second suspect is between 18-20 years old, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall and wearing a tan hooded shirt.

I take it that any further description of the suspect was deemed unnecessary.

11 posted on 09/21/2009 12:02:03 PM PDT by San Jacinto (/i)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Isn’t that a blues song?

Didn’t know I was robbing
I say I didn’t know I was robbing
A cop
Until Until Until
that cop shot me
Damn, I was shot...


12 posted on 09/21/2009 12:02:06 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: null and void

Must be a guy—Amish women aren’t usually out that late....

; )


13 posted on 09/21/2009 12:02:45 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: Ben Mugged

And his baggy shorts down to his knees and underwear to his hips. Hence he had to Hip Hop away.


14 posted on 09/21/2009 12:03:43 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Mac from Cleveland; Joe Brower; sit-rep; Squantos; Eaker; Travis McGee

Happy ending.

Now let everyone else carry too.


15 posted on 09/21/2009 12:04:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Somewhere, a grandmother is saying “He a good boy”....

He’s even better now.


16 posted on 09/21/2009 12:04:22 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

It wasn’t that perp didn’t know ‘victim’ was a cop, it was that odds were low that a citizen would be armed


17 posted on 09/21/2009 12:04:31 PM PDT by beefree (citizens should be armed)
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To: albie

Give the cop a medal. He no doubt saved society a lot of trouble down the road.


18 posted on 09/21/2009 12:04:45 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: San Jacinto
I take it that any further description of the suspect was deemed unnecessary.

Yeah, they'll tell us what color the perp's clothing was, but...

19 posted on 09/21/2009 12:05:15 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: TNCMAXQ

Dirt Nap Alert.


20 posted on 09/21/2009 12:06:31 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: null and void

I ain’t sayin’ nothin’! Don’t wanna get zapped again!


21 posted on 09/21/2009 12:07:53 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

The usual...The media angle is the perp got what he deserved because it was a cop that shot him, but an average citizen would be held to the fire over it.


22 posted on 09/21/2009 12:08:01 PM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
I'd be somewhat interested in the mechanics of going from a gun pointed at his chest to fatally wounding one of the perps. Anyway, good for the cop (and the rest of society).
23 posted on 09/21/2009 12:08:08 PM PDT by LTCJ
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Rehabilitation through reincarnation!

Well done, Officer!


24 posted on 09/21/2009 12:09:22 PM PDT by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: beefree

Reminds me of this piece of dog$h!t that got a little more action than he bargained for...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Perry

Edmund Perry was a 17 year old Harlem resident who was shot to death by a plainclothes policeman on June 12, 1985. The case briefly generated a firestorm of protest in New York City when it was revealed that Perry was an honor student and was enrolled to attend Stanford on scholarship; however, witnesses claimed that Perry and his brother had attempted to mug the officer, and the shooting was ruled justifiable

Lee Van Houten, a 24 year old plainclothes policeman, was on assignment in the Morningside Park section of Manhattan on the night of June 12, 1985, when he was assaulted by two men who attempted to mug him. According to Van Houten, he was approached from behind and yanked to the ground by his neck, where two black men beat him and demanded that he give them money. He drew his gun from his ankle holster and fired three times, hitting Edmund Perry in the abdomen. The other attacker fled, and was later identified by witnesses as Jonah Perry, Edmund’s brother.

At the time of his death, Perry was a recent graduate of Phillips Exeter Academy in Exeter, New Hampshire, one of the most prestigious preparatory schools in the United States. The revelation of this fact led to significant press coverage, much of it unfavorable to the police. The front page headline of the New York Post the next day was “COP KILLS HARLEM HONOR STUDENT”. The Village Voice suggested that Perry was shot because he was “too black for his own good”, and the New York Times wrote that “...the death of Edmund Perry raises painfully troubling questions”.

However, 23 witnesses backed up Van Houten’s version of events, and the media firestorm was short-lived. Van Houten was cleared of any culpability in the shooting. Jonah Perry, also an alumnus of Exeter, was later put on trial for assaulting Van Houten. He was found not guilty.

Perry’s experiences at Exeter and the circumstances surrounding his death formed the basis of the best-selling 1987 book “Best Intentions: The Education and Killing of Edmund Perry”, written by Robert Sam Anson. On January 6, 1992, NBC aired the TV movie Murder Without Motive: The Edmund Perry Story, directed by Kevin Hooks. Perry was portrayed by Curtis McClarin.

Michael Jackson’s song, “Bad,” was inspired by Perry, as was a first-season episode of Law & Order, entitled “Poison Ivy”.


25 posted on 09/21/2009 12:10:08 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: beefree

Reminds me of this piece of dog$h!t that got a little more action than he bargained for...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Perry

Edmund Perry was a 17 year old Harlem resident who was shot to death by a plainclothes policeman on June 12, 1985. The case briefly generated a firestorm of protest in New York City when it was revealed that Perry was an honor student and was enrolled to attend Stanford on scholarship; however, witnesses claimed that Perry and his brother had attempted to mug the officer, and the shooting was ruled justifiable

Lee Van Houten, a 24 year old plainclothes policeman, was on assignment in the Morningside Park section of Manhattan on the night of June 12, 1985, when he was assaulted by two men who attempted to mug him. According to Van Houten, he was approached from behind and yanked to the ground by his neck, where two black men beat him and demanded that he give them money. He drew his gun from his ankle holster and fired three times, hitting Edmund Perry in the abdomen. The other attacker fled, and was later identified by witnesses as Jonah Perry, Edmund’s brother.

At the time of his death, Perry was a recent graduate of Phillips Exeter Academy in Exeter, New Hampshire, one of the most prestigious preparatory schools in the United States. The revelation of this fact led to significant press coverage, much of it unfavorable to the police. The front page headline of the New York Post the next day was “COP KILLS HARLEM HONOR STUDENT”. The Village Voice suggested that Perry was shot because he was “too black for his own good”, and the New York Times wrote that “...the death of Edmund Perry raises painfully troubling questions”.

However, 23 witnesses backed up Van Houten’s version of events, and the media firestorm was short-lived. Van Houten was cleared of any culpability in the shooting. Jonah Perry, also an alumnus of Exeter, was later put on trial for assaulting Van Houten. He was found not guilty.

Perry’s experiences at Exeter and the circumstances surrounding his death formed the basis of the best-selling 1987 book “Best Intentions: The Education and Killing of Edmund Perry”, written by Robert Sam Anson. On January 6, 1992, NBC aired the TV movie Murder Without Motive: The Edmund Perry Story, directed by Kevin Hooks. Perry was portrayed by Curtis McClarin.

Michael Jackson’s song, “Bad,” was inspired by Perry, as was a first-season episode of Law & Order, entitled “Poison Ivy”.


26 posted on 09/21/2009 12:10:40 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
the second suspect is between 18-20 years old, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall and wearing a tan hooded shirt.

I didn't know the Amish wore hooded shirts.

27 posted on 09/21/2009 12:12:00 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Something's missing from this description, can't put my finger on it. . . .)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Larry Lucido wrote:
"Happy ending. Now let everyone else carry too."

I've always found that when people have asked me "Why do you carry a gun?", "Because I can't carry a cop" is a good retort.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

28 posted on 09/21/2009 12:13:07 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Disambiguator
Much can be inferred from the fact that this took place in Philadelphia.

OK, I was thinking Pennsylvania Dutch, but they're a little farther west. So maybe it was one of them Quakers.

29 posted on 09/21/2009 12:14:04 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Something's missing from this description, can't put my finger on it. . . .)
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To: Joe Brower
"Why do you carry a gun?", "Because I can't carry a cop" is a good retort.

When they ask me why I carry a .45 I say.."because they don't make a 46!"

30 posted on 09/21/2009 12:14:23 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Somewhere, a grandmother is saying “He a good boy”....

Yes, he was "turning his life around", I'm sure.

31 posted on 09/21/2009 12:15:19 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Puppage
When they ask me why I carry a .45 I say.."because they don't make a 46!"

.88 Magnum

Yes, but do you have an .88 Magnum? It shoots through schools!

32 posted on 09/21/2009 12:16:19 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

And for something completely different, read the concealed carry law in Pa. It is actually easier to get a CC license there than in many other states. As a KY resident, I can even get a 5 year, non-resident CC license for Pa by forwarding a copy of my Ky CC license and drivers license to the State. (Althought my Ky license is recognized there.) Given the utter criminal in the Gov’s mansion, I would have though a CC license would have been impossible.


33 posted on 09/21/2009 12:16:26 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Man Didn't Know He Was Robbing a Cop (till he got shot to death)

Well, you live and you learn.

Sometimes, of course, you learn to late to do any further living.

Which is where "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning" comes into play.

34 posted on 09/21/2009 12:17:39 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
"Occupational hazard--chefs get burnt, carpenters get splinters--and scumbags occasionally get dispatched when they go after the wrong person."

Yeah, shame that...about the cooks and carpenters....

35 posted on 09/21/2009 12:17:44 PM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland; Larry Lucido

Yeah. I used to be a deputy in a mexican part of county an the description was always .....hispanic male, 5’4” , white tshirt an blue jeans running south on broadway etc etc.

Good day when criminals die !!


36 posted on 09/21/2009 12:17:58 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Joe Brower

All is well, that ends well!

Be Ever Vigilant!


37 posted on 09/21/2009 12:18:12 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I didn't know the Amish wore hooded shirts.

Especially tan ones. I would at least have expected the hooded shirt to have been a black one.

38 posted on 09/21/2009 12:18:18 PM PDT by Bob
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To: LTCJ
I thought the same thing..twitch of the finger and the cop is dead..so what happened that he was able to fire on them? and had this been an ordinary citizen, the bad guys probably would had to have fired first before the citizen could respond in kind otherwise it could be considered unnecessary force.
39 posted on 09/21/2009 12:20:07 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Squantos

A friend of mine in high school joined the Marine Corps after graduation,as I did. He got out after 4 years and returned to Cleveland.

He went to school on the GI Bill. A year after his return, he was shot and killed in robbery. The decription of the perp was “a black man, medium height, 20-30 years old, with a gun”

I said “Hell, that narrows it down to 500,000 suspects”

PS—amazingly, they wound up catching the guy—he kept robbing, killing someone else and finally got caught.


40 posted on 09/21/2009 12:22:48 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
"Somewhere, a grandmother is saying “He a good boy”....

He’s even better now."

Now THATS Funny!!!

I'm going to use that (while giving full credit where due of course)!

The scumbag baby mommie's and baby grammies and auntie's same the same freaking thing here in Cincy.

Must be a universal scumbag reflex.

41 posted on 09/21/2009 12:23:34 PM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: Puppage
"When they ask me why I carry a .45 I say.."because they don't make a 46!""

Is that because you don't want 0.04" larger???

.50 GI

* Model No. 2 50GI

.50 Action Express

* Desert Eagle .50 AE

* Automag V

* Grizzly Mark V

.500 S&W Magnum

* BFR .500 S&W Magnum

* Raging Bull Model 500

* Smith & Wesson Model 500

* JTL-E .500 S&W Magnum[1]

* Thor Raptor (.500 S&W Magnum pistol)

Other

* Model 83 .500 WE (.500 Wyoming Express revolver)

* Ruger Bisley .500 Linebaugh (.500 Linebaugh revolver)

* Ruger .500 Maximum JRH (.500 Maximum JRH revolver)

* BFR .50 Beowulf (.50 Beowulf revolver)

* Remington M1865 Navy (.50 Remington pistol)

* Tranter .577 (.577 Boxer double action revolver, 5 round cylinder)

* Bland-Pryse .577 Revolver * Braendlin .577 (.577 Boxer double action revolver, 6 round cylinder)

* Webley .577 (.577 Boxer double action revolver, 4 round cylinder)

* Zeliska (.600 Nitro Express revolver)

* Thunder .50 BMG (.50 BMG pistol)[2]

42 posted on 09/21/2009 12:33:09 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Police said the second suspect is between 18-20 years old, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall and wearing a tan hooded shirt..

..and pants with a dark stain in the rear.

43 posted on 09/21/2009 12:38:15 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TC Rider
I wouldn't have made my last comment if I'd know 3 people had beaten me to the punch line. But seriously, he only shot one of the perps? What the heck is with that? Was he carrying one of those little one shot derringers?

He may have been hesitant to back shoot him if he was running away.

The cop could have said, "Aaargghh, your buddy got me, I'm fading fast, at least you didn't get my genuine Rolex.. and the $5000 cash money in my back pocket.."

44 posted on 09/21/2009 12:43:52 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

I have carried a handgun since age 17 an am now 55. Thanks to the handgun in a few cases I made it thus far......


45 posted on 09/21/2009 12:51:40 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: libs_kma

The scum there in Cincy were what made me a dedicated FReeper, and really, really opened my eyes to just how lame the lamestream media really are/were. This was during the riots of April 2001, which were not well-reported at all by the national news, but which were well-covered here at FR. The aftermath was totally overshadowed by events a few months later on 9/11/2001.

But I remember.


46 posted on 09/21/2009 12:53:54 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
Police said the second suspect is between 18-20 years old, about 5 feet, 7 inches tall and wearing a tan hooded shirt.

Gee, no color mentioned. Wonder why?
47 posted on 09/21/2009 1:00:41 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Joe Brower
I've always found that when people have asked me "Why do you carry a gun?", "Because I can't carry a cop" is a good retort.

Now where have I seen that before?

pssssst.....look below

48 posted on 09/21/2009 1:04:39 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: thefactor

Bang, ping...


49 posted on 09/21/2009 1:05:13 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t think they described the policeman either; what does that mean? :-)


50 posted on 09/21/2009 1:06:51 PM PDT by BilLies
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