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Earth approaching sunspot records
The Topeka Capitol-Journal Online ^ | updated 9-21-2009 | Corey Jones

Posted on 09/21/2009 4:03:07 AM PDT by grey_whiskers

The average person doesn't associate coolness with the sun.

The sun releases energy through deep nuclear fusion reactions in its core and has surface temperatures as hot as 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to NASA's Web site.

Not cool at all.

But the sun's recent activity, or lack thereof, may be linked to the pleasant summer temperatures the midwest has enjoyed this year, said Charlie Perry, a research hydrologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Lawrence.

The sun is at a low point of a deep solar minimum in which there are little to no sunspots on its surface.

(Excerpt) Read more at cjonline.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalcooling; globalwarming; solaractivity; solarweather; sunspots; usgs; weather
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This may be "a cloud the size of a man's hand."

Cheers!

1 posted on 09/21/2009 4:03:07 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: steelyourfaith; Smokin' Joe; rellimpank; Da Coyote
Like, *PING*, dudes.

Cheers!

2 posted on 09/21/2009 4:04:58 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 09/21/2009 4:05:04 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: grey_whiskers

Would hardly call it a *pleasant summer temperatures* when the furnace kept kicking on. In July.


4 posted on 09/21/2009 4:08:44 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: grey_whiskers

We’re all going to die! (sarcasm)


5 posted on 09/21/2009 4:09:13 AM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: grey_whiskers
...may...... be linked to the pleasant summer temperatures the midwest has enjoyed this year

The earth is going through it's normal cooling off cycle.
Gee! Could that have something to do with it?(sheesh)

6 posted on 09/21/2009 4:09:39 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: grey_whiskers
the pleasant summer temperatures the midwest has enjoyed this year

Pleasant my a$$. This summer sucked in the Midwest. Cold and rainy.
7 posted on 09/21/2009 4:11:51 AM PDT by MikeWUSAF (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: grey_whiskers
The sun releases energy through deep nuclear fusion reactions in its core and has surface temperatures as hot as 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit

Well, it's not the heat, it's the humidity.

8 posted on 09/21/2009 4:16:05 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: grey_whiskers
There is a sunspot forming on the far side of the sun which should become apparent on the Eastern limb of the sun after the 21st. This might herald the new cycle which is overdue.
9 posted on 09/21/2009 4:18:55 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: grey_whiskers; sionnsar; cogitator; xcamel; steelyourfaith

There is a single (potential) spot found by resonsce images on the BACK side of the sun that “might” still be visible as the sun rotates around.

It’s NOT a confirmed spot yet because we can’t see it - it’s only a magnetic discrepancy right now, but it will probably become a visible spot. One of the first visible since mid-February to the naked eye.


10 posted on 09/21/2009 4:22:48 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: MikeWUSAF

...and when tomatoes can be grown in open sun without some shade and protection, in the midwest, things are not quite normal. This area had the coldest wettest june on record, and a pretty cool august without a single 100 plus degree day, much less any nineties to speak of.

...and finally the GW nutcases have shut up, all except the government, who appear to be a day late to discover their error, but are not willing it seems to be a dollar short.


11 posted on 09/21/2009 4:26:24 AM PDT by wita
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To: quantim
Would hardly call it a *pleasant summer temperatures* when the furnace kept kicking on. In July.

If Chicago, Washington DC, New York City and Boston where to have one or more devastating cold winters with brutal temperatures and deep snow would it change the tone of the politicians?

I doubt it!

12 posted on 09/21/2009 4:27:13 AM PDT by TYVets (Let’s Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: grey_whiskers

God is in control.

America would do well to remember that.


13 posted on 09/21/2009 4:27:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (It's time to make the earlier protests look like tea parties - the kind with tea & crumpets.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Gad! I thought it was due to global warming.


14 posted on 09/21/2009 4:27:53 AM PDT by usslsm51
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To: grey_whiskers

The lack of sunspots is a result of man-caused global warming. I’m sure of it.


15 posted on 09/21/2009 4:28:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: alaskanfan
We’re all going to die!

Yeah...get ready for 400 years of global cooling

16 posted on 09/21/2009 4:34:31 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: grey_whiskers

I didn’t know the earth had sunspots [see article title]


17 posted on 09/21/2009 4:35:31 AM PDT by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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To: grey_whiskers
How silly! Only man can control the climate and weather. Once Cap & Trade passes, Obama can promise even more of these perfect Summers.
18 posted on 09/21/2009 4:36:03 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: wita

I hope we don’t have a nasty winter here in Southwest Ohio but it’s shaping up that way.


19 posted on 09/21/2009 4:37:49 AM PDT by MikeWUSAF (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: outofsalt
There is a sunspot forming on the far side of the sun which should become apparent on the Eastern limb of the sun after the 21st. This might herald the new cycle which is overdue.

yeah....but there was a paper in an astrophysics journal last month that analyzed the magnetic field from this sunspot....the author postulated that the sunspot was either a remnant of the 24th cycle or the 25 cycle was entierly skipped and was the start of the 26th cycle.

Each cycle has different magnetic field orientation.

in any case...

not good

20 posted on 09/21/2009 4:39:22 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Naked eye?

It has long amused me that in the Globull Warming discussion, the SUN was less important than the SUV.

21 posted on 09/21/2009 4:43:22 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Been collecting pitchforks for years - now I know why!)
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To: MikeWUSAF

What does the Farmer’s Almanac have to say? Last winter was no picnic here. If I hadn’t gotten a four wheeler and a snow blade, I’m not sure I would have survived the snow removal.

Western South Dakota is not really snow country. With barely fourteen inches of moisture a year.


22 posted on 09/21/2009 4:47:46 AM PDT by wita
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To: grey_whiskers
Looks like I picked the wrong time to become an amateur radio operator. In the year I have been a ham there has been about 2 sunspots. We need sunspots to make the best bands work well, I could be talking around the world, but no....
(The hobby is still quite fun, though. I can talk to Europe just fine at times, but not any further until we get them sunspots)
23 posted on 09/21/2009 4:47:56 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: grey_whiskers
Looks normal to me.
24 posted on 09/21/2009 4:48:39 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wita

Both call for a bad winter... Ugh!

Farmers’ Almanac predicts numbing cold this winter
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j65JFF104bfnVe6ytutLIxfPedRQD9AE1K700

Note:
The almanac’s forecast, however, is at odds with the National Weather Service, which is calling for warmer-than-normal temperatures across much of the country because of an El Nino system in the tropical Pacific Ocean, said Mike Halpert, deputy director of the NOAA Climate Prediction Center in Camp Springs, Md.


25 posted on 09/21/2009 4:50:23 AM PDT by MikeWUSAF (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: grey_whiskers

The best place for info on sunspots is listed below. Spaceweather.com is a distant second.

http://www.solarcycle24.com/


26 posted on 09/21/2009 4:50:32 AM PDT by JBR34
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To: GreenHornet

But it’s a ‘dry’ heat.


27 posted on 09/21/2009 4:55:07 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
It has long amused me that in the Globull Warming discussion, the SUN was less important than the SUV.

That is due to a class of humans who think the Earth's climate revolves around them.

28 posted on 09/21/2009 4:55:52 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: MikeWUSAF

because of an El Nino system in the tropical Pacific Ocean,
That is what is being talked about in this area. We can hope.


29 posted on 09/21/2009 4:56:45 AM PDT by wita
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To: MikeWUSAF
"Pleasant my a$$. This summer sucked in the Midwest. Cold and rainy.

Sucked in Florida too! Hot and rainy! :-)

30 posted on 09/21/2009 5:02:38 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: grey_whiskers
he believes data doesn't correlate well with solar activity, but does correlate well with rising CO2 levels

Even though it hasn't worked for the last 10 years or so.

31 posted on 09/21/2009 5:02:39 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: wolfcreek

It looks like a cycle due to the Sun, it acts like a cycle due to the Sun........


32 posted on 09/21/2009 5:03:12 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACRON is OBAMA)
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To: grey_whiskers

“The average person doesn’t associate coolness with the sun”

D’OH.

Much thanks to the junk science of manmade global warming being taught over the past decade.


33 posted on 09/21/2009 5:05:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: mosaicwolf

I didn’t get my boat out ONCE!

Saved me from the cost of winterizing it I guess...


34 posted on 09/21/2009 5:05:36 AM PDT by MikeWUSAF (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: wita
"nutcases have shut up"

Not my local lib rag, The Lacrosse (Wis), Tribune They had a frontpage story this morning headlined "Goodbye winter." The article reported on climate "experts" in Wisconsin who predicted much warmer temps. Of course there were no accompanying quotes from climate-warming dissenters. As usual. In fact, I'd say many warmists seem oblivious to all the dissent going on around them. And the evidence.

35 posted on 09/21/2009 5:05:42 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: wita
Acording to the latest Unisys water temps map, El Nino is breaking down. We now have a couple of spots of water located off the NorthWestern South American coast that are actually colder then normal (-0.355 C for one). The AGW proponents are gonna have to be dragged kicking and screaming to that realization.


36 posted on 09/21/2009 5:08:31 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: driftless2

warmists seem oblivious to all the dissent going on around them. And the evidence.

Probably right, I’ve just been hoodwinked by all the health care nonsense. One need only look at the business going on in the San Joaquin Valley to know it ain’t over.


37 posted on 09/21/2009 5:09:39 AM PDT by wita
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To: spokeshave
Probably more like 100,000 years of global cooling...

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38 posted on 09/21/2009 5:10:05 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: grey_whiskers

A pretty balanced article, but of course they throw in a Geologist who “studies atmospheric science” and is a Globull Warming adherent who refuses to let go of his pet theory (CO2) and then refers us to the IPCC and Wikipedia for unbiased information.


39 posted on 09/21/2009 5:18:30 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: bmwcyle

Yes, Sir.


40 posted on 09/21/2009 5:18:54 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Travis McGee
The lack of sunspots is a result of man-caused global warming. I’m sure of it.

SMILE! There are unexpected fluctuations on Mars as well. Boy, I had better lower my hot-water heater temp. before I am responsible for any damage to Uranus!

41 posted on 09/21/2009 5:23:08 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: outofsalt
"There is a sunspot forming on the far side of the sun which should become apparent on the Eastern limb of the sun after the 21st. This might herald the new cycle which is overdue."

One "potential" spot doth not the end of a solar minimum make........Check out the "List of all available daily images" (the website is down right now) and go back a few months - there are sunspots, but we are still in a minimum.

42 posted on 09/21/2009 5:25:14 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
One of the first visible since mid-February to the naked eye.

I hope they were wearing sunglasses.....

43 posted on 09/21/2009 5:27:47 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: grey_whiskers

Good grief. Even the sun doesn’t like Al Gore.


44 posted on 09/21/2009 5:34:00 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: MikeWUSAF

Well, Texas must have been under the only sunspot this year. Central Texas came close to breaking records with number of days over 100.


45 posted on 09/21/2009 5:37:08 AM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion)
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To: Hot Tabasco
“One of the first visible since mid-February to the naked eye.

I hope they were wearing sunglasses.....”

I tried looking at the sun to check out those spots and by golly I see them everywhere now even in a dark closet.

46 posted on 09/21/2009 5:44:10 AM PDT by toomanylaws
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To: outofsalt
One sunspot does not a cycle make. We went 60 days (5th longest period on record without one, then had 1 spot for a day or two, then went another 19 days without one before this baby makes it's appearance. Check out this graph to see just how many spotless days this cycle is having compared to the last cycle. Zero Sunspot Days by Month Comparison with last Cycle

It's too early to tell for sure but it's looking like this cycle could be comparable to some very severe minimums in the past...
47 posted on 09/21/2009 5:47:20 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: grey_whiskers

Wait a minute ... WAIT A MINUTE ... !!!

The sun has an effect on Earth temperatures ????????


48 posted on 09/21/2009 5:51:45 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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To: toomanylaws
I tried looking at the sun to check out those spots

Since you didn't have any sunglasses then you should have waited till night time.....

I remember years ago when the director of Poland's space program announced they were going to send a manned expedition to the sun.

When told that the space craft would likely burn up before it reached there, he replied that they have solved that problem. They were going to go at night......

49 posted on 09/21/2009 5:52:11 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: dartuser
Wait a minute ... WAIT A MINUTE ... !!!

The sun has an effect on Earth temperatures ????????

Who woulda thunk it?

It's Bush's fault.

50 posted on 09/21/2009 6:18:38 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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