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Orlando near the bottom in magazine's rankings of places to raise kids
Sentinel ^ | Sep. 21, 2009 | Linda Shrieves

Posted on 09/21/2009 8:26:44 AM PDT by george76

Orlando, the vacation destination for millions of families worldwide, is getting a bit of a smackdown: Children's Health magazine, in an issue on newsstands Tuesday, has ranked the 100 best and worst cities to raise a family -- and Orlando finished almost last.

Burlington, Vt., came in first, while Orlando finished 98th, ranking just above Miami and last-place Detroit.

What doesn't Orlando have? Editors at the magazine dinged the City Beautiful for its relatively low per-pupil spending, high crime rates, low homeownership rate, high unemployment and the number of sex offenders and missing children per capita.

Burlington, by contrast, was near the top in public-school funding, graduation rates and the percentage of adults who have advanced degrees. The median family income is also relatively high. "Its population is also exceptionally healthy," said Stephen Perrine, the magazine's editor. "Burlington has the fewest fast-food restaurants per capita, so it's no surprise that the city has less obesity than anywhere else in the country."

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Michigan; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: burlington; cities; detroit; diversity; florida; miami; orlando; publicschools; schools; topten

1 posted on 09/21/2009 8:26:46 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Orlando has become a toilet.


2 posted on 09/21/2009 8:27:54 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: george76

Aside from the crime rate, I don’t see the problem here. Orlando isn’t high on my list of places to live or visit, but higher spending on public schools don’t translate into a better standard of living for me ... more likely the opposite, in fact.


3 posted on 09/21/2009 8:29:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("USAF fighters are the sound of freedom; children are the sound of the future of the Church.")
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To: george76

Burlington, VT? I wonder how many minorities live there? One? Racist liberals.


4 posted on 09/21/2009 8:29:13 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Frantzie

Burlington sounds like a place where they’ve driven out all but the rich and their 1.1 children per completed family. Is there a major university there?


5 posted on 09/21/2009 8:30:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("USAF fighters are the sound of freedom; children are the sound of the future of the Church.")
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To: george76

Why isn’t DIVERSITY one of their criteria?

They use the DIVERSITY argument only when it supports their desired results.


6 posted on 09/21/2009 8:32:22 AM PDT by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: george76

Barf alert!!!

1: Per-capita spendign has no correlation with quality of schools
2: What the hell does fast food joints have to do with how good a place is for raising kids. I suppose Childrens Health prefers if parents blow their bank account buying food at Michele’s organic bobo farmers market.
3: Burlington, VT has only a population of around 40,000. How can you compare what is essentially a small town with large cities.
4: Of course Burlington has a high per-capita income when the only major employer in town is a medical center.


7 posted on 09/21/2009 8:33:07 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Tax-chick

Orlando schools are horrible. We moved to a gated community out of the city in Sanford (connected) and my daughter was chosen to be BUSSED past the neighborhood school to some nasty school. Apparently there are only two counties in the US that still do this....Seminole County and another. Needless to say, I home schooled my kid until we got back to Texas and proper schools (at least in our district). Orlando was a nice place to live before school-aged kids. I talk to friends back there and they’re worried. Too many third-world illegals. Too many Haitians.


8 posted on 09/21/2009 8:33:56 AM PDT by DRey
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To: ryan71

Burlington: 93% white.


9 posted on 09/21/2009 8:33:57 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: george76

So the black/illegal populations of Orlando vs. Burlington?? Naturally, that would have NOTHING to do with the crime and graduation disparities. It’s those damned FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS causing all of the problems!!!


10 posted on 09/21/2009 8:35:21 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


11 posted on 09/21/2009 8:35:59 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Tax-chick

I am sure that U of VT is probably there. University towns in the USA and UK are huge state welfare sink holes.

Online educational uni’s and education is advancing to the point that universities may become dinosaurs. Universities are just professional sports teams and entertainment anymore.

I know someone who works for a major uni doing research that is very well known. Lots of med research. He said the grant and funding chase is a scam. He setting getting grants is job #1 and the research is probably job #10.


12 posted on 09/21/2009 8:38:17 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: george76

Orlando is a disgusting big hole.


13 posted on 09/21/2009 8:39:13 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: Frantzie

Bingo!!! U of VT is located in Burlington.


14 posted on 09/21/2009 8:40:29 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Frantzie

Demographics for Burlington, VT:

http://www.muninetguide.com/states/vermont/municipality/Burlington.php

White - 86.6%
Black - 3.4%
Latino - 4.3%
Asian - 1.9%
Other - 3.0%


15 posted on 09/21/2009 8:42:04 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Frantzie

Always has been.
Before the Rat came to town it was simply a cow town. Still has that attitude and though Orlando has become massive it still is a cow town surrounded by Palmettos.


16 posted on 09/21/2009 8:42:24 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84 (FUBO))
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To: george76
Method 1 of putting cities in quality order.

Step 1. Pick city/cities you like.

Step 2. Gather a bunch of statistics about each city. It doesn't matter what they are, but you will need a pile of figures.

Step 3. Run solver on Excel to figure out the weighting to put on each statistic needed to make your city the top of the ranking.

Step 4. Present the list to everyone and pretend that the method is scientific.

Method 2.

An alternative method is to force high values on the weighting of your favorite topics. The NRA ranking of best cities will place a high value on per capita gun ownership. The NEA will place a high value on per student spending. Since your top picks probably already have those qualities, it shouldn't have much effect on the order.

17 posted on 09/21/2009 8:45:52 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: C19fan

Yup - just like other marxist college hell holes like Boulder, CO or Madison, WS, etc etc.

I drove around Boulder once and it was very white. A few token minority hipsters.

Uni towns are welfare sink holes propped up by govt welfare and parents money sending their kids to school to learning about drinking and sex.


18 posted on 09/21/2009 8:49:55 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: panaxanax

My guess is they lie about the demographics and it is probably 95% white.


19 posted on 09/21/2009 8:51:11 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: DRey

Wake County, North Carolina is probably the second system you mention that busses children by income levels. There are four School Board positions that will be voted on in November and the race is all about bussing for diversity.


20 posted on 09/21/2009 8:51:56 AM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: Frantzie
relatively low per-pupil spending

They say this like it's a bad thing.

21 posted on 09/21/2009 8:52:20 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: george76

According to Wilkipedia, Burlington's population is 92 percent White, 2 percent Black, and 3 percent Asian.

Its cultural attractions include the Vermont Lake Monsters, an A rated minor league baseball team (affiliated with the Washington Nationals), and the Frost Heaves, a semi-pro basketball team.

Its sister cities include Elk, Poland; Yaroslavl, Russia; Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua; Bethlehem, Palestinian territories; and Moss Point, Mississipi. Notable residents include Howard Dean, Patrick Leahy, Bernie Sanders, and Ted Bundy.

IMHO, all this definitely qualifies Burlington as the best place in the U.S. to raise kids.

22 posted on 09/21/2009 8:54:10 AM PDT by Zakeet (We wouldn't need Jerry Lewis if we had ObamaCare)
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To: ryan71

absolutely correct.

Why isn’t DIVERSITY one of their criteria?

They use the DIVERSITY argument only when it supports their desired results


23 posted on 09/21/2009 8:55:09 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Frantzie

I’d have to agree. It’s not the Orlando I grew up in the 50’s.


24 posted on 09/21/2009 9:02:31 AM PDT by jslade (People that are easily offended OFFEND ME!)
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To: Joe Brower

I grew up in Orlando and still visit family there frequently. Many of Orlando’s problems today stem from massive illegal immigration and an influx from Puerto Rico. The result was higher crime rates, more poverty, over burdened roads and schools, and rising public spending.


25 posted on 09/21/2009 9:28:50 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
Disney's desire to recruit low-wage workers from PR, and the hotel chains' need for cheap labor from Central America and the Caribbean certainly had their consequences. Being located in an unattractive portion of the state (no beaches for 40 miles, awful weather), combined with an economy based on theme parks did nothing to help the situation either. The I-4 corridor hasn't developed into the high-tech, high-wage center that the state had hoped for either.

For all of the liberalism, the suburbs of NYC are still far superior places to raise children, if you have the money. If you don't want to go broke raising your kids, let me suggest the Dakotas, Indiana, etc.

26 posted on 09/21/2009 9:33:31 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Reagan69

Orlando is the anus of Florida. -— Clemenza, one-time resident of Boca Raton (1991-1994) and Miami (1999-2002).


27 posted on 09/21/2009 9:34:49 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza

Orlando’s really not so bad as long as your hold your nose while driving past.


28 posted on 09/21/2009 9:58:43 AM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: crymeariver

Bussing for diversity? It’s disgusting. There is a legitimate, non-racially-motivated reason for “urban flight.” And when people decide to fly, they should be allowed to take their kids with them. I think it WAS Wake Co., NC that was the other one. I couldn’t believe it. Sad, sad situation there. Hope you get a competent new school board!


29 posted on 09/21/2009 10:03:45 AM PDT by DRey
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To: Frantzie

I drove around Boulder once and it was very white.
_______

LOL. Perhaps a glance at the migration of blacks after the turn into the 20th century would provide you insight into why a city like Chicago would be a higher percentage black than your example of Boulder.


30 posted on 09/21/2009 10:03:55 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Rockingham
"Many of Orlando’s problems today stem from massive illegal immigration "

You take your life in your own hands on Colonial Drive now. We lived downtown on Alba for a while...until a homeless man walked up to my neighbors car (the neighbor and I were standing right there), got in the car, and drove away. My neighbor had been gardening beside his driveway and had the car radio (keys in ignition) on. Beautiful city, fun city, overrun with bums and Haitians faking car accidents for insurance fraud. It's unbelievable, and dangerous.
31 posted on 09/21/2009 10:08:37 AM PDT by DRey
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To: george76

Of course, this is the magazine that put Michelle Obama on its inaugural issue cover last month, so a grain of salt might be in order. Besides which, they rated Washington DC as “healthier” for kids than Manchester, NH (in my area). Um... yeah, sure...


32 posted on 09/21/2009 10:11:02 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: george76
Burlington, Vt. is run by the Marxists associated with the University of Vermont. The city controls Vermont politics, thanks to the university, and it is singularly responsible for why Vermont has become a leftist controlled welfare state. Without Burlington, Vermont could be a fairly conservative state.

Vermont, at least that I remember, redistributes the local taxes meant to fund schools as they see fit so no one area will have greater funding that the others. It's a mess. Burlington is a nice small city if you're just visiting. Living full time with the Marxist denizens and their never ending winter? No thanks.

33 posted on 09/21/2009 10:13:58 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: DRey

I was raised in College Park and know Alba Dr. well. Classy neighbohood. Expensive homes. I remember Bumpy Hughes (ex CEO of Hughes Supply) lived on Alba.


34 posted on 09/21/2009 10:14:50 AM PDT by jslade (People that are easily offended OFFEND ME!)
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To: DRey
neighbor had been gardening beside his driveway and had the car radio (keys in ignition) on.

Dumb in ANY city. I had a friend get his Camry stolen the same way a few months back.

Beautiful city

Respectfully disagree. Ass ugly swamp town with no coastline.

fun city

Compared to Barstow, yes. Compared to NYC or even Miami, no.

overrun with bums and Haitians

You forgot 'Ricans and their low IQ and gangbanging ways. I knew that sh-tholes like Kissimmee had become San Juan North/South Bronx south, but didn't know that Haitians had migrated north of Palm Beach County.

faking car accidents for insurance fraud.

This has been problem throughout Florida for some time, and the Haitians have raised it to an art form.

It's unbelievable, and dangerous.

Damn straight, which is why I will NEVER again live in the Sunshine State, even in retirement.

35 posted on 09/21/2009 10:15:16 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Zakeet

‘Frost heaves’ sounds like a combination of brain freeze and vomiting.


36 posted on 09/21/2009 10:21:15 AM PDT by Sloth (Ted Kennedy's brain tumor has killed more people than my gun.)
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To: Clemenza

In addition to hotels, the construction industry hungered for cheap labor from illegals. The Orlando area does have some quality and high tech employers, but their contribution to the local economy is over shadowed by low wage employers. There are many smaller outlying communities in central Florida are still relatively cheap and pleasant.


37 posted on 09/21/2009 10:21:58 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: DRey

That’s about the size of it. Several years ago, on a weekday afternoon, my brother beat off a carjacker in the parking lot of a Home Depot on east Colonial.


38 posted on 09/21/2009 10:28:18 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Sloth

‘Frost heaves’ sounds like a combination of brain freeze and vomiting.

I was forced to post the team logo because I was afraid nobody would believe me -- making this my new all time favorite sports franchise.

Incidentally, a "frost heave" is a slang term for a pothole caused by freezing water (see above).

You have to admit, the "Burlington Frost Heaves" as a certain more elegant sound to it than the "Burlington Potholes."

39 posted on 09/21/2009 10:48:50 AM PDT by Zakeet (We wouldn't need Jerry Lewis if we had ObamaCare)
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To: DRey

We were under a desegregation order in Nashville (might still be), so I got bused downtown to inner-city schools from the suburbs in the ‘80s.


40 posted on 09/21/2009 7:27:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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